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Why is call spoofing legal?
May 06, 2021, 02:31 PM
Flash-LBWhy is call spoofing legal?
quote:
Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
I haven't bought a car in five years and I get those extended warranty calls and texts.
I bought a new car 2 months ago and haven't gotten a single call regarding extended warranty.
OTOH, I gave them my landline number not my cell number and I only pick up if I recognize caller ID. Otherwise it goes to voice mail and most don't leave a message.
May 06, 2021, 03:01 PM
wcb6092See if your phone service supports nomorobo. It has cut down the spam calls a lot for us.
https://www.nomorobo.com/
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May 06, 2021, 03:16 PM
flashguyI only answer calls from numbers or names I recognize. I have VoiceMail but never check it. I've considered changing my VoiceMail message to "I have CallerID and only answer calls I recognize. I don't check VoiceMail. If you need to contact me, e-mail me at an address composed of my full name with middle initial AT yahoo.com. Use a Subject that describes the purpose."
My landline phone has begun identifying a lot of the unknown calls as "Potential Spam". I don't answer those, of course. I also don't answer "Not Available", "Unavailable", "Unknown", and several other identifiers. I get a lot of calls that only show a location, typically some obscure town in Texas. I don't answer those, either.
flashguy
Texan by choice, not accident of birth May 06, 2021, 03:30 PM
nhtagmemberI got one this morning so I hung on the line, pressed 1 and ‘Victoria’ answered.
So she asked what cars and I told her my Ferrari and my Lambo.
She said I was all set.

May 06, 2021, 04:54 PM
mjohnTell them you have a Hummer and you would like to get another one. Can you help me with that?
See how long the conversation lasts.

May 06, 2021, 06:52 PM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by Gibb:
if the caller ID doesn't match the area of origination, the call should be able to be identified as such and blocked by the end recipient.
That won't work. Cell phones are mobile. A totally legitimate call might originate, for example, with a West Virginia Caller ID, but the call might be placed from Idaho.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים May 06, 2021, 07:53 PM
shovelheadIf it is true that the U.S. communications providers get a small payout from the communications provider of the spammers why would they do anything to harm their revenue flow? That is what I have read, they are paid a small amount for every call that goes through their network.
If this is true, the Federal and State governments are not going to force the issue of enforcement either as they generate revenue from taxing the service provider.
Like was earlier said, follow the money.
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May 06, 2021, 09:22 PM
tsmccullquote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
My landline phone has begun identifying a lot of the unknown calls as "Potential Spam". I don't answer those, of course. I also don't answer "Not Available", "Unavailable", "Unknown", and several other identifiers. I get a lot of calls that only show a location, typically some obscure town in Texas. I don't answer those, either.
flashguy
We use a blocker from Digitone to eliminate those. In addition to numbers, it will also block specific names so “Potential Spam” and many of the others don’t even ring through. You can see the call show up on the Digitone unit’s CID display if you happen to be watching at just the right time, but that’s as far as it gets before the blocker disconnects.
May 07, 2021, 07:26 AM
henryazquote:
Originally posted by tsmccull:
quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
My landline phone has begun identifying a lot of the unknown calls as "Potential Spam". I don't answer those, of course. I also don't answer "Not Available", "Unavailable", "Unknown", and several other identifiers. I get a lot of calls that only show a location, typically some obscure town in Texas. I don't answer those, either.
flashguy
We use a blocker from Digitone to eliminate those.
When I used to have a land line, I used a Digitone blocker as well. One nice feature it had that I really liked was the ability to use wildcards in number blocking (# is the wildcard symbol for Digitone). If you wanted to block an entire area code e.g., 800-###-####, or an exchange, 928-231-####. The wildcard can be used at any position in the number(s) to be blocked.
If you are using an iPhone, turn on "Silence Unknown Callers". If the caller ID number is not in your Contacts, the call goes straight to voicemail and you never hear a ring. I use this, but I've also made sure just about anyone I want to talk to (friends, local businesses, Dr.'s offices, etc.) are in my Contacts. I have found that spammers never leave a voicemail, but legitimate callers will.
When in doubt, mumble May 07, 2021, 08:21 AM
bryan11quote:
Originally posted by shovelhead:
If it is true that the U.S. communications providers get a small payout from the communications provider of the spammers why would they do anything to harm their revenue flow? That is what I have read, they are paid a small amount for every call that goes through their network.
If this is true, the Federal and State governments are not going to force the issue of enforcement either as they generate revenue from taxing the service provider.
Like was earlier said, follow the money.
Bingo. From what I've seen the providers also make money selling info about their customers like Facebook, so they're seeing income from those sales, income from each spam call, and subscriptions from their customers. We've seen they make enough to spend significant lobby money to get votes to go the way they wish. Take a look at all the money given to telcos from the federal government for 'rural fiber' and then compare that to what they actually did with it.
May 07, 2021, 11:29 AM
Jupiterquote:
Originally posted by bryan11:
quote:
Originally posted by shovelhead:
If it is true that the U.S. communications providers get a small payout from the communications provider of the spammers why would they do anything to harm their revenue flow? That is what I have read, they are paid a small amount for every call that goes through their network.
If this is true, the Federal and State governments are not going to force the issue of enforcement either as they generate revenue from taxing the service provider.
Like was earlier said, follow the money.
Bingo. From what I've seen the providers also make money selling info about their customers like Facebook, so they're seeing income from those sales, income from each spam call, and subscriptions from their customers. We've seen they make enough to spend significant lobby money to get votes to go the way they wish. Take a look at all the money given to telcos from the federal government for 'rural fiber' and then compare that to what they actually did with it.
I'm sure a lot of 'rural fiber' money is used for other things.
We got lucky in our area. About 5 years ago, the only Internet I could get was 4G or HughesNet. Both options sucked. AT&T installed Fiber in our rural area using the Federal money. This was huge for me since I'm a full time Programmer. I'm now able to work out of my home. Our Local Power Utility is also getting into the Fiber Internet business. In a couple of months, I'll have 2 independent Fiber lines running past my home. Crazy turn of events.
Companies like at&t sell your data to these fucks, then turn around and try to get you to pay for services that will stop/limit the calls.

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May 07, 2021, 04:23 PM
VoshterkoffI wouldn’t shed a tear if China wiped India out.
May 07, 2021, 05:05 PM
rburgquote:
Originally posted by Voshterkoff:
I wouldn’t shed a tear if China wiped India out.
What if India retaliated and wiped a big chunk of China out? Where would we obtain cheap shit?
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May 07, 2021, 05:44 PM
VoshterkoffAs long as the spam calls stop I’ll be happy.
May 07, 2021, 06:41 PM
rscalzoquote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I got one this morning so I hung on the line, pressed 1 and ‘Victoria’ answered.
So she asked what cars and I told her my Ferrari and my Lambo.
She said I was all set.
Cracks me up that they have an option to be removed from their list....only to get another call the next week.
If I'm bored, I'll hang on to get a live person so I have play the audio of the "annoying telemarketer". They try to talk to it for a minute of so. I get to waste their time.