It is a game of chicken. But they actually may end up colliding.

It's not that the EU doesn't want a no deal Brexit, they don't want Brexit at all.

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
I think this basically guarantees a no deal Brexit. Boris (and the rest of parliament) isn't accepting the deal May worked out with the EU, and the EU isn't renegotiating.

If it looks like Boris will get Parliament approval for a no-deal Brexit, the EU will suddenly sweeten its offer to the UK. The EU doesn’t want a no-deal Brexit. The art of the deal. Mrs. May lacked that art.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
It is a game of chicken. But they actually may end up colliding.

It's not that the EU doesn't want a no deal Brexit, they don't want Brexit at all.

But they’re going to get Brexit whether they want it or not.

Hense the collision. If the UK leaves, the EU is determined to punish them for doing so.

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
It is a game of chicken. But they actually may end up colliding.

It's not that the EU doesn't want a no deal Brexit, they don't want Brexit at all.

But they’re going to get Brexit whether they want it or not.

LMAO!

Important clue to the new PM's way of doing things.

He only LOOKS like a buffoon.

Cleaning out all the Theresa May dead wood.

Boris Johnson: new PM takes his revenge and sacks over half the cabinet

Well, as we Yanks say here in the States- Fuckin'-A

Sounds like some people are finding out that elections have consequences.

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Hense the collision. If the UK leaves, the EU is determined to punish them for doing so.

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
It is a game of chicken. But they actually may end up colliding.

It's not that the EU doesn't want a no deal Brexit, they don't want Brexit at all.

But they’re going to get Brexit whether they want it or not.

The British are probably shaking in their boots right now. What do you think?

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Hense the collision. If the UK leaves, the EU is determined to punish them for doing so.

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
It is a game of chicken. But they actually may end up colliding.

It's not that the EU doesn't want a no deal Brexit, they don't want Brexit at all.

But they’re going to get Brexit whether they want it or not.

The British are probably shaking in their boots right now. What do you think?

It's not just the British who are involved in the BREXIT thing, Northern Ireland, the only part of the UK to have a border with another EU country, has its own problems with the border.

Where can I access the PM Questions sessions in Parliament? I think they used to be on CSPAN. I am only on basic cable plus access to Netflix, Prime. It is going to fun to watch that again.

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It's not just the British who are involved in the BREXIT thing, Northern Ireland, the only part of the UK to have a border with another EU country, has its own problems with the border.

tac, you served in and around the areas during The Troubles, what's your take, should there be concern in the border areas?
I recently listened to a podcast hearing from a former member of both Irish Rangers and US SOF, he served during The Troubles and he wasn't terribly optimistic that things would be 'uneventful' around the border.

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Originally posted by BGULL:
Where can I access the PM Questions sessions in Parliament? I think they used to be on CSPAN. I am only on basic cable plus access to Netflix, Prime. It is going to fun to watch that again.

right here
https://youtu.be/0UVlWdcgHrM

This whole BREXIT thing reminds me of George trying to break up with Maura.

Boris has Trump-like charisma.

“The roars created an ear-splitting cri de joie – the sort that probably erupted in Roman amphitheatres whenever a gladiator speared his opponent through the spleen with a javelin.

The House of Commons, over which such gloom has hung for the past three years that you could have mistaken it for the wretched Miss Havisham’s attic, finally blasted back to life.

Tory MPs thundered as Boris Johnson entered the chamber, plonking his great gorilla hulk down on the green benches with a thud. They exploded with exuberance when he spoke of his plans to make the United Kingdom ‘the greatest place on earth’.

Most of all, they raucously bellowed after he skewered ‘the sceptics and the doubters’ on Labour’s front bench…”

https://mol.im/a/7287229

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Originally posted by JoseyWales2:
Sounds like some people are finding out that elections have consequences.

Well there was no election, at least not in the sense of a popular vote. Tac can probably be more specific, but basically in the British system the leader of the strongest party in Parliament gets appointed as prime minister by the monarch pretty automatically. If the party changes leaders in an internal contest, so does the government. That's how Margaret Thatcher got replaced, and Theresa May got into and out of office without a general election on either end. I think it's even rather new that the Tories have their base decide between the final two candidates selected by their parliamentary group.

As for Boris Johnson, I'm stocking up on a half-year supply of popcorn.

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Originally posted by JoseyWales2:
Sounds like some people are finding out that elections have consequences.

Well there was no election, at least not in the sense of a popular vote. Tac can probably be more specific, but basically in the British system the leader of the strongest party in Parliament gets appointed as prime minister by the monarch pretty automatically. If the party changes leaders in an internal contest, so does the government. That's how Margaret Thatcher got replaced, and Theresa May got into and out of office without a general election on either end. I think it's even rather new that the Tories have their base decide between the final two candidates selected by their parliamentary group.

As for Boris Johnson, I'm stocking up on a half-year supply of popcorn.

I think you get the meaning of my post. We don't need to argue semantics. She was essentially given the boot or "voted out", and he was put in charge or "voted in".

The Tories were voted into power by the UK electorate, and Boris was voted into power by the Tory electorate.

It's actually a bit of a touchy subject within the frame of Brexit. The Leave camp has of course been arguing a lot with the alleged rule of unelected Brussels Eurocrats over the UK. The Remain camp has been pointing out acidly that the British general public didn't get a vote on the last two prime ministers who would take them out from under said rule - right after voting on those unelected Eurocrats one last time in the recent European elections.

In truth, both systems are quite similar, being based upon the principles of parliamentary democracy - and yeah, that includes the possibility to change the head of or even the complete government mid-term without a general election. Both are also imperfect in their own way, but then that's true to some degree for about any democratic system.

Come on, let's get to it. Enough talk.

"...and if you feel like I feel, baby, come on, oh, come on, woooh, let's get it oooon..."