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In the 2020 election, more than 1-in-5 voters who submitted ballots by mail say they did so fraudulently, a survey from Rasmussen Reports and the Heartland Institute reveals.

The survey asked those who voted by mail in the 2020 election if they filled out a ballot “in part or in full, on behalf of a friend or family member, such as a spouse or child?” to which 21 percent said they had done so.

Though many states allow voters to receive assistance while voting, the Heartland Institute notes, filling out ballots on behalf of another person is illegal across the United States.

In addition, 17 percent of mail-in voters in the 2020 election said they cast a ballot in a state where they were no longer a permanent resident — a violation of federal election law. Another 17 percent of mail-in voters said they signed a ballot on behalf of someone else, also a violation of election law.

“The results of this survey are nothing short of stunning,” Justin Haskins with the Heartland Institute said in a statement:

For the past three years, Americans have repeatedly been told that the 2020 election was the most secure in history. But if this poll’s findings are reflective of reality, the exact opposite is true. This conclusion isn’t based on conspiracy theories or suspect evidence, but rather from the responses made directly by the voters themselves. [Emphasis added]

Another 10 percent of all voters said they know someone who admitted to casting a mail-in ballot in a state where they are not a permanent resident and 11 percent said they know someone who admitted to signing a mail-in ballot on behalf of someone else in the 2020 election.

In the 2020 election, mail-in voting skyrocketed as states rushed to loosen election laws under the guise of the threat of the Chinese coronavirus pandemic. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 43 percent of all voters that year cast ballots by mail and 26 percent cast ballots before election day.

The survey questioned 1,085 likely U.S. voters and was conducted from Nov. 30 through Dec. 6, 2023. The margin of error is +/- three percentage points.

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...=breaking_news_email


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Shocking Roll Eyes

Those are only the ones who admitted to it. The reality is likely higher. Wonder which party benefitted from the fraud?

Besides military serving overseas, there should be no mail in ballots allowed.


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I’m sorry but believing a poll supposedly answered by people who are already liars is hard for me to accept the results.

“I know someone who did something” is most often bullshit.

Y’all can get upset if you want but this is the type of stuff that fuels ignorance. Ain’t no way those results are believable.

And let’s assume the numbers are right, because I’m sure there is SOME wrongdoing, but what percentage for each side. Are we saying only democratic voters broke the law?





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Besides military serving overseas, there should be no mail in ballots allowed.


I can think of a lot more useful applications. Just like firearm ownership, let the trustworthy non violators keep their right and punish the law breakers.





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Unfortunately it’s just the opposite. Give the law breaker a free pass and hammer those who haven’t done anything wrong
 
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And let’s assume the numbers are right, because I’m sure there is SOME wrongdoing, but what percentage for each side. Are we saying only democratic voters broke the law?



Doesn't matter which side did it, it's clear these elections were not secure.

One day, in person voting, with proper ID. It's the only option.


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The survey questioned 1,085 likely U.S. voters and was conducted from Nov. 30 through Dec. 6, 2023. The margin of error is +/- three percentage points.
There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Approx 65,000,000 mail-in votes were cast in 2020 POTUS election and we're supposed to blindly believe that 1,085 voters gives a margin of error of 3 percent. Zero discussion on how survey respondents were selected, zero mention of survey methodology (phone, web poll, e-mail, etc), zero comparison on how respondents compare to 2020 voter demographics, etc.

I clicked on the article's link to go to the Heartland Institute and none of the above is addressed there either. One thing I did learn is that only 30% of 1,085 survey respondents voted absentee or mail-in so the stats are even more suspect (i.e. actual sample size is ~325).

Don't get my wrong, I'm against mail-in ballot except in limited circumstances (e.g. military). I'm also extremely sick of sensationalism on both sides.

Did people do the illegal things described in survey - yes
Is the percentage or margin of error remotely accurate - unlikely
Is Breitbart publishing this unlikely to be accurate survey to generate clicks - yes



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Posts: 23816 | Location: Northern Suburbs of Houston | Registered: November 14, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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My sister is in a senior living facility and has serious cognitive issues. I manage everything for her - financial, medical, shopping for clothes, etc.

Someone registered her to vote. She handed me the ballot because she didn't know what it was or what to do with it. I shredded it, but surely very many residents had their ballots voted by whoever registered them.

I believe there was yuuuge mail in voting fraud. It was a design feature not a bug!
 
Posts: 9808 | Location: On the mountain off the grid | Registered: February 25, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Something to consider; these are the responses from honest, ignorant, or possibly both. These was fraud, and in much higher percentages than they are alluding to.




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These was fraud, and in much higher percentages than they are alluding to.

... and for pointing it out Trump should go to jail!
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How the Democrats can steal 2024
By M.B. Mathews

The majority of informed Americans believe that the election of 2020 was at the very least tampered with, and at most, stolen from Donald Trump. I agree with them.

After “mules” delivering contrived and phony ballots to drop boxes throughout the country, Joe Biden somehow became president.

After machine “malfunctions” and outright collapses, an unknown number of ballots, perhaps even hundreds of thousands, were either uncounted, or flipped from Republican to Democrat.

After votes cast by dead people appeared, somehow the election was lost for Trump and every American who voted for him.

After election site intimidation tactics, votes were prevented from being cast at all.

After officials declared an “emergency” at some polling places they were closed down, and voting stopped.

After cases of pre-filled ballots came out after closing time—perhaps millions?—and were run through counting machines more than once, Biden “won.”

After counters stopped the vote mid-count for several hours, Democrats “found” enough votes for Biden; the vote count took a sudden and statistically impossible jump in his favor.

And now, through the influx of more than 5 million illegal aliens since Biden seized the White House, Democrats hope to gain that many Democrat votes in exchange for giving the illegal migrants government goodies on our dime. Democrats hope to make all future elections Republican-proof through illegal immigration, which is why they refuse to close the border. It is only a matter of time before Democrats propose election rights for non-citizens across the board. In some places in the U.S., it has already happened. From there it is only a short hop to threatening freebie benefits if illegals don’t vote Democrat.

The fix is probably in, and we have just begun to imagine the new ways 2024 could be stolen. Everybody knows what is going on, yet I hear nothing from Republicans on what they plan to do to prevent this from happening. Again. Do they expect that Democrats will eschew their cheating ways and suddenly go legit for 2024? With these stakes, are you serious?

I can think of several new ways for Democrats to steal 2024, from “neighborhood canvassing” or ballot harvesting for votes, to linking voting access to loans and banking to voting habits, to tying one’s thermostat to voting habits. There is no end to creative Democrats’ desires to win in 2024, and no shortage of ways to get it done illegally. Their attitude, as always, is “better to ask forgiveness than permission” because they know how much harder it is to reverse an election than to jigger one.

Democrats rely on Republican reticence to take to the streets when they are wronged. For the most part, they judge rightly; Republicans, regretfully, are not known for their zeal for justice when kicked in the groin.

And so I ask Republican representatives on Capitol Hill, “What are you doing to prevent a repeat in 2024?” I ask the same questions of election boards and polling place officials. What cheating safeguards are in place?

Yoo-hoo, Republican activists and voters! What are you doing to prevent a repeat of 2020? And what do I hear back?

{{crickets}}

https://www.americanthinker.co..._can_steal_2024.html



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I think there was tremendous fraud due to this method of voting. While this survey may have faults, it shows more than enough fraud potential in elections where the winner is by low single digit margins. Five percent in a national election is considered a landslide victory.
Unfortunately many on the Republican side pointed to areas where any fraud was relatively small and difficult, like the machines themselves, and gave the Democrats talking points to claim it was the Republicans that were exaggerating.

Any election with tens of millions of votes cast will have some level of fraud. For decades we only allowed mail in ballots with enough safeguards to make this a tiny problem, and for good reason.
Early, in person voting, can be done with acceptable security so very few can claim a legitimate difficulty in voting. But the mail in voting that was done last time is where the real fraud occurred.


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The interesting point being people admitted they illegally handled an absentee ballot.

Outside of military and Americans living overseas, there is little reason absentee should be allowed period the simple fact is people cannot be trusted to do the right thing, and the opportunity to be fraudulent is huge.

Protecting the sanctity of legitimate voting outweighs the option to sit at home and mail a ballot in vs going to a polling station.

A little inconvenience is acceptable in order to eliminate the largest path to election fraud is worth every bit of attention.

Absentee ballots should be heavily policed, rarely granted, and require some form of picture ID, thumbprint, in fact perhaps a notary to sign that the voter was in fact the real person and not someone in a nursing home that collected 200 ballots from dementia patients.
 
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Cheat by mail and harvest cheating.

It was how Georgia almost became a commie shithole.


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Those 81,283,501 votes came from somewhere... Roll Eyes


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Cheat by mail and harvest cheating.

It was how Georgia almost became a commie shithole.


The litmus test happened in California. Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill AB 1921 (written by Lorena Gonzales) in 2016 that legalized ballot harvesting in CA. Prior to this bill, the only way a person can turn in another's absentee/mail-in ballot to a polling place was if he/she was a direct family member, and signed the ballot and showed ID. The new law enables any person to hand in any number of ballots, including election officials. In the 2018 midterms, the test became reality; Orange County, historically Republican country, turned blue for the first time in history. Every U.S. House seat went Democrat, unheard of until then. Most of the Assembly seats flipped blue, all of this happened days after election day. Democrats had a door to door campaign to offer to turn in absentee ballots for elderly voters. Reports of people handing in literally hundreds of ballots at a time, all legal. Hundreds of thousands of absentee ballots post election day were counted.

Orange County and San Diego County has been blue ever since. The DNC used this event as a blueprint for the 2020 and 2022 elections.



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I think there was tremendous fraud due to this method of voting. While this survey may have faults, it shows more than enough fraud potential in elections where the winner is by low single digit margins. Five percent in a national election is considered a landslide victory.
Unfortunately many on the Republican side pointed to areas where any fraud was relatively small and difficult, like the machines themselves, and gave the Democrats talking points to claim it was the Republicans that were exaggerating.


Agreed, and the Republicans did a terrible job of fighting the outright illegality of much mail-in voting and other shenanigans. Judges punted as did various officials supposedly watching out for rule-of-law process. Per the Constitution, only the state legislature may define the election process in that state. Yet in many important states they ushered in mail-in voting via decree by the Governor or an election official. Every single ballot submitted contrary to the previous law as written by the legislature was fraudulent. Illegal. Should not have been counted.

Even the Supreme Court punted on the issue.

The DC Swamp shamefully colluded with the mainstream media. The Republican Party truly failed the country.
 
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Lesson learned, may we never again allow a crisis to be unwasted.

I hope we smoke them in the '24 election.

I would crawl over broken glass to vote for Trump and a R majority in House and Senate.

I want paybacks!!
 
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"Chain of custody" is an important facor in assessing the validity of criminal evidence, shouldn't as rigorous a standard apply to elections? If you give a ballot to the USPS (or anyone) for delivery, how do you assure the chain of custody? You do not have to assume fraud by voters to question the worth of main-in balloting.
 
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My mother got a ballot for my father for the 2020 election. He’s been gone 25 years this past November.
 
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No idea about the validity of the poll, but Rasmussen isnt some random pollster either.
lets see.

1) Out of date voter rolls with no effort to make them accurate or even legal...
2) Mail a ballot to everyone on those voter rolls regardless if they asked for the ballot to be mailed or not...(9 or so states still do this)
3) For those states that do require a request for a mail/absentee ballot. many require almost no verification...
4) Don't validate the signature of the returned mail in ballot
5) Don't enforce/investigate any instances of someone dropping off 30 ballots from their apparently GIGANTIC family...
5) No fraud or insignificant fraud is the only plausible outcome to the above.

Turning ballots into confetti and dispersing them across the land...just doesn't seem to inspire confidence in elections
 
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