“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”
- Albert Einstein

She didn't get spanked consistently enough as a child.

Dumb bitch turned an $80 ticket into an $8K court/attorney fees bill. Plus her bond.

Lets see.....traffic infraction, resist/delay obstruct, felony flee and elude, assault on LEO......$25K Bond if she was in front of me.

As it was, she got what she deserved. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Regards 18DAI

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Originally posted by 229DAK:

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Originally posted by BlackAgnes:
I simply think that the situation could have been handled better by the officer.

And your solution to the situation is....?
We're all waiting.

After watching it again, there actually was a point where he could have de-escalated the situation.
When she said "Oh, just give me that and I'll sign it". And he said "We're beyond that now... "
He could have said "Now you're being reasonable. I thought I was going to have to take you to jail" and just let her sign the ticket.

He placed her under arrest at 0:33, and she finally said "I'll sign it" at 1:04. By this point, the $80 tail light fine had been overshadowed, and she was actively resisting arrest.

'De-escalation' was no longer a point. Or, was he supposed to ignore her resisting arrest and just let her go?

Is there a provision in the law that indicates I can ignore lawful orders "because I don't want to be arrested?"


...still waiting for a reasonable alternative option to the officer's actions...

Not to mention when you arrest someone (you say those magic words) you can’t just unarrest them and send them on their way. Once a person is in custody, they are the officers responsibility. If he let her go (unarrest) and she goes half mile down the road and runs into a water buffalo, the department will be sued because she was in custody and he let her go when she should have been in custody.

I must be low on IQ today...where/how did she assault the officer? Was it the verbal assault? Just askin'...

^^^ At 1:45 it looked like she kicked him (in the nerts) while she was on her back.

Some people just have to learn the hard way. Just because she is old does not give her the right to decide what laws she will or will not obey. Could you imagine the anarchy that would cause for us as a nation? She then exacerbated the problem by trying to take off. She got what she deserved, plain and simple.

Most of the issues in our society are because citizens do not respect authority. This is an example.

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
I must be low on IQ today...where/how did she assault the officer? Was it the verbal assault? Just askin'...

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Originally posted by vinnybass:
^^^ At 1:45 it looked like she kicked him (in the nerts) while she was on her back.

She flat out admits it here at 1:13. “Yeah, I tried to kick you cuz I’m a country gurrrl.” Same indignant bullshit attitude, sitting cuffed in the back seat of the cruiser.

https://youtu.be/XDbv0W6YUHo

We need the full, unedited bodycam footage. I swear, it’s like some folks weren’t paying attention when they watched it on their single viewing and missed, like, half of it somehow. This particular aspect was talked about on page one, also. Maybe read the thread?

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Originally posted by jljones:
Not to mention when you arrest someone (you say those magic words) you can’t just unarrest them and send them on their way. Once a person is in custody, they are the officers responsibility. If he let her go (unarrest) and she goes half mile down the road and runs into a water buffalo, the department will be sued because she was in custody and he let her go when she should have been in custody.

And, as I was led to understand it, if the officer said “those magic words” and then, when the detainee had a change of heart and signed the ticket and the officer doesn’t go through with the arrest, it could be used in court as an example of extortion and not only would the original charge be dropped but the officer could be charged with extorting the defendant.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
I must be low on IQ today...where/how did she assault the officer? Was it the verbal assault? Just askin'...

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Originally posted by vinnybass:
^^^ At 1:45 it looked like she kicked him (in the nerts) while she was on her back.

She flat out admits it here at 1:13. “Yeah, I tried to kick you cuz I’m a country gurrrl.” Same indignant bullshit attitude, sitting cuffed in the back seat of the cruiser.

https://youtu.be/XDbv0W6YUHo

We need the full, unedited bodycam footage. I swear, it’s like some folks weren’t paying attention when they watched it on their single viewing and missed, like, half of it somehow. This particular aspect was talked about on page one, also. Maybe read the thread?

C'mon man, I didn't miss it when I watched it. I pointed out the time for those who may have missed it. I also read it on the first page as I read through the entire thread as it developed. She earned every bit of her problem.

I was augmenting and affirming your statement, not challenging you, Vinny.

I guess I need to take a break, I’m not communicating effectively on this forum.

Here's an article with a photo of the pickup. Judge the taillight for yourself.

https://www.koco.com/article/c...CKW8GS5K7hReKQqZoaLo

That was funny. Wonder if she drives at night. Highly visible vehicle!

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
This particular aspect was talked about on page one, also. Maybe read the thread?

There was one...ONE...mention of kicking in the nutz and I didn't see it nor pick up on it in the video. Damn...guess I need to go on moderated status for 30 days.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
I guess I need to take a break, I’m not communicating effectively on this forum.

While you're at it, switch to decaf. Jeezus...I'm sorry to have caused such an egregious uproar in the Kingdom of SIGforum. 1st-world problems, eh? [/sarcasm] In all seriousness...I hope your day gets better, sir.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
I was augmenting and affirming your statement, not challenging you, Vinny.

I guess I need to take a break, I’m not communicating effectively on this forum.

No worries here friend. I'm wound a little tightly this week.

Judging by the pictures of the pickup, the old lady is an asshole.

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
There was one...ONE...mention of kicking in the nutz and I didn't see it nor pick up on it in the video. Damn...guess I need to go on moderated status for 30 days.

A quick search for "kick" yields a result on pages 1, 3, and 4 before this page. I guess it was pretty apparent to me in the first few viewings so I was honestly having a hard time understanding how so many of the comments to the videos on youtube and even some here managed to miss it, but it's her last act before he backs up and pulls the tazer out. I guess I was more focused on what she was doing than what he was doing.

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
While you're at it, switch to decaf. Jeezus...I'm sorry to have caused such an egregious uproar in the Kingdom of SIGforum. 1st-world problems, eh? [/sarcasm] In all seriousness...I hope your day gets better, sir.

Dude. I don't even caffeine. My day was fine until I apparently stepped on about a half dozen forum member's dicks between yesterday and now and I'm tempted to have some booze. Here, I'll apologize to you, too. My big boy pants are firmly belted in place. And I'll take your self-imposed 30 days before the mast for you. You have a good day, sir.

It's very hard to see in the video, so here's a screen grab. At 1:44 you can see her foot coming up. In the next couple frames actual contact is made just off screen, but you can tell where it was headed.


kick by kpkina, on Flickr

Too bad the officer didn't have the benefit of watching frame by frame video before deciding what to do. I'm always amused at the level of scrutiny applied after the fact. Society now requires perfection on demand and anything less is considered incompetent or illegal. No wonder police departments can't hire anyone these days.