She caused 100% of the situation to unfold the way it did that was of no concern to her obviously, since she was argumentative, refused to sign, refused instructions, fled the scene, fought with an officer, refused lawful orders to comply, hell she tried to refuse medical assistance.

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Originally posted by Chowser:
Hahahaha.

It’s no longer $80+tow.
There’s way more charges coming.

I don’t care how old you are, male, female, unidentifiable, child, the second you strike me, it’s on.

As it should be, authority should carry a great big wooden wack-a-fool stick at all times.

There's another video, additional footage, of her admitting trying to kick the officer.

This is just about as screwed up as the sovereign citizens videos.

Old saying: Never miss a good chance to shut up. And don't let your mouth write checks you can't cash.

Simple solution, fix your car if you know it’s broken. I get sick of people driving around with non working lights etc, especially at night. Check your equipment once in a while.

The next most simple thing is to sign the ticket and pay the lazy/stupid tax and then fix your car.

Next best solution, sign the ticket and fight it in court if you feel it’s that important.

Non of which involves getting tazed and arrested. You will not win or prove your point during a traffic stop. If it turns out the officer acted wrongly, then I support seeking dismissal or compensation.

She probably lives next door to some unfortunate SOB.

I hope the neighbors see the video.

Your signature on a traffic ticket is a promise to appear, a form of bond. Without it you are arrested in every jurisdiction I know.

It seems to me that requiring a person to sign a ticket is just asking for trouble. Many states don't do this and I never understood why some states do.
Had that requirement not existed, the officer could have given her the ticket and been on his way.
If she didn't appear in court, a bench warrant could be issued at that time.
The situation was escalated beyond what it should have been.
The bottom line as I see it was that an old lady was taken to the ground, tased, and arrested incident to a broken taillight.
Lotsa blame to go around here.

Well, she did take the taser better that most men. She didn’t freeze up or sound like Chewbacca.

Just take the ticket, shut up and maybe you can go on.




Link to original video: https://youtu.be/D85F4DSxZH4

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Lotsa blame to go around here.

No there is only one to blame, she made the decisions that led to the results, nobody else did that but herself.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:...Kick a cop in the nuts and bet your life there will be a response.

If I were a cop, you kick me in the nuts, I'm going to tase you in the taint, and hold the trigger till the Energizer Bunny dies.

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Originally posted by Riley:
Simple solution, fix your car if you know it’s broken. I get sick of people driving around with non working lights etc, especially at night. Check your equipment once in a while.

The next most simple thing is to sign the ticket and pay the lazy/stupid tax and then fix your car.

Next best solution, sign the ticket and fight it in court if you feel it’s that important.

Non of which involves getting tazed and arrested. You will not win or prove your point during a traffic stop. If it turns out the officer acted wrongly, then I support seeking dismissal or compensation.

Has that changed? Last time I got a fix it ticket, all I had to do was fix the light, flag down a cop (or go to a department) to sign it off and I was done. No cost to the ticket, just get it fixed. Of course, that was thirty some years ago, so that’s probably changed...

she wasn't arrested for the ticket

she was tased and arrested for fleeing and resisting arrest



good cop, good job

Cop: Do you hurt?

Lady: Yeah I hurt.

Cop: Where do you hurt.

Lady: Everywhere.


Proof that stupid hurts. It did make me chuckle though.

HRK-- I agree with you that it was her doing that led to the sanctions she now enjoys!

But are we sure that the officer had no other options here?

It seems these days "compliance" has in many cases replaced "protect and serve".

I kinda blame the state legislature for writing a law mandating that a person given a ticket must sign it. Why? New York and other states do not.

It put the officer in a tough position.

Remember also that a traffic violation is just that--a violation or civil offense--not a crime.
But not signing a ticket is a crime? Doesn't make sense to me.

Sure, he could have let her go, gave her a warning to fix the tail light or he'd ticket her next time. He could have seen it and just let it go without stopping her and avoided it altogether.

I don't disagree that legislatures could write the law differently, however, that is a different discussion.

The law didn't cause this, the officer writing a ticket didn't, legislature didn't cause this, she did.

All she had to do was sign it, go to the Autozone, buy a $2 bulb and probably one of the guys behind the counter would have put it in for free (if she acted nice) taken it to court and asked the judge if he'd toss the ticket as she repaired it...

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Originally posted by MNSIG:

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Originally posted by smschulz:
Yeah she was stupid but still a little over the top for the force.

I thought he actually handled her pretty gently when cuffing. The
TASER may have saved a more dangerous (for her) wrestling match.

My thoughts as well. I believe he delivered the best outcome with his actions. And, honestly, she needed the attitude adjustment.



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The mouthy old sow had it coming, and I laughed at her too. She’s probably gotten away with acting like that since she was a teenaged girl.

God help her husband.

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Originally posted by BlackAgnes:
It seems to me that requiring a person to sign a ticket is just asking for trouble. Many states don't do this and I never understood why some states do.
Had that requirement not existed, the officer could have given her the ticket and been on his way.
If she didn't appear in court, a bench warrant could be issued at that time.
The situation was escalated beyond what it should have been.
The bottom line as I see it was that an old lady was taken to the ground, tased, and arrested incident to a broken taillight.
Lotsa blame to go around here.

No fucking way. It is certainly true that you could have a system where you don't have to sign the ticket, but I have been asked to sign every ticket I ever got in several jurisdictions. And maybe they have learned that making people sign makes them more likely to show up. I don't know why some require signing the ticket, but it isn't important here.

But that doesn't really matter to me. She got arrested and eventually tasered for refusing the orders of the police, resisting arrest, fleeing, and hitting a cop. The seriousness of the underlying offense does not matter one little bit.

It is totally her fault, and I can't even entertain the idea that it is a bad rule in the first place.

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Originally posted by Fredward:
Your signature on a traffic ticket is a promise to appear, a form of bond. Without it you are arrested in every jurisdiction I know.

Unfortunately.....not in PA. We just write....."refused to sign"....and let them go.

On jurisdictions that require the driver to sign.....refusal to sign gets you placed under arrest and taken in front of a judge.

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Originally posted by TMats:
Don’t believe I ever heard that refusing to sign a ticket was an arrestable offense. Hmm

In OK, LE is required to offer you signed personal recognizance in lieu of a physical arrest. You sign a promise to appear or you get arrested for the traffic offense.