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Former independent counsel Ken Starr writes in his new memoir that he considered -- but ultimately abandoned -- the idea of perjury charges against then-first lady Hillary Clinton after her “preposterous” deposition with investigators in 1995.

“I was upset over Mrs. Clinton’s performance, and was even considering bringing the matter before the Washington grand jury for possible indictment on perjury,” Starr wrote in “Contempt: A Memoir of the Clinton Investigation,” which hits bookshelves Tuesday.

Fox News obtained an advance copy of the book. In it, Starr recounts a Jan. 22, 1995, deposition with both then-President Bill Clinton and the first lady about the suicide of White House adviser Vince Foster and other issues stemming from the Whitewater land deal investigation.

Recalling the president’s answers during that interview, Starr writes, “Clinton bobbed and weaved, but was always pleasant as he avoided answering.”

The first lady, though, was a different story.

“In the space of three hours, she claimed, by our count, over a hundred times that she ‘did not recall’ or ‘did not remember,’” Starr wrote. “This suggested outright mendacity. To be sure, human memory is notoriously fallible, but her strained performance struck us as preposterous.”

But Starr suggested he eventually decided against pursuing criminal charges against Hillary Clinton because it would have been hard to prove she lied.

“[P]roving that someone knowingly lied when they said ‘I don’t recall’ or ‘I don’t remember’ is extremely difficult, especially if that person is the First Lady,” he said. “What was clear was that Mrs. Clinton couldn’t be bothered to make it appear as if she were telling the truth.”

A spokesman for Hillary Clinton did not immediately return a request for comment.

“You have to be able to prove the case,” Starr went on to say in an interview Monday on “Tucker Carlson Tonight.” “There are clear differences between what a prosecutor knows and what a prosecutor can prove.”

“We just did not have the evidence to bring those charges,” he said.

Publishers are billing Starr’s book as the first time he has given his full and candid perspective on the investigation that dug into the Monica Lewinsky scandal and led to then-President Bill Clinton’s impeachment.

Starr, in the book’s introduction, says both Clintons “knowingly embarked on a continuing course of action that was contemptuous of our revered system of justice.”

In another part in the book, Starr wrote how, as solicitor general of the United States, he traveled to Little Rock in 1992 when Clinton was running for president. He recalls being picked up by a member of then-Gov. Clinton’s security detail, who told him “salacious story after salacious story about the governor’s notorious extracurricular escapades.”

“The trooper’s highly specific details suggested that the tales were not made up,” Starr wrote.

He added that the trooper told him about Hillary Clinton’s “salty language” when she “discovered a clandestine episode under way in the guest cottage of the governor’s mansion.”

“A former beauty pageant queen, the trooper told me, had been Bill Clinton’s guest,” Starr writes.

He added that “little did I know that in less than two years, after the governor became president, I would be tasked” with investigating Clinton. Similar allegations from Arkansas state troopers would later become public in the controversy known as "Troopergate."

At another point in the book, Starr said, “Vince Foster’s death haunted me,” as he recalled investigating the suicide of the longtime Clinton associate that spurred conspiracy theories.

“In many ways, I was a lot like him: serious about the law, conscientious, and loyal to a fault. Foster had been needled by the media, which I knew all too well could be brutal, especially for someone not used to the public eye,” Starr wrote of Foster.

Starr told Carlson that the death of Foster still resonates with him.

“I was haunted by … what did Vince Foster do, as the deputy counsel to the president? He took his own life,” Starr said. “We knew that he was depressed. We had very significant evidence that he was clinically depressed. Why was he clinically depressed? Complex question. But that’s why I was haunted. Why did this very successful, very bright lawyer take his own life within six months of the administration taking power? And that … haunts me to this day.”

At several points in the memoir, he referenced then-associate Brett Kavanaugh, the current Supreme Court nominee who once worked for Starr on the Clinton investigation. He writes of the report they produced on Foster’s death, saying it was “drafted primarily” by Kavanaugh, “a key member of our brain trust.”

He also refers to Kavanaugh as the “chief wordsmith” as his team drafted the so-called “Starr Report” detailing the findings of its investigation into Clinton.

Starr briefly cites Kavanaugh’s nomination to the high court, saying President Trump’s selection of the 53-year-old judge shows how presidents “want longevity in their Supreme Court nominees.”

Reflecting on his work, Starr said he “deeply" regrets that he “took on the Lewinsky phase of the investigation.”

“But at the same time, as I still see it twenty years later, there was no practical alternative to my doing so,” Starr writes.

Starr, a conservative, also recalls being passed over in 1990 by then-President George H.W. Bush for the Supreme Court seat that went to David Souter, a reliable liberal.

He says he believes he could have been eventually appointed to the Supreme Court by another Republican president “had I not taken on the Whitewater investigation, and especially the much-criticized Lewinsky inquiry.”

“Maybe,” Starr writes, “but we’ll never know.”

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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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And who is surprised?


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I may buy Starrs book just to see if he ever figured out how Vince Fosters blood ran uphill. Only homicide......sorry, suicide I am aware of where that occurred. Regards 18DAI


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A little late, wouldn't you say?


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Once again this harpy slipped through unscathed, untouched, and ready to spew more hate and deceit another day. Her place in Hell is reserved, so she is in no hurry.




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I recall a news account saying that a draft indictment had been prepared and is still sitting in a file someplace. Wouldn’t that have made good reading?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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My oh my, what a different world we'd live in today had she been convicted of perjury.

No Senator Clinton, no Secretary Clinton, no Presidential candidate Clinton.

Hmmm...it makes one think.


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My oh my, what a different world we'd live in today had she been convicted of perjury.

No Senator Clinton, no Secretary Clinton, no Presidential candidate Clinton.

Hmmm...it makes one think.


In normal times, to be even indicted would probably put the kibosh on national political aspirations. Alcee Hastings has been in Congress for 25 years, after being impeached and removed from office for taking a bribe while a US District Court judge. I guess that is the low water mark in these sordid affairs.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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If you want to really get steam coming out of your ears, here's a retrospective look from powerlineblog.com of Whitewater, the Rose Law Firm billing records disappearance, etc. You can see where Hillary learned it pays to lie and make incriminating records disappear:

Whitewater History


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Wow, Hillary is a lying sack of excrement? Did not know that! Big Grin


 
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"Explosive???" Navel-gazing, I would say. Starr didn't do what he didn't do and now he's being "explosive" about it?

Nothing about the Clintons is a surprise. What's a surprise is that Starr chose on the side of caution (his own) and that the country suffered as a result. I'll pass on this one, too.




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I recall a news account saying that a draft indictment had been prepared and is still sitting in a file fire someplace. Wouldn’t that have made good reading?


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I may buy Starrs book just to see if he ever figured out how Vince Fosters blood ran uphill. Only homicide......sorry, suicide I am aware of where that occurred. Regards 18DAI


That was back in the day when G. Gordon Liddy was on the air. I remember him going after that whole deal hard. There were a lot of details that didn't really add up.
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“Ken Starr purposefully left out the finding that Hillary Clinton had 'triggered' the suicide of President Clinton's Deputy White House Counsel in his final FBI report to spare her feelings, DailyMail.com can reveal.

FBI agents investigating the death of Vince Foster learned he was set off after Hillary attacked and humiliated him in front of other White House aides a week before he took his own life on July 20, 1993.

But for what were then unexplained reasons, Starr elected to conceal the FBI's finding that Hillary's tirade triggered Foster's suicide when he wrote his final report on the matter…

https://mol.im/a/6903755



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“Ken Starr purposefully left out the finding that Hillary Clinton had 'triggered' the suicide of President Clinton's Deputy White House Counsel in his final FBI report to spare her feeling


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Dont you love how years after the fact, it is revealed that charges were "considered but abandoned".
Bullshit.
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Starr is alive to write his books because he let HRC slide.


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Starr is alive to write his books because he let HRC slide.
Sorry, but that just doesn't ring true.

Vince Foster committing suicide because he was humiliated by that vile harpy makes perfect sense, but what you're saying is just fantasy.
 
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he didn't do the right thing when he had the chance, and look at the damage it has done to the country



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