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College student kicked out of class for telling professor there are only two genders

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March 12, 2018, 08:26 PM
wcb6092
College student kicked out of class for telling professor there are only two genders
"A religious studies major was barred from Christianity class at Indiana University of Pennsylvania for saying during class that there are only two genders."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018...nly-two-genders.html

A religious studies major was barred from Christianity class at Indiana University of Pennsylvania for saying during class that there are only two genders.

Lake Ingle, a senior at the university, said he was silenced and punished by IUP Professor Alison Downie for questioning her during a Feb. 28 “Christianity 481: Self, Sin, and Salvation” lecture.

After showing a 15-minute TED Talk by transgender ex-pastor Paula Stone Williams discussing the “reality” of “mansplaining,” “sexism from men,” and “male privilege,” the professor asked the women in the class to share their thoughts. When no women in the class said anything, Ingle spoke up, challenging the professor on biology and the gender wage gap.

He told the class that the official view of biologists is that there are only two genders.

The feminist professor booted him from class and asked him not to come back. She referred him to the public university’s Academic Integrity Board (AIB). Ingle needs to complete the class to graduate at the end of the semester.

“You are barred from attending this class in accordance with the Classroom Disruption policy,” IUP Provost Timothy Moerland told Ingle in a March 2 letter.



Ingle said what the professor did was unconstitutional.

“My professor is violating my First Amendment rights because of the fact that my views and ideology is different from hers,” Ingle told Fox News. “So she took it on herself to silence and embarrass me – bully me – for speaking up in class.”

Downie accused the conservative libertarian student of “disrespectful objection,” “refusal to stop talking out of turn,” “angry outbursts in response to being required to listen to a trans speaker discuss the reality of white male privilege and sexism,” and “disrespectful references to the validity of trans identity and experience.”

Ingle doesn’t see this as a transgender, women’s rights, or wage issue, but rather as free speech and an example of the constant misuse of intellectual power at universities.

“It is my firmest belief that every human being has the freedom and right to identify, dress, and represent oneself as they see fit,” Ingle said. “I think this is all an attempt to silence my views personally because they contradict the ones she pushes in class so evidently.”

Ingle objected to Downie’s “overall abuse” as a professor “indoctrinating” students because she won’t listen to the other side of a controversial argument.

“You can’t say that anecdotal evidence is fact,” Ingle said. “My professor pretty much just tried to shut me up because she was just letting women speak. I brought up the fact that biologists don’t agree that there’s more than two genders and I said the wage gap she’s referring to – 77 cents on the dollar – that even the New York Times debunked that.”

Downie and Ingle had an AIB hearing Friday, with a ruling set for March 19.

If the board rules against Ingle, he won’t graduate in May. Regardless, he plans on someday becoming a professor.

“When you see that kind of misuse of intellectual power, you want to be the person that comes back and does it responsibly and with morals,” Ingle said. “Instead of being the purveyor of your ideology, you can be an educator.”

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The university was unable to comment due to student education records, and Downie did not immediately respond to requests for comment.


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March 12, 2018, 08:35 PM
Hay2bale
There is a lot of confusion in this article, but I am most confused about the Indiana University being in Pennsylvania. I certainly hope there is a Pennsylvania University in Indiana, so as to balance out the universe.


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March 12, 2018, 08:36 PM
flesheatingvirus
I don’t think she knows what gender is. It seems like she meant that there are two SEXES.


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March 12, 2018, 08:48 PM
PKFan
quote:
Originally posted by flesheatingvirus:
I don’t think she knows what gender is. It seems like she meant that there are two SEXES.


Or at least that "she" is/has been two sexes.
March 12, 2018, 08:51 PM
Balzé Halzé
Good for that student for speaking up and sticking up for himself.


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March 12, 2018, 08:52 PM
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March 12, 2018, 08:57 PM
sig77
I presume that the ACLU will be supporting him and his right to voice opinions.....oh wait that would make too much sense.



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March 12, 2018, 09:14 PM
coachB
Just an FYI, Indiana Univ. of Pennsylvania is an NCAA Div II school located in Indiana County, PA. It has nothing to do with the state of IN. It is the 2nd largest school in the PA State System of Higher Education.
March 12, 2018, 09:20 PM
bionic218
quote:
“Instead of being the purveyor of your ideology, you can be an educator.”


Now there's a novel approach. Wink
March 12, 2018, 09:22 PM
Kuisis
There is an Indiana county in Pennsylvania, that is where it is.
March 12, 2018, 09:30 PM
tatortodd
Why on God's green earth is that being "taught" in a Christianity class? Shouldn't a Christianity class be teaching doctrine or {gasp}the Bible?
quote:
Originally posted by coachB:
Just an FYI, Indiana Univ. of Pennsylvania is an NCAA Div II school located in Indiana County, PA. It has nothing to do with the state of IN. It is the 2nd largest school in the PA State System of Higher Education.
Dang it! Now I can't in good conscience say anything classless and derogatory about IU. Frown



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March 12, 2018, 10:13 PM
patw
^^^This. I can't imagine this being a "real" Christian class. The professor is so off base with what should be taught in a Christian class and shows they are not. That letter in pink really states what will be the norm eventually.
March 12, 2018, 10:32 PM
oddball
quote:
IUP Professor Alison Downie

This commie looks vaguely familiar...





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March 12, 2018, 10:37 PM
nhtagmember
so how does she explain the idea behind Adam and Eve?



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March 12, 2018, 10:38 PM
Ripley
quote:
Originally posted by oddball:
quote:
IUP Professor Alison Downie

This commie looks vaguely familiar...



Yeah, I think it's because she's a type.




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March 12, 2018, 10:38 PM
YooperSigs
Not only did our man Lake get screwed over by these folks, he paid them to screw him.
That's getting your educational moneys worth!


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March 12, 2018, 10:43 PM
Voshterkoff
I'm getting real sick of this new age cultural marxism.
March 13, 2018, 12:08 AM
Rey HRH
quote:
Originally posted by Hay2bale:
There is a lot of confusion in this article,

starting with a transgender ex-pastor being a professor teaching a christianity class with a lecture on "Self, Sin, and Salvation."



"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
March 13, 2018, 12:40 AM
Rightwire
This sounds more like a professor that used her position at the university to push an agenda of feminism and LGTBQXYZ and get a bit of white male bashing in a class that was likely full of religious conservatives and simply wouldn't tolerate scientific fact being brought into the discussion.

Her barring him from class was no more than an exercise of her power and and attempt to wreck his future because he disagreed. The professor should be terminated unless she can show that “reality” of “mansplaining,” “sexism from men,” and “male privilege,” has a credible place in class that is supposed to focus on Christianity.




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March 13, 2018, 03:33 AM
mrbill345
She's a type alright.
From Alex Jones' Prison Planet(FWIW):
Meet Alison Downie

quote:
Speaking of the professor, she is quite the character. My team found some of her writings, and they are just as batshit as you might imagine. Here’s the abstract from a paper she wrote titled “A Spirituality of Openness: Christian Ecofeminist Perspectives and Interreligious Dialogue (full paper in link)”…
quote:
Feminists have critiqued assumptions and structures of inter-religious dialogue even as they have acknowledged the need for more feminist presence in this area. Because ecofeminist values span religious differences, exploring a spirituality evident across Christian ecofeminist authors makes a contribution to inter-religious feminist work. A spirituality of openness manifests in four prominent themes which recur across diverse Christian ecofeminist thinkers. Each of these themes arises from a foundational orientation to openness. Relational theories of self are grounded in the openness of fluid identity construction; a stress on personal narrative as a relational way of knowing depends upon the openness of experiencing subjects to each other; an ethic of risk and discernment emphasizes openness in the courage and responsibility required to act within ambiguity; and the openness of receptivity is a prerequisite for engaging the potentially transformative power of beauty.

What the hell in an "ecofeminist?"
quote:
Ecofeminism is a term that links feminism with ecology. Its advocates say that paternalistic/capitalistic society has led to a harmful split between nature and culture. Early ecofeminists propagated that the split can only be healed by the feminine instinct for nurture and holistic knowledge of nature’s processes. Modern ecofeminism, or feminist eco-criticism, eschews such essentialism and instead focuses more on intersectional questions, such as how the nature-culture split enables the oppression of female and nonhuman bodies. It is also an activist and academic movement that sees critical connections between the exploitation of nature and the domination over women both caused by men.

Oh, so calling yourself an ecofeminist means you’re a complete nutbag. I’m glad I learned about this particular strain of psychotic thought. You can read more here. You can also read some of the non-scholarly (lol, it’s a joke to call the trash above scholarly, but play along with me) work Alison Downie has done.
As you can see, she’s an unhinged, man-hating shrew. This post almost defies belief.
quote:
On this particular Sunday, I happened to drive past a non-denominational church in the small college town where I live. It rents space on the main street, in an old movie theater. On this day, a group of enthusiastic church goers gathered on the sidewalk, advertising the service about to begin with handmade posters. They appeared to be mostly young, and I imagined they were probably students at the university where I teach. I glanced their way, wondering if I would recognize a student from one of my classes.

Though I drove on in steely silence, I wanted to slam on the brakes, storm into that cluster of shiny happy young people and throw down a Molotov cocktail of sudden death, mental illness, tragedy, and suffering of all kinds into their church street party: “NO! I will NOT smile because it’s Sunday. And who are you to tell me I should? Who are you to imply that if I do not smile, I somehow don’t measure up to your understanding of what faith or salvation is?”
Rage boiled within me for miles and miles, churning over the shame these young people tossed around in an insular, and therefore, arrogant obliviousness.

This woman is entrusted to enrich young minds. Our country might be beyond redemption at this point. OK, I don’t really believe that, but with folks like this teaching kids, we have a lot of housecleaning to do.
More, from her batshit rant…
quote:
In a classroom, in my professional life, I’m perhaps hyper-vigilant in preventing potentially shaming exchanges. Student feedback tells me my Religious Studies classes are safe spaces. Yet I keep myself safe by operating only out of my intellect, employing analysis and critique in the third person.
In the classroom or while writing an article, I know how to keep myself safe. I patrol very clear boundaries. And over several decades, I have developed effective strategies for replenishing myself when shame overtakes me in situations beyond my power to orchestrate.
In that Sunday smile poster, all the smug, self-righteous, condemning religiosity which formed me in shame as I learned to talk, walk, and never break a rule, assaulted me once again, as Alison, not Dr. Downie. I wish I could imagine talking to that group without my professor-shield. Volunteering to walk right into shame, to walk right into a crowd pronouncing that I am religiously inadequate, has, so far, exceeded my abilities.
I hope that one day, perhaps even in the coming New Year, I will have the courage and strength to walk squarely into a poisonous cloud of shame, to risk being vulnerable, perhaps to teach more by how I live as Alison than how I structure classes as Dr. Downie.

I don’t know Alison, or Dr. Downie, but they both sound like complete headcases to me. How many psychotropic drugs do you imagine this woman is on? However many it is, perhaps the dosage needs to be altered. They clearly are not working.




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