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Shouldn't the title read Cadet found 10-42 (End of Watch)? And RIP...
 
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Geez, the poor young man had a baby face. I am feeling quite badly for his mother. Given his looks and heritage I wonder if he was bullied. I had been worried that he was in pursuit of a political or social figure.

Why??? There are HUGE numbers of minorities in the military, in even higher percentages than the general population! I seriously doubt 'racism' had anything to do with this situation.... Roll Eyes

RIP Cadet Frown


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Yeah I wouldn't read too much into it or feel compelled to have to know "why".
Given his age it would be about the most common point in life for signs for mental health issues to appear.
Amplified by the fact of the high pressure of being a cadet in a military academy.
 
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Did they recover the missing M4?



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College stress. High achieving students, and high expectations of themselves and consequences of not achieving those goals. A not uncommon event on campuses, probably more so with the superior academics at military academies.

Sad to hear this result. Godspeed young man.


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Shouldn't the title read Cadet found 10-42 (End of Watch)? And RIP...


The Army generally doesn't do it that way. Charlie Mike (continue the mission) is more our style. If the cadet bad been branched then there are more MOS specific ways to convey grief and mourning.


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So sorry to hear that his body was found. I was hoping for a different outcome.

We will probably never know why he took his own life.

I do know that the stress level at the service academies is very high.

Rest in peace young man, and condolences to his family and all others affected.


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Service Academies are high stress institutions.

Academically, Physically, Mentally, and Emotionally.

Everyone has a hard time at some point, but usually you just gut through it or some of your buds lend a hand (and you do likewise).

Even then we had a guy go AWOL like this cat - he was eventually found alive and booted out of the service.

It's sad but it happens. Too bad whatever was eating at this cadet pushed him this far.
 
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I wonder if he was bullied.


That statement struck me as very odd.

Being bullied is in the perception of the victim, but cadets at military academies are subject to high demands and expectations throughout their entire four years. The types of stressors and their intensity change over time as they move up in seniority, but by the time someone like this cadet reaches his/her junior (second class) year, they have already put up with more of what many people would consider bullying than the vast majority of Americans ever experience. It may not have been the petty, focused personal attacks experienced by a 15-year-old girl who’s not attractive or can’t afford the latest clothes, but it’s not something one can get away from by ignoring one’s Facebook account, either.

Then again, it is obviously possible for someone to be targeted specifically in an environment like that, especially if he is a poor performer in team events such as the military skills competition mentioned. That has been true of group activities everywhere since the dawn of humanity. But it’s also possible that any targeting and additional stress and demands originated elsewhere; the expression about Asian “tiger moms” is a cliché because of its truth. And of course high achievers of the sort who get accepted to military academies in the first place very often don’t have to be subjected to external demands to suffer great stress; they do it to themselves.




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Given his looks and heritage I wonder if he was bullied.
If you're young, you should try out for the Olympics. I haven't seen a leap like that in a long time.
 
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sad news - was hoping he would have turned up alive with a great story as to why he went AWOL



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I highly doubt he was bullied. You’re surrounded by people different than you. Even if so all he has to do is say something and it would stop immediately. They don’t tolerate that bs these days
 
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Not the ending to this story I was hoping for. Sure hope they find out what went wrong and what actually happened to the kid.


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Sad for everyone.

I would also be interested to know the location where he was found.

I'm sure there will be interviews with his classmates, professors and other academy personnel who may have had a connection with him to help determine his mental state.


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Originally posted by mr kablammo:
Given his looks and heritage I wonder if he was bullied.
If you're young, you should try out for the Olympics. I haven't seen a leap like that in a long time.


Nice!

Or developed a game akin to the one mentioned in Office Space except call this one "Leap of Conjecture"






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