A family member needs very low profile in home monitoring in own personal residence, nannycam sort of surveillance but unlike the camera-in-the-teddy-bear or alarm clock sort of thing needs a separate, private, hard wired system. How to find such a system or installer? This is a legit need with details that aren't appropriate for an open web forum, but I can share details offline. Renovations will be going on so there is time and access to make this work.

Respectfully, don't need posts about "if the situation/circumstances are that bad then get out". Believe me, I've already given that advice over and over.

Don't forget to check with a lawyer in that jurisdiction for legality issues.

I'm not familiar with the laws at all really, but phrases like "reasonable expectation of privacy" jump into my mind as a potential hazard.

The previous poster is correct. In many jurisdictions it can be a criminal offense if you don't follow the regarding consent for audio and/or video recording. Often it can be a felony offense.

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:
Don't forget to check with a lawyer in that jurisdiction for legality issues.

If I read the original post correctly, the person who wants to do the video monitoring wants to do it in his / her "own private residence." Are there really restrictions on this?

Yes, depending on the circumstances, even when recording in your home, you might be committing a crime.

Call Brickhouse Security they will have a solution

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:
Don't forget to check with a lawyer in that jurisdiction for legality issues.

If I read the original post correctly, the person who wants to do the video monitoring wants to do it in his / her "own private residence." Are there really restrictions on this?

Sure. If your wife has a reasonable expectation of privacy in a home she shares with you, getting video of her boning her boyfriend on the couch may be more harmful than useful in the divorce proceedings. I honestly don't know how the law plays out in the OP's state, nor even in my own state, so getting advice would be prudent.

Holy Thread Drift Batman!

Just to get more of an idea of what the OP wants...
Are you wanting to record to, say an SD card, and get the recordings later, or are you wanting live internet viewing? Do you want to record 24/7 or on image motion detection?

How high - Res do you need? Just bodies, like an old cell-phone camera, or high res to identify strangers?

Good advice, and being passed along. Certainly not looking to violate any laws.

OK, since it seems more complicated... here goes. A relationship exists without marriage, common law or otherwise at this time. History of (alcohol fueled) female on male violence - repeatedly, with (alcohol fueled) false allegations filed with law enforcement that has gone to judges repeatedly, and repeatedly dismissed ... to the point that the judge told them to not live together (but of course can't order this). Stubborn insistence on the nature and appearance of a nuclear family for the sake of small children involved. (Again, yes, I know, bad idea, not ever going to work, etc etc. I've advised so ad nauseum).

Retrievable evidence without real time view requirements to be able to document the instigator and nature of contact should it happen again (or should claims be fabricated) was the stated goal. Subject is aware that eventually cohabitation will result in common law status which could affect personal rights, property rights etc. However, in spite of this has just bought a home and plans to renovate then move both parties and the children into the new home...

At least subject is actually meeting with one attorney in person Monday and speaking with another on the phone as well.

You have mail with a local crew to contact presuming it is local.
While we may be a Commonwealth we don’t really have common law marriage status. While one may have to be formally evicted if they take up residence, property only becomes shared marital property upon actual legal marriage. Of course for civil court purposes on property disputes one would need to prove who purchased the items/property or else it is he said she said and the judge will shoot their best stick.

Might be smarter to have a cell phone nearby to record things as they go south. I can't imagine video taping someone in their home without their knowledge or consent is going to end well.

Optionally, having non-hidden cameras like a nest cam or Arlo would work to deter the bad behavior. The goal isn't to build a book of "gotcha" material-- that usually doesn't look good in court.

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:
The goal isn't to build a book of "gotcha" material-- that usually doesn't look good in court.

One can imagine: Court: "Let me see if the Court has this right: You maintained cohabitation knowing there would be abuse, against the Court's recommendation, and set up hidden monitoring to prove it when it inevitably happened, is that right?"

Yeah, that'll go well, I'm sure

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:
The goal isn't to build a book of "gotcha" material-- that usually doesn't look good in court.

One can imagine: Court: "Let me see if the Court has this right: You maintained cohabitation knowing there would be abuse, against the Court's recommendation, and set up hidden monitoring to prove it when it inevitably happened, is that right?"

Yeah, that'll go well, I'm sure

What could possibly go wrong?

It seems a mini-recorder or cell phone recorder app would be enough to get one started. The mini-recorder is on Amazon of course.

I could see it more as potential ‘protection’ if false allegations are made. As posted, there are larger issues to deal with besides electronic ‘proof’ of behavior.

Sounds like a lost cause to me... why spend thousands of dollars on a video/audio recording system to prove something that has already been documented and proved....

simple fact: "People are bat ass crazy"

Common-law marriage can still be contracted in Colorado, Iowa, Kansas, Montana, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and the District of Columbia.

I took this from Wikipedia, so I am not 100% sure it is right but based on my limited knowledge, it seems reasonable. I would consult the laws of the State he lives in. I would also note, that the states that allow Common-Law Marriages require both parties to "consent" to being married. If he never acts as if they are married, it would be difficult for that to actually happen.

I am not sure I would do the cameras in "secret". Let her know they are there and maybe she will behave and harmony will follow.

No charge for my $0.02. Good Luck

Great, helpful advice everyone. Thank you.