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Looking for the deep voices of experience here…the real SF scoop on best practice for replacement of a 22-year old Delta Monitor cartridge.

Have lost temperature control. Full cold physical knob location is ideal water temperature. Too much hot water coming in, evidently.

Have read Delta site, and a few YouTube. If you have further SF-quality guidance, please post here.

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Posts: 5344 | Location: Commonwealth of Virginia | Registered: January 15, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I have a rental on well water and I have to replace the cartridge in the shower there about every other year.

If you’re is like mine it’s not that big of a deal, but you may want to invest the $20 or so in the tool that pulls it out.

Turn water off, remove handle, remove retention clip, screw tool to cartridge, pull it out. Lube the new one, push it in by hand, and put everything back together. About 20 minutes total.


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Super easy, watch the video and you’ll be fine.



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I also recommend the cartridge puller tool. Sometimes they come out easily just using pliers; but when they won't budge, the tool does the job.


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Contact Delta. I had mine replaced for free on the Moem....


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Super easy,

Unless it's stuck in there. Hard water can make it very difficult to get them out, especially if it's been in there for 22 years. Get a good puller tool and hopefully it'll be easy, but be prepared to get pissed off. Wink


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Unless it's stuck in there. Hard water can make it very difficult to get them out, especially if it's been in there for 22 years. Get a good puller tool and hopefully it'll be easy, but be prepared to get pissed off.


This, I just replaced all my 20 year old Delta sink faucets because the cartridges were frozen & the plastic nuts just came apart. I soaked one in vinegar for 2 days & it did not help. The new Delta faucets are Chinese shit with plastic aerators that have to be removed & the calcium deposits cleaned out at least every year.


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Did this a few mos. ago and it turned into a nightmare. Both showers' cartridges were welded in there by 26 yrs of AZ hard water. Tool did nothing. I had to use a tap and fab up a bearing puller, but it didn't work. I got a pro to come out and, while I don't recall how he did it, he got it done. The first pro I called said they were going to have to cut the wall and replace the whole valves. Such a nightmare.
 
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You need no "special Tool" to remove a Delta cartridge.
Turn off water. Remove handle. Some have a nut under the temp cap. Use deep well socket or needle nose plyers.
There is a round brass nut that holds the cartridge in. Be careful turning it. I use large channel locks or a pipe wrench. If it does not want to turn, tap it with a hammer while you have pressure on it and it will break loose.
Take the cartridge out. It has a notch on it so it can only be put in one way. There is usually a mark on the hot side.


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I needed a special tool. Made in China strap wrench! The big one. Very carefully applied torque to the "hand tight" ring nut. Why in the world someone would design a ring nut without wrench flats! Oh, wait, it has to look good. Better to look good than to feel good, I think we were taught in the mid 80s.

The 22-year old cartridge was physically fractured...no wonder the water temperatures were all wrong. You pull this item straight out, and apply no torque to it. Repeated on-off cycles broke the cartridge.





Replacement cartridge purchased from a real plumbing supply house. It was labeled made in USA. I got to ride the BMW K1600GT to pick it up, since the truck transmission is bad.

Lots of deposits to clean.

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May have to check on mine, our shower in the master has the controls reversed, hot = cold & cold = hot.
Not sure if a cartridge swap can alleviate that, or I need to get to the actual water lines & reverse them.

If the latter, it'll stay as is & I'll learn to deal with it.




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Originally posted by MikeinNC:
Super easy

Unless it's stuck in there.


Or you forget to turn the water to the house off before pulling the cartridge. Big Grin

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May have to check on mine, our shower in the master has the controls reversed, hot = cold & cold = hot.
Not sure if a cartridge swap can alleviate that,


Some cartridges can only be installed one way (the right way), but not all. Similarly, many cartridges will have markings on the face to denote proper Hot and Cold alignment, but not all. So it's possible that it was simply improperly installed upside down.

Therefore, I'd start with pulling the cartridge, rotating it 180*, and reinstalling (if possible). If you can reinstall it in this alternate position, then reassemble it and test to see if you now have proper temperature control.

This is simple and free, so it's the first thing I'd rule out before you start looking at buying replacement cartridges or replumbing the shower.
 
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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
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Originally posted by Gustofer:
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Originally posted by MikeinNC:
Super easy

Unless it's stuck in there.


Or you forget to turn the water to the house off before pulling the cartridge. Big Grin

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
May have to check on mine, our shower in the master has the controls reversed, hot = cold & cold = hot.
Not sure if a cartridge swap can alleviate that,


Some cartridges can only be installed one way (the right way), but not all. Similarly, many cartridges will have markings on the face to denote proper Hot and Cold alignment, but not all. So it's possible that it was simply improperly installed upside down.

Therefore, I'd start with pulling the cartridge, rotating it 180*, and reinstalling (if possible). If you can reinstall it in this alternate position, then reassemble it and test to see if you now have proper temperature control.

This is simple and free, so it's the first thing I'd rule out before you start looking at buying replacement cartridges or replumbing the shower.


Thanks, I'll try that.
Add it to the many to-do list items at the new place.




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My series 1700 cartridge could only be put in one way. One notch, one lug. There are many cartridge designs, though.


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