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Which is proper: “Shop local” or “Shop locally”?

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December 11, 2020, 05:26 PM
trapper189
Which is proper: “Shop local” or “Shop locally”?
quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
I just assumed it was an expression coined by someone who was grammatically challenged. Smile

I was discussing the question with an English major friend, and it was interesting to me that “local” just seemed wrong to both of us without any conscious analysis. As I told her, English teachers did have some effect on some of us after all.


Well then, here's another one you could discuss with her: Just do it.
December 11, 2020, 07:48 PM
Oat_Action_Man
I suspect "shop local" is actually based on (or, more likely, improperly analogized from) "buy local" ("buy American", vel sim), which is more grammatically correct, since buy is a transitive verb and therefore local, in that phrase, is fine as a substantive adjective, rather than an adverb.

While the typical misuse of an adverb seems reasonable, I think the existence of a very similar phrase within the same domain (commerce) was the origin.


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December 11, 2020, 10:25 PM
darthfuster
If it is meant as an adverb, it is 'locally'.



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December 12, 2020, 09:02 AM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by Oat_Action_Man:
I think the existence of a very similar phrase within the same domain (commerce) was the origin.


I knew it was just a matter of posing the question on the forum to get an answer from a true authority. Smile




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December 12, 2020, 09:09 AM
NavyGuy
I think you could consider "local" as a noun. You know, person, place or thing, in which case Shop Local is perfectly acceptable.



Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves.

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December 12, 2020, 09:52 AM
Patrick-SP2022
quote:
vel sim


Well, I learned a new phrase today.




December 12, 2020, 10:40 AM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by NavyGuy:
I think you could consider "local" as a noun. You know, person, place or thing, in which case Shop Local is perfectly acceptable.

No. The word local is not a noun, it is an adjective.




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December 12, 2020, 02:17 PM
Fredward
The "ly"wouldn't fit on the bumper sticker.
December 12, 2020, 03:36 PM
flashguy
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
Apple didn't help anything with their grammatically challenged "Think Different" ad campaign.
Ungrammatical ads go way back: "Winston tastes good like a cigarette should" is an example ("like" should have been "as", for those not woke to the grammar).

I am also annoyed by ungrammatical ads, because they are remembered and people learn to emulate them, just spreading the disease.

flashguy




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December 12, 2020, 03:40 PM
flashguy
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
quote:
Originally posted by NavyGuy:
I think you could consider "local" as a noun. You know, person, place or thing, in which case Shop Local is perfectly acceptable.

No. The word local is not a noun, it is an adjective.
How about "My friend Joe is a local." "Local" is a noun there.

flashguy




Texan by choice, not accident of birth
December 12, 2020, 04:17 PM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
"Winston tastes good like a cigarette should" is an example ("like" should have been "as", for those not woke to the grammar).


Smile
I was thinking of that very ad and the controversy surrounding it when I was drafting this thread.

quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
"Local" is a noun there.


Although like some of the comments here have alluded to, in that usage “local” is understood to be short for “a local resident,” and in that full context it’s an adjective.




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To operate serious weapons in a serious manner.
December 12, 2020, 04:55 PM
Oat_Action_Man
^^ A "substantive adjective", e.g. "the Good, the Bad and the Ugly" or "Steal from the rich and give to the poor."

A common feature in most Indo-European languages.


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December 12, 2020, 05:42 PM
NavyGuy
quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
quote:
Originally posted by NavyGuy:
I think you could consider "local" as a noun. You know, person, place or thing, in which case Shop Local is perfectly acceptable.

No. The word local is not a noun, it is an adjective.
How about "My friend Joe is a local." "Local" is a noun there.

flashguy


I was suggesting "local" was a place, which still seems logical to me, but yeah, same as an
English Pub or a Union, as in the Plumber's local.



Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves.

-D.H. Lawrence
December 12, 2020, 06:42 PM
darthfuster
Shop bigly. Big Grin



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December 13, 2020, 06:33 AM
MagicHorse
I work for a small, family-owned business & when they 1st jumped on this bandwagon, we were expected to answer our phones with "Thank you for shopping local." I refused to do so & stayed with my usual professional wording as I found it irritating that they were not actually shopping with us yet. I get what the business was trying to do but it just seemed so awkward.