ATF proposing to ban/restrict pistol “braces.” Very short comment period: Please get involved.
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Originally posted by 12131:
Ok, I scanned through the actual ruling quickly, and maybe I missed it, but I did not see anywhere it mentioned the ruling applied nationwide. It just says "the Court...STAYS the Rule in its entirety". It would be great, if it truly does nationwide, but...
..yeah, I don't see it clearly as well, but it SEEMS that the the states represented by the 5th Circuit (Texas, Mississippi, Louisiana) are covered.
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November 08, 2023, 09:43 PM
nhracecraft
^^^At the end of the previous paragraph:
"But public safety concerns must be addressed in ways that are lawful. This Rule is not."
I read that to say that the judge finds that the rule itself is unlawful and hence the decision to 'STAY the Rule in its entirety'!
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November 08, 2023, 09:43 PM
arabiancowboy
Awesome update, thanks for posting. Good on those of you who have been relentlessly fighting the good fight for our rights in the court system.
November 08, 2023, 09:45 PM
12131
Tony, I get it. But, realize that this is just someone else's opinion. The guy even made the disclaimer to the effect of "Hey man, I'm just a messenger. Don't pin this on me. Those guys are the experts". And, even those experts opinion means very little, if at all. The only opinion that matters is what's written down by the ruling court. Didn't we already have this kind of go around earlier? Does the temporary injunction apply only to the plaintiffs and GOA members, or does apply nationwide?
Q
November 08, 2023, 09:53 PM
benny6
Well this just came out today, so I'm sure we'll get some more clarification tomorrow. Either way, good news and a step in the right direction!
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November 09, 2023, 06:17 PM
SigSentry
November 09, 2023, 08:52 PM
bettysnephew
With this rule being declared invalid, does that make all the newly minted "free" SBR's now owing a $200 fee or if the owner chooses not to pay do they revert back to pistol status? This could get interesting...
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November 09, 2023, 09:47 PM
gearhounds
^^^ Nope, they’ll stay free SBR’s is my guess. They did get partial registration though, if only a small percentage.
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November 09, 2023, 10:09 PM
nhracecraft
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Originally posted by bettysnephew: With this rule being declared invalid, does that make all the newly minted "free" SBR's now owing a $200 fee or if the owner chooses not to pay do they revert back to pistol status? This could get interesting...
The 'Rule' has not been declared invalid...The judge just issued a Nationwide Injunction preventing enforcement! The case actually hasn't been to court yet, so to speak.
If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 47....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die!
November 09, 2023, 10:16 PM
bettysnephew
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Originally posted by nhracecraft:
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Originally posted by bettysnephew: With this rule being declared invalid, does that make all the newly minted "free" SBR's now owing a $200 fee or if the owner chooses not to pay do they revert back to pistol status? This could get interesting...
The 'Rule' has not been declared invalid...The judge just issued a Nationwide Injunction preventing enforcement! The case actually hasn't been to court yet, so to speak.
Thank you, I am far from a lawyer so appreciate the clarification.
The “POLICE" Their job Is To Save Your Ass, Not Kiss It
The muzzle end of a .45 pretty much says "go away" in any language - Clint Smith
November 10, 2023, 05:32 AM
Blume9mm
Yippie! Now I can a full compliment of tools in my work vehicle:
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November 10, 2023, 06:48 AM
gearhounds
^^^ Imagine if every single gun owner regardless of whether they own a braced pistol or not started posting pics of them every day; the atf goons would lose their minds
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November 10, 2023, 09:39 AM
Ryanp225
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Originally posted by bettysnephew: With this rule being declared invalid, does that make all the newly minted "free" SBR's now owing a $200 fee or if the owner chooses not to pay do they revert back to pistol status? This could get interesting...
A lot of people were duped into getting on the lists and now can't take their firearm across state lines without asking daddy for permission.
November 10, 2023, 10:07 AM
monoblok
I thought the current brace rule was stayed because it's deemed illegal by this judge, and not merely issued an injunction against its enforcement.
-MG
November 10, 2023, 10:12 AM
Ryanp225
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Originally posted by gearhounds: ^^^ Imagine if every single gun owner regardless of whether they own a braced pistol or not started posting pics of them every day; the atf goons would lose their minds
