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^^^Perhaps the recent movie, "The Conclave," might give some insight into the process. I'm going to watch it.
It's probably a "someone accurate" portrayal of the process, but be ready for some woke. Wink

I think the next Conclave is going to be very interesting. On the one hand, Bergoglio has attempted to control it beyond the grave by getting rid of conservatives; but on the the other hand the Church seems to have begun thriving on his watch, probably because he worked so hard to try to dumb it down. The traditional Latin Mass is expanding, and evangelical Christians in the US have been converting...

Archbishop Vigano:

These heretical ravings are directly opposed to the Catholic Faith, which teaches us that there is a particular Judgment for everyone, which Bergoglio could not escape. His soul has therefore not disappeared, nor has it dissolved: he will have to account for the crimes he has committed, first of all having usurped the throne of Peter in order to destroy the Catholic Church and loose so many souls.

But if this non-pope and anti-pope can no longer harm the Mystical Body, his heirs still remain, the subversives whom he has invalidly created “cardinals” and who have long been organizing themselves to ensure a continuator of the synodal revolution and the destructuring of the Papacy. In support of them are also the conservative Cardinals and Bishops who have been careful not to question the legitimacy of Jorge Bergoglio. It is on these people that the greatest responsibility for the outcome of the next “conclave” falls.

https://x.com/CarloMVigano/sta...pope-francis-dead%2F




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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Myself and a buddy both said he didn't look too hot when they rolled him out yesterday.
 
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Methinks he's been stacking the cardinal deck in favor of his way of thinking.


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JD Vance met with the Pope yesterday. Somehow the liberal media (they don't believe in God anyway so I don't care what they think) will twist this to you know who's fault.

Sadly, this was my first thought upon hearing the news this morning. And, not missing a beat, the leftists are at it.

https://modernity.news/2025/04...nce-for-popes-death/

Well, because of TDS, he popped a blood vessel in his brain and croaked. So, the leftists are technically right. This might well be the first ever case of commie head exploding because of Trump.


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Myself and a buddy both said he didn't look too hot...

He is probably making up for that now.


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I normally avoid religion/politics mixtures, however, even remotely blaming Vance for the Pope’s death is a stretch beyond the pale!

TDS is currently an established psychological, no, a psychopathic, disorder. We can now add VDS to the lexicon.


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Methinks he's been stacking the cardinal deck in favor of his way of thinking.


I read this morning that 80% of the Cardinals that will appoint the next Pope were selected by him.


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Myself and a buddy both said he didn't look too hot...

He is probably making up for that now.


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Myself and a buddy both said he didn't look too hot...
He is probably making up for that now.



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...but on the the other hand the Church seems to have begun thriving on his watch,

Gotta disagree. Recent polls have shown that for every one person entering the Church, eight are leaving.

What he did do is push many people in the Church (myself included) in a more traditional/conservative direction (Latin Mass) due to his overt leftism, despite the fact that he forbade TLM. Traditional parishes are seeing numbers they haven't seen since the 60s (Vatican 2).

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You can't help but love the man. He pulls no punches.

About the nicest thing I can say about this is that I'll just pray, for the sake of Bergoglio's soul, that God is feeling generous today.


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JD Vance met with the Pope yesterday. Somehow the liberal media (they don't believe in God anyway so I don't care what they think) will twist this to you know who's fault.

Sadly, this was my first thought upon hearing the news this morning. And, not missing a beat, the leftists are at it.

https://modernity.news/2025/04...nce-for-popes-death/


The Dalai Lama quietly canceled an upcoming meeting with JD Vance, according to The Babylon Bee.


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A New Pope With Courage
By Frank Friday

It’s a sad ending for Pope Francis. I pray for his soul and trust the Lord has mercy on him, like all of us sinners.

I never expected much from his papacy and given he was elected with the support of the scandalous and homosexual St. Gallen Mafia in the first place, it might have been worse. Pope Francis was supposedly going to clean up the priest abuse scandals in the Church, but these were largely addressed 25 years ago, as victims started winning expensive lawsuits.

What remained were some of the worst offenders, who stuck around because they were in high places, and smart enough not to get involved with men under 18. The defrocked former cardinal, Theodore McCarrick, a St. Gallen ally, was a great example of this.

If anything, the Church went way overboard, paying just about anybody who claimed to be a victim and ruining the reputations of many innocent priests in the bargain. I have written in the past about the disgraceful situation in New Hampshire, where unscrupulous trial lawyers and their friends in law enforcement concocted a frame-up of Fr. Gordon McCrae.

The same thing was done more recently to Australian Cardinal George Pell, whom Pope Francis hired to clean up Vatican finances. Instead, enemies in Rome and Australia concocted a massive frame-up that sent him to jail for a while, before he was resoundingly vindicated upon appeal.

Interestingly, the same issue cropped up in Chicago last month. A massive plot by trial lawyers has been underway there for years to bilk the archdiocese with phony abuse claims. Cardinal Blasé J. Cupich, of all people, found the courage last month to finally stand up to these people, and has filed suit to recover some of these phony claims.

And courage really is the key here for the Catholic Church and Western Christianity in general. I always got the feeling Pope Francis just did not have the courage of his Christian convictions, the way somebody like St. John Paul the Great so obviously did. (As opposed to the head of the Church of England, who has no convictions whatsoever.)

As the papal conclave meets in the following weeks to find a successor, we can only hope someone with more Christian confidence, better attuned to the real challenges of today, is selected.

Unfortunately, two-thirds of the current College of Cardinals have been chosen by Pope Francis. They are a mostly unimpressive bunch. In the Catholic Church, traditionally, cardinals are promoted from the great archdioceses. But most of those men were not to Francis’ liking.

For example, Los Angeles Archbishop José Gomez has never made cardinal, though he leads the largest diocese in America. Instead, his very political subordinate, Bishop Robert McElroy of San Diego, was given the honor. McElroy was even sent to run the Washington, D.C. diocese, apparently just to tick off President Trump.

Same thing with Archbishop Charles Chaput in Philadelphia, a huge diocese that is considered an automatic for cardinal. But Chaput is one of the Church’s celebrated leaders, so Francis and his cronies were jealous and insecure about elevating him.

Same thing with my favorite prelate, the recently retired Archbishop Joseph Kurtz of Louisville. Though our town is not quite big enough to rate an automatic cardinal, Kurtz was a legendary builder of the faith everywhere he went and he led the fight for the religious freedom of the Little Sisters of the Poor against the Obama regime. In any other papacy, this would have made him a hero in Rome. Instead, it got him on Pope Francis’ enemies list.

So, what are the odds someone decent is chosen this time around? There may still be a chance. While the old guard, traditional cardinals like Raymond Burke don’t have the numbers to make a difference at this point, practical necessity may lead to a good choice anyway.

That’s why I am counting on New York’s Cardinal Timothy Dolan, a Pope Benedict appointee, to carry the day. Not that an American would be chosen, but I suspect Dolan, the effervescent Irishman and New York dealmaker, may be just the guy who can convince Francis’ cardinals they need to pick a moderate, consensus Pope. Somebody who is done with rocking the boat and ticking off traditional Catholics (i.e., all of us who actually show up on Sunday and contribute).

Most of the cardinals understand as well that the Vatican’s finances are a disaster. A Francis clone would only make this worse.

Even Pope Francis had to recently rein in his most problematic supporters, the German bishops, who are still pushing their 1960s-style gay-friendly agenda. Anyone who has paid the slightest attention in the last 30 years knows this kind of thinking has all but annihilated Mainline Protestantism.

Presumably, in the private sanctuary of the Sistine Chapel, Cardinal Dolan can remind his colleagues of these truths and offer a way forward. We don’t need a great Pope, but it sure would be nice just to have a good one.

https://www.americanthinker.co...pe_with_courage.html



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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“Pope Francis dies at 88 from stroke and heart failure.” The Pontiff’s mortal end came suddenly and unexpectedly. In one of several related New York Times stories, the Gray Lady said simply, “Francis’ death at 88 was shocking.” Just like that, the left’s favorite Pope was gone.

“At 7:35 this morning,” Cardinal Kevin Farrell announced, “the Bishop of Rome, Francis, returned to the house of the Father.” Only one day before —Easter Sunday— il Papa was riding around St. Peter’s Square in his Popemobile, blessing believers.

There’s a lot to say about this generation-defining story. We could, for instance, look at the lying media coverage. Corporate media reports seemed to deliberately miss the mark; they focused on “anguished” believers, when true Christian theology requires celebration at the conclusion of a long life’s work leading the flock. “Absent from the body,” Paul assured us, “together with the Lord.”

Or, we could consider the tectonic political implications. The Pope of Rome is one of the most influential unelected figures on Earth. This one wielded that immeasurable influence far beyond theology, to coordinate secular policies like globalism, technocracy, interfaith, immigration, climate change, and even individual medical choices. In life, Francis was personally involved in nearly every major world event, like the negotiations over Ukraine and the Middle East.

Will his successor double down on politics? Or will he pull back and promote spiritual development over secular worldliness?

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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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I read one of the leading candidates is…

Cardinal Pizzaballa.

I know nothing of him, but I think his name alone makes him a contender.

ETA: There are now cat memes on this...

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Well, we've had bad Popes before Francis ...

What This Congenital Catholic Thinks About Pope Francis and the Papacy
By Alicia Colon

Pope Francis, Bishop of Rome and head of the Roman Catholic Church, died Easter Monday morning, and his funeral was attended by thousands of mourners and a few faux Catholics like the Bidens and Nancy Pelosi.

Almost immediately after his death was announced, the media was swarmed with responses from Hollywood stars and other celebrities expressing their sympathy for the passing of this ‘beloved’ pontiff. Many other Catholics, conservative and fundamentalist, more likely silently thought, “Ding, Dong, the pope is dead.”

I, myself, do not believe that Pope Francis was an evil man, nor do I feel that he is suffering in Hell, as some of the nasty commentators posted on various blogs.

I believe he was a very compassionate man who cared deeply for the disenfranchised and those people who are considered unworthy sinners by judgmental critics. He has been quoted as saying, “Who am I to judge?” when confronted by reporters after advocating that gay and lesbian couples be allowed to have their own families, so he allowed priests to bless gay couples, and cleared the way for transgender Catholics to be baptized and even serve as godparents.

No wonder he is beloved by the progressive community.

Unfortunately, like so many liberals, the pope forgot that as the Vicar of Christ, he is required to judge and to remember what Jesus Christ said to the sinners he embraced, “Go, and sin no more.”

I do believe he was, like many Jesuits, incredibly naïve. His pronouncements on climate change, illegal immigration, and global economics were not any issues that we Catholics have to adhere to, but as long as he remained staunchly pro-life, he was my pope.

I have read several caustic comments about the “woke” pope, which claim that he has destroyed the Catholic Church. No pope can destroy the Church founded by Jesus Christ because it is safeguarded by the Holy Spirit. Just compare the late pope to the really bad and evil popes in the past and recognize that, as evil as they were, they never changed the dogma of faith and morals given to us by our Lord, Jesus Christ.

And boy, did we survive many bad popes. Pope John XII (955-964) allegedly murdered several people; Pope Benedict IX (1032-1044) was accused of selling the Papacy; Pope Urban VI (1378-1389) tortured cardinals who had conspired against him. But perhaps the worst one is Pope Sergius III (904-911), who reputedly ordered the murder of his two immediate predecessors, Leo V and Christopher, and allegedly fathered illegitimately a son who later became pope, John XI. His pontificate has been described as “dismal and disgraceful.”

It was inevitable that Pope Francis, who was the first pope from the Americas, would embrace his papal reign with the theology of liberalism. Liberation theology is a theological movement that emerged in the 1960s, particularly in Latin America, which emphasizes the Church's role in addressing social and political injustices, especially poverty and oppression. It is fundamentally anti-capitalistic and has as its root Marxist social analysis, particularly its critique of structural inequality and class oppression.

But the Catholic Church is adamantly anti-socialism and pro-capitalism. When Jesus Christ said, “the poor will always be with you,” He added that this is because sin is always there. It is up to each individual to care for the poor rather than to wait for Caesar, a.k.a. the government, to do it.

As the papal conclave is assembled to pick the next pope, many on the left are afraid that the next pontiff will be super-conservative. I am just hoping that our next pope will be a man who is a true vicar to guide the Church in His name.

As much as I may have disagreed with Pope Francis’s advocacy for change in the Church, he did once perform a very significant and positive action that magnified the most important tenet of the Church -- the Divine presence in the Eucharist.

In 1996, while still an archbishop in Buenos Aires, Argentina, Jorge Mario Bergoglio was shown a consecrated communion wafer that had begun to change into flesh. He immediately safeguarded the host and then sent it to New York to be thoroughly scientifically examined by experts without revealing that it actually was a communion wafer. The flesh was determined to be living heart tissue and had the same blood type as found in the many other eucharistic miracles, and also on the Shroud of Turin.

Why is it AB positive? Because this is the universal recipient blood type. Makes sense, right?

For more information on eucharistic miracles, you can access all at carloacutis.com. This site was created by a young British-Italian man, Carlo Acutis, who died at 15. He will be named the first Millennium saint (after the conclave picks the next pope) for using his coding skills to spread Christian teachings online.

Perhaps Pope Francis’s wisdom and belief in the Real Presence of Christ were why the Holy Spirit chose him as the next pope.

Thank you, Pope Francis, and may you rest in peace with God in Heaven.

https://www.americanthinker.co..._and_the_papacy.html



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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I think Pope John the 23rd did more than any pope in the last couple of centuries.Prior to being a Pope he sheltered Jews from the Nazis. He modernized the Catholic Church which was probably his greatest accomoplishment. People really liked the guy.
 
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I will watch how this progresses. The new Pope needs to correct the course of the church. I miss the days of my youth and John Paul. I pray that the Cardinals do the right thing and elect a vicar that will honor the roots of the faith and stop embracing the liberal mindset that honors the deviant.





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