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^^^Perhaps the recent movie, "The Conclave," might give some insight into the process. I'm going to watch it.
It's probably a "someone accurate" portrayal of the process, but be ready for some woke. Wink

I think the next Conclave is going to be very interesting. On the one hand, Bergoglio has attempted to control it beyond the grave by getting rid of conservatives; but on the the other hand the Church seems to have begun thriving on his watch, probably because he worked so hard to try to dumb it down. The traditional Latin Mass is expanding, and evangelical Christians in the US have been converting...

Archbishop Vigano:

These heretical ravings are directly opposed to the Catholic Faith, which teaches us that there is a particular Judgment for everyone, which Bergoglio could not escape. His soul has therefore not disappeared, nor has it dissolved: he will have to account for the crimes he has committed, first of all having usurped the throne of Peter in order to destroy the Catholic Church and loose so many souls.

But if this non-pope and anti-pope can no longer harm the Mystical Body, his heirs still remain, the subversives whom he has invalidly created “cardinals” and who have long been organizing themselves to ensure a continuator of the synodal revolution and the destructuring of the Papacy. In support of them are also the conservative Cardinals and Bishops who have been careful not to question the legitimacy of Jorge Bergoglio. It is on these people that the greatest responsibility for the outcome of the next “conclave” falls.

https://x.com/CarloMVigano/sta...pope-francis-dead%2F




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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Myself and a buddy both said he didn't look too hot when they rolled him out yesterday.
 
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Methinks he's been stacking the cardinal deck in favor of his way of thinking.


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JD Vance met with the Pope yesterday. Somehow the liberal media (they don't believe in God anyway so I don't care what they think) will twist this to you know who's fault.

Sadly, this was my first thought upon hearing the news this morning. And, not missing a beat, the leftists are at it.

https://modernity.news/2025/04...nce-for-popes-death/

Well, because of TDS, he popped a blood vessel in his brain and croaked. So, the leftists are technically right. This might well be the first ever case of commie head exploding because of Trump.


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Myself and a buddy both said he didn't look too hot...

He is probably making up for that now.


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I normally avoid religion/politics mixtures, however, even remotely blaming Vance for the Pope’s death is a stretch beyond the pale!

TDS is currently an established psychological, no, a psychopathic, disorder. We can now add VDS to the lexicon.


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Methinks he's been stacking the cardinal deck in favor of his way of thinking.


I read this morning that 80% of the Cardinals that will appoint the next Pope were selected by him.


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Myself and a buddy both said he didn't look too hot...

He is probably making up for that now.


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Myself and a buddy both said he didn't look too hot...
He is probably making up for that now.



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...but on the the other hand the Church seems to have begun thriving on his watch,

Gotta disagree. Recent polls have shown that for every one person entering the Church, eight are leaving.

What he did do is push many people in the Church (myself included) in a more traditional/conservative direction (Latin Mass) due to his overt leftism, despite the fact that he forbade TLM. Traditional parishes are seeing numbers they haven't seen since the 60s (Vatican 2).

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Archbishop Vigano:

You can't help but love the man. He pulls no punches.

About the nicest thing I can say about this is that I'll just pray, for the sake of Bergoglio's soul, that God is feeling generous today.


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JD Vance met with the Pope yesterday. Somehow the liberal media (they don't believe in God anyway so I don't care what they think) will twist this to you know who's fault.

Sadly, this was my first thought upon hearing the news this morning. And, not missing a beat, the leftists are at it.

https://modernity.news/2025/04...nce-for-popes-death/


The Dalai Lama quietly canceled an upcoming meeting with JD Vance, according to The Babylon Bee.


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A New Pope With Courage
By Frank Friday

It’s a sad ending for Pope Francis. I pray for his soul and trust the Lord has mercy on him, like all of us sinners.

I never expected much from his papacy and given he was elected with the support of the scandalous and homosexual St. Gallen Mafia in the first place, it might have been worse. Pope Francis was supposedly going to clean up the priest abuse scandals in the Church, but these were largely addressed 25 years ago, as victims started winning expensive lawsuits.

What remained were some of the worst offenders, who stuck around because they were in high places, and smart enough not to get involved with men under 18. The defrocked former cardinal, Theodore McCarrick, a St. Gallen ally, was a great example of this.

If anything, the Church went way overboard, paying just about anybody who claimed to be a victim and ruining the reputations of many innocent priests in the bargain. I have written in the past about the disgraceful situation in New Hampshire, where unscrupulous trial lawyers and their friends in law enforcement concocted a frame-up of Fr. Gordon McCrae.

The same thing was done more recently to Australian Cardinal George Pell, whom Pope Francis hired to clean up Vatican finances. Instead, enemies in Rome and Australia concocted a massive frame-up that sent him to jail for a while, before he was resoundingly vindicated upon appeal.

Interestingly, the same issue cropped up in Chicago last month. A massive plot by trial lawyers has been underway there for years to bilk the archdiocese with phony abuse claims. Cardinal Blasé J. Cupich, of all people, found the courage last month to finally stand up to these people, and has filed suit to recover some of these phony claims.

And courage really is the key here for the Catholic Church and Western Christianity in general. I always got the feeling Pope Francis just did not have the courage of his Christian convictions, the way somebody like St. John Paul the Great so obviously did. (As opposed to the head of the Church of England, who has no convictions whatsoever.)

As the papal conclave meets in the following weeks to find a successor, we can only hope someone with more Christian confidence, better attuned to the real challenges of today, is selected.

Unfortunately, two-thirds of the current College of Cardinals have been chosen by Pope Francis. They are a mostly unimpressive bunch. In the Catholic Church, traditionally, cardinals are promoted from the great archdioceses. But most of those men were not to Francis’ liking.

For example, Los Angeles Archbishop José Gomez has never made cardinal, though he leads the largest diocese in America. Instead, his very political subordinate, Bishop Robert McElroy of San Diego, was given the honor. McElroy was even sent to run the Washington, D.C. diocese, apparently just to tick off President Trump.

Same thing with Archbishop Charles Chaput in Philadelphia, a huge diocese that is considered an automatic for cardinal. But Chaput is one of the Church’s celebrated leaders, so Francis and his cronies were jealous and insecure about elevating him.

Same thing with my favorite prelate, the recently retired Archbishop Joseph Kurtz of Louisville. Though our town is not quite big enough to rate an automatic cardinal, Kurtz was a legendary builder of the faith everywhere he went and he led the fight for the religious freedom of the Little Sisters of the Poor against the Obama regime. In any other papacy, this would have made him a hero in Rome. Instead, it got him on Pope Francis’ enemies list.

So, what are the odds someone decent is chosen this time around? There may still be a chance. While the old guard, traditional cardinals like Raymond Burke don’t have the numbers to make a difference at this point, practical necessity may lead to a good choice anyway.

That’s why I am counting on New York’s Cardinal Timothy Dolan, a Pope Benedict appointee, to carry the day. Not that an American would be chosen, but I suspect Dolan, the effervescent Irishman and New York dealmaker, may be just the guy who can convince Francis’ cardinals they need to pick a moderate, consensus Pope. Somebody who is done with rocking the boat and ticking off traditional Catholics (i.e., all of us who actually show up on Sunday and contribute).

Most of the cardinals understand as well that the Vatican’s finances are a disaster. A Francis clone would only make this worse.

Even Pope Francis had to recently rein in his most problematic supporters, the German bishops, who are still pushing their 1960s-style gay-friendly agenda. Anyone who has paid the slightest attention in the last 30 years knows this kind of thinking has all but annihilated Mainline Protestantism.

Presumably, in the private sanctuary of the Sistine Chapel, Cardinal Dolan can remind his colleagues of these truths and offer a way forward. We don’t need a great Pope, but it sure would be nice just to have a good one.

https://www.americanthinker.co...pe_with_courage.html



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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“Pope Francis dies at 88 from stroke and heart failure.” The Pontiff’s mortal end came suddenly and unexpectedly. In one of several related New York Times stories, the Gray Lady said simply, “Francis’ death at 88 was shocking.” Just like that, the left’s favorite Pope was gone.

“At 7:35 this morning,” Cardinal Kevin Farrell announced, “the Bishop of Rome, Francis, returned to the house of the Father.” Only one day before —Easter Sunday— il Papa was riding around St. Peter’s Square in his Popemobile, blessing believers.

There’s a lot to say about this generation-defining story. We could, for instance, look at the lying media coverage. Corporate media reports seemed to deliberately miss the mark; they focused on “anguished” believers, when true Christian theology requires celebration at the conclusion of a long life’s work leading the flock. “Absent from the body,” Paul assured us, “together with the Lord.”

Or, we could consider the tectonic political implications. The Pope of Rome is one of the most influential unelected figures on Earth. This one wielded that immeasurable influence far beyond theology, to coordinate secular policies like globalism, technocracy, interfaith, immigration, climate change, and even individual medical choices. In life, Francis was personally involved in nearly every major world event, like the negotiations over Ukraine and the Middle East.

Will his successor double down on politics? Or will he pull back and promote spiritual development over secular worldliness?

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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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