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January 15, 2024, 10:28 PM
1s1k
If you don’t have a house with charging capabilities you really have no business buying an EV, especially if you live in a cold climate. People are just not very bright.
January 15, 2024, 10:30 PM
SevenPlusOne
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People are just not very bright.
That's because their batteries are low, duh.
"Ninja kick the damn rabbit"
January 16, 2024, 05:21 AM
jcsabolt2
This is called REALITY in the REAL world, no Unicorns Farting Rainbows here.
Meanwhile, I'll head out this morning in my 6.6L Turbo Diesel and spread some love.
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January 16, 2024, 07:02 AM
erj_pilot
Thermal runaway in 3-2-1……
"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
January 16, 2024, 07:13 AM
gearhounds
It’s extremely predictable and I recall several here commenting on this exact point months ago. EV’s are an unrealistic pipe dream for the average person, especially now when affording one is harder than ever.
Can’t charge efficiently? Burst into toxic smoke bombs? Takes hours to become usable after power drain?
No thanks.
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January 16, 2024, 07:14 AM
myrottiety
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Originally posted by 1s1k: If you don’t have a house with charging capabilities you really have no business buying an EV, especially if you live in a cold climate. People are just not very bright.
Really this. OR you're to big of an idiot to not find somewhere to top it off when you're down to 50 miles of range or so left.
Batter pre-conditions on the way to a super charger. It's basically just being a pure idiot one way or another.
(EV owner here...)
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January 16, 2024, 08:11 AM
lastmanstanding
quote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot: Thermal runaway in 3-2-1……
Picture of EV Mustang in 3-2-1.... Couldn't help it
"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
January 16, 2024, 09:04 AM
jigray3
The bad news for EVs, and in particular Tesla as the standard bearer, just continues to pile up. Seems the media is beginning to do their job and I have a sense that reports like we have seen recently have legs and will impact the industry. Reality can be a very harsh mistress.
"We have a system that increasingly taxes work, and increasingly subsidizes non-work" - Milton Friedman
January 16, 2024, 09:20 AM
alteon180e
Lol..and most of those cars are set to charge limit of 80% or so. Guy telling people to charge when they hit 30%...so 50% if your lucky, and if your car doesn't have a warm blanket, you can lose 10-15% overnight. amazing. i guess everyone forgot that California...having nearly ideal weather is most populated areas..makes ev's look great.Then the snow comes...
Home Chargers + Garage + time for charging...sure seem to be awfully affluent criteria for a super golf cart.
January 16, 2024, 09:44 AM
powermad
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Really this. OR you're to big of an idiot to not find somewhere to top it off when you're down to 50 miles of range or so left.
Batter pre-conditions on the way to a super charger. It's basically just being a pure idiot one way or another.
(EV owner here...)
Don't they have a feature to activate pre-conditioning while it's parked? Plug it in and hit the button, let it warm up and then take a charge.
Or does it not work that way?
January 16, 2024, 09:45 AM
sse
stay home and get door dash for a month or two
January 16, 2024, 09:49 AM
bcereuss
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
quote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot: Thermal runaway in 3-2-1……
Picture of EV Mustang in 3-2-1.... Couldn't help it
My thought exactly!
January 16, 2024, 11:28 AM
sig sailor
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé: Makes me smile, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
Smile? You are a nicer man than I. I laughed out loud!
"Do not approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction." John Deacon, Author
I asked myself if I was crazy, and we all said no.
January 16, 2024, 01:02 PM
DoctorSolo
quote:
Originally posted by powermad:
quote:
Really this. OR you're to big of an idiot to not find somewhere to top it off when you're down to 50 miles of range or so left.
Batter pre-conditions on the way to a super charger. It's basically just being a pure idiot one way or another.
(EV owner here...)
Don't they have a feature to activate pre-conditioning while it's parked? Plug it in and hit the button, let it warm up and then take a charge.
Or does it not work that way?
Diclaimer, we own a Tesla, and I think it's a barely above-average car, not a GREAT car like my glorious steriod injected ICE BMW.
To answer your question, Yes they can and do precondition the batteries, these stranded people are fucking idiots. Tesla's very clear on the effects of efficiency from cold weather.
Motherfuckers can't READ, it's not the car's fault.
You can charge these cars off of a normal 110 15A outlet. We do, and it's not a problem keeping the car full, you just gotta remember to plug it in, just like you have to put gas in your glorious ICE vehicle. If you let it drain to 10% and then get surprised it wont go after your jaunt to the piggly wiggly in sub-zero conditions, you are just another idiot with plenty of company.
January 16, 2024, 01:07 PM
erj_pilot
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
quote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot: Thermal runaway in 3-2-1……
Picture of EV Mustang in 3-2-1.... Couldn't help it
"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
January 16, 2024, 01:15 PM
goose5
Cold does reduce battery output, but there is another aspect. Gas-powered vehicles use heat from internal combustion to heat the interior. The only way to heat the interior of an EV run the current through resistance. That takes a lot of juice, and that reduces the range of the EV.
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January 16, 2024, 01:29 PM
HK Ag
Cue the well deserved Simpson's HA HA pointing gif!!!
