A friend of mine has a 650hp Shelby GT500 Mustang. I got to spend an hour driving it on the twisty back roads of Texas hill country. Omg. Scary amounts of usable power. Break the tires loose at 60mph in 2nd power.




Unreal. Not sure I’d want this kind of power for a daily driver. It’s just too tempting.

With great power comes great responsibility.

Those twisty Austin backroads are a blast, had fun in my 240hp Mercedes on some of them.
A proper sports car is a blast.

Driving a 650 HP Mustang is a LOT of fun. I used to drive one daily, and the power is extremely tempting and easily abused. I'm surprised I'm still here today. It was a lot of fun and a totally different era and time when I had mine. Sad thing is I put $30k into a 1993 mustang cobra to achieve that HP and with the new ones, a supercharger, exhaust, and a chip and you're there. Plus they handle and STOP.

I got to drive a Z06 corvette for a day too, and it was a beast. It was hard not to want to buy one, but the next day my brain took over.....LOL

I have a 2002 truck and always seem to need a truck. If I buy a new vehicle then it will most likely have to be a truck. I would love to own a high horsepower car such as a Mustang, Camaro, or a Charger. Sadly I probably never will, but I got to experience crazy power from riding my Suzuki Hyabusa. If I had the money, I would buy a muscle car along with a truck, but that is fantasy for me.

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
Driving a 650 HP Mustang is a LOT of fun. I used to drive one daily, and the power is extremely tempting and easily abused. I'm surprised I'm still here today. It was a lot of fun and a totally different era and time when I had mine. Sad thing is I put $30k into a 1993 mustang cobra to achieve that HP and with the new ones, a supercharger, exhaust, and a chip and you're there. Plus they handle and STOP.

I got to drive a Z06 corvette for a day too, and it was a beast. It was hard not to want to buy one, but the next day my brain took over.....LOL

You had 650hp on a pushrod 5.0 26 years ago?

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
Driving a 650 HP Mustang is a LOT of fun. I used to drive one daily, and the power is extremely tempting and easily abused. I'm surprised I'm still here today. It was a lot of fun and a totally different era and time when I had mine. Sad thing is I put $30k into a 1993 mustang cobra to achieve that HP and with the new ones, a supercharger, exhaust, and a chip and you're there. Plus they handle and STOP.

I got to drive a Z06 corvette for a day too, and it was a beast. It was hard not to want to buy one, but the next day my brain took over.....LOL

You had 650hp on a pushrod 5.0 26 years ago?

Well if you are willing spend $30,000 (of 1995 value dollars) on a $19,000 car, why not? Super charger and nitrous plus crate motor, custom tunes, Dyno time.

Besides producing 650hp, the more impressive part would be how he got the power to acceleration and traction. Z rated tires of that era couldn't handle that load. Would need super soft, wide drag radials, or sticky track tires.

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:
I have a 2002 truck and always seem to need a truck. If I buy a new vehicle then it will most likely have to be a truck. I would love to own a high horsepower car such as a Mustang, Camaro, or a Charger. Sadly I probably never will, but I got to experience crazy power from riding my Suzuki Hyabusa. If I had the money, I would buy a muscle car along with a truck, but that is fantasy for me.

Why compromise? You could pick up a Raptor if you want to go stock (high on my list for my next vehicle), or for more power than you can handle, I understand that Roush is doing some impressive things with an F-150 these days.

-Rob

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Originally posted by 1s1k:

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
Driving a 650 HP Mustang is a LOT of fun. I used to drive one daily, and the power is extremely tempting and easily abused. I'm surprised I'm still here today. It was a lot of fun and a totally different era and time when I had mine. Sad thing is I put $30k into a 1993 mustang cobra to achieve that HP and with the new ones, a supercharger, exhaust, and a chip and you're there. Plus they handle and STOP.

I got to drive a Z06 corvette for a day too, and it was a beast. It was hard not to want to buy one, but the next day my brain took over.....LOL

You had 650hp on a pushrod 5.0 26 years ago?

Well if you are willing spend $30,000 (of 1995 value dollars) on a $19,000 car, why not? Super charger and nitrous plus crate motor, custom tunes, Dyno time.

Besides producing 650hp, the more impressive part would be how he got the power to acceleration and traction. Z rated tires of that era couldn't handle that load. Would need super soft, wide drag radials, or sticky track tires.

Yes, I raced Fun Ford Weekend- Street Renegade class mid to late 90's. Car ran 10.80's @ 128 mph on 10"x26" MT slicks, 11.80's at 130 mph on Michelin Pilot street tires in the 1/4 mile. It would break the 275/40/17 michelins loose shifting into 4th gear at 90 mph. I placed 5th in Bradenton and 3rd in Gainesville and would've have 1st place in Bradenton if I didn't miss a gear. Car would've gone faster with a worked C4 auto trans but I kept the 5 speed manual because I drove it 4 days a week and street raced too. This was with a/c and all factory options working and in the car (power steering, brakes, windows, locks,etc.) 6 point cage and car weighed over 3400 lbs (3460-3500 depending on fuel)


Car wasn't that radical. stock block and crank 302 with a girdle, 0.20" over, JE pistons, Manley rods, balanced and blueprinted, 8.3:1 compression. TFS twisted wedge aluminum heads stage 2 ported and o-ringed by Heads By Rick, stock cobra intake extrude honed, Crane blower cam. Vortech S trim with 16lbs of boost (it ran great with stock 93 octane with the msd boost retard set at 1), faster with 100 octane unleaded, 38 lb injectors, 2 fuel pumps, STOCK Ford computer, etc etc. 1 3/4" long tube headers, 2.5" x-pipe, 2.5 flowmaster cat back exhaust. Car was completely streetable, I used to drive it 100 miles each way every weekend to Fort Lauderdale, I put 30,000 miles on the motor without ever taking the valve covers off, however motor was tired at that point and I cracked the block unbeknownst to me, sold the car sans engine to one friend who totaled his blower car and had his own motor/blower, sold the motor to another friend and 3 mains were cracked and the girdle was holding everything together. The one friend sold it to another friend who still has it, I sold it around 2000.


Car was a handful. But a ton of fun.

The new Shelby’s coming will be 700++ and priced (MSRP, ha ha) under $75k. Dealer mark up will be interesting the first few months they are out.

This IS the muscle car era. The amount of HP they're reliably getting out of the new sportscars is insane. I know of a tuner/mechanic getting 1000 HP out of some of the new Camaro's without even going inside the motor. You can easily get 735HP out of a mustang with just a turbo or supercharger, bolt ons, chipped and E85.

Bet you haven't wiped the smile off your face yet, have ya? Mustangs have always been one of my favorite cars, usually because of the smile factor.

Gear heads are living in some great times right now. I've been waiting for the G or the Insurance industry to put a stop to it. We are having too much fun!

C8 Corvette unveiling a few weeks back was epic. And thats just the start for that platform. HP will go nothing but UP as the performance models are introduced in a year or so.

We have the Shelby GT500. The insane MoPar offerings. Hell even some of the performance oriented hot hatches and Honda Civics are FUN.

Great times.

I was looking at an Ecoboost Mustang. I couldn't rationalize the price of a GT or Shelby. I test drove them all and they did put a huge smile on my face. I ended up buying a STI due to the AWD. I do live in a place that has significant winters. I'd own a Mustang in a heart beat if I lived in an area with little to no snow.

As good as the Michelins are your buddy can use a set of drag radials on the rear. Im running Nitto NT05R’s on my Hellcat Challenger and they made a big improvement in making the car hook.

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Car wasn't that radical.

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Car was a handful. But a ton of fun.

Yes it was, and I bet it was.

Hard to believe the power cars are making from the factory today. When the 2003 Cobra was released with 390/390 I thought that was incredible since my Lightning was ‘only’ 380 with the supercharged 5.4 as compared to the Cobra with the 4.6. Great days to be a gearhead.

A mere 455 horse and with an 8 speed auto capable of mid to high 12's in street trim. Yet at 70-80 mph and a careful right foot, one can get a true 26-28 mpg EASILY. And really TRYING to get good mileage at 60mph I have seen 30 mpg on a trip! Amazing stuff.

I can recall fifty years ago ANY street car getting into the 12's was borderline amazing. Most did it were ; big cubic inches, lots of 101 octane , LOW rear gears and big tires.

We are living in the 2nd Golden Age of street Muscle.

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:
I have a 2002 truck and always seem to need a truck. If I buy a new vehicle then it will most likely have to be a truck. I would love to own a high horsepower car such as a Mustang, Camaro, or a Charger. Sadly I probably never will, but I got to experience crazy power from riding my Suzuki Hyabusa. If I had the money, I would buy a muscle car along with a truck, but that is fantasy for me.

Why compromise? You could pick up a Raptor if you want to go stock (high on my list for my next vehicle), or for more power than you can handle, I understand that Roush is doing some impressive things with an F-150 these days.

-Rob

I have a Lincoln Navigator L, which has the same engine as the Ford Raptor. It's a little heavier, but not a whole lot.

It's pretty zippy for how big a vehicle it is, but it doesn't accelerate like a real sportscar.

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Originally posted by FN in MT:
Gear heads are living in some great times right now. I've been waiting for the G or the Insurance industry to put a stop to it. We are having too much fun!

C8 Corvette unveiling a few weeks back was epic. And thats just the start for that platform. HP will go nothing but UP as the performance models are introduced in a year or so.

We have the Shelby GT500. The insane MoPar offerings. Hell even some of the performance oriented hot hatches and Honda Civics are FUN.

Great times.

Yep, the Libtards/Progressives are all dour, morose, dismal, sullen individuals who don't think anyone should ever have any fun. They deserve their gloomy existences.

flashguy