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I just came across this story, and know only what was reported here. I am interested if others know more about the NIBIN van.

http://wgntv.com/2017/06/26/at...-fight-gun-violence/
 
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The van will be either stolen, shot-up, or one of IL's creditors will try to put a lien on it.
 
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^^^^^^^^ Sums it up ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


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The van will be either stolen, shot-up, or one of IL's creditors will try to put a lien on it.

And thst's just the peril from elected officials


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Yep, previews of coming attractions Roll Eyes

 
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Yep, previews of coming attractions Roll Eyes



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So is the ATF van policing for booze and guns, or are they selling booze and guns. After all, it is Chicago. Smile




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Does the city really think ballistic tests will help reduce the violence? Sure, they can find out in "hours" if the shell casings match casings from previous crimes, but those guns are stolen and passed around from gang-banger to gang-banger routinely.

I wouldn't be surprised if they swapped guns between gangs, or stole each others guns.

Sure, nobody is cooperating with investigators when it comes to solving crime so they need to do "something," and again they go for the easy stuff. They demand the easy stuff.

They seem to avoid the HARD stuff, the CULTURE problem in certain areas of the city.


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Firing squads.

Which will be the purview of vigilantes, eventually.


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Over and under in days before it's on blocks, stripped clean????


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Sure, nobody is cooperating with investigators when it comes to solving crime so they need to do "something," and again they go for the easy stuff. They demand the easy stuff.

They seem to avoid the HARD stuff, the CULTURE problem in certain areas of the city.

Steve



I agree with your post. Feel good things, not solving the problem. NYC solved their gang problem, Chicago did not. This is what I was told and it makes sense.
 
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They seem to avoid the HARD stuff, the CULTURE problem in certain areas of the city.

Perhaps you didn't read the article on the ATF van and gun violence. Wink

"Also this morning, the first group of new police recruits met at the DuSable Museum of African American History to get cultural awareness training. Mayor Emanuel said it's just like visiting the Holocaust Museum, and is used as a tool to combat bigotry and hatred."

Yes, the quote is from the op's link.
ATF van deployed in Chicago to help police fight gun violence



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They seem to avoid the HARD stuff, the CULTURE problem in certain areas of the city.

Perhaps you didn't read the article on the ATF van and gun violence. Wink

"Also this morning, the first group of new police recruits met at the DuSable Museum of African American History to get cultural awareness training. Mayor Emanuel said it's just like visiting the Holocaust Museum, and is used as a tool to combat bigotry and hatred."

Yes, the quote is from the op's link.
ATF van deployed in Chicago to help police fight gun violence


So, now we know the main job of the Chicago Police. Who cares if murder and shootings is off the charts in the city?


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So is the ATF van policing for booze and guns, or are they selling booze and guns. After all, it is Chicago. Smile

Doesn't that kind of depend on which side of town they're on?
 
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^^^^^
Not so much, anymore. Reading between the lines of crime stories in the "better" areas of Chicago these last few weeks, the Ghetto Rats are moving in. Groups of "teens" accosting and robbing (or worse) in areas north of The Loop/Downtown.

Plenty of televised interviews of residents who are "shocked" at the new goings-on.


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So when you're looking for a wi-fi signal on your phone and you see "ATF VAN #4"....well it may just be an ATF van Wink
 
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So....nothing to go after the gangs and drug dealers.

How about open hunting tags?
 
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Does the city really think ballistic tests will help reduce the violence? Sure, they can find out in "hours" if the shell casings match casings from previous crimes, but those guns are stolen and passed around from gang-banger to gang-banger routinely.

I wouldn't be surprised if they swapped guns between gangs, or stole each others guns.

Sure, nobody is cooperating with investigators when it comes to solving crime so they need to do "something," and again they go for the easy stuff. They demand the easy stuff.

They seem to avoid the HARD stuff, the CULTURE problem in certain areas of the city.


You are missing the point. Never mind that the City has had this capability for years now, this van gives Dick "the turban" Durbin and Tiny Dancer the ability to tell the yuppies that they are doing something, that they were able to get the van to Chicago. They will eat this up as if it were the second coming of Christ.
 
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So....nothing to go after the gangs and drug dealers.

How about open hunting tags?


If it were open to out-of-state hunters, you would have to issue the tags by a lottery. Big Grin




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so how many guns is the ATF going to 'lose' this time?



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