I have a bone in, 4 pound, about 4 inch cowboy ribeye that I plan to reverse sear this evening.
I’m staying at a cabin with an electric oven that is unfamiliar to me and then going to sear it over the coals of my campfire.
Thinking about 225° in the oven, until I get to about 100° in the center. Any thoughts on that or projected time frames?
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November 27, 2021, 03:51 PM
ShneaSIG
Good reverse searing a thick slab of beef pretty much requires a thermometer. You want to get the middle to about 120-122 before you go sear.
I like to heat it up in an oven or grill (indirect heat) at about 250-275, and when the middle hits 122, I sear it on my face-of-the-sun hot searing burner.
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November 27, 2021, 03:54 PM
Ronin1069
Quote: Good reverse searing a thick slab of beef pretty much requires a thermometer. ——————————
Agreed! I forgot to mention that I did bring my Thermo pen with me.
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November 27, 2021, 03:59 PM
tatortodd
I've never smoked at 200 so I can't predict time.
quote:
4 inch cowboy ribeye
By that do you mean 4" thick? If so:
that is going to have cooking times similar to a roast as thickness has more impact than length.
I'd advise changing your plan to switch from slow to sear at 100. I usually switch to sear when it's about 10 from final temp (e.g. I like medium rare so I switch at 120ish).
I reverse sear steak nearly every week, but I do it at 235 to 250 and I've never done thicker than 2" (35 to 45 min). I've reverse seared sirloin roast, tri-tip, etc. at 235 to 250 too (1.5 to 2 hours).
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November 27, 2021, 04:09 PM
BBMW
I usually switch at 105. But I'm not doing 4" thick (probably more like 2").
quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd: I've never smoked at 200 so I can't predict time.
quote:
4 inch cowboy ribeye
By that do you mean 4" thick? If so:
that is going to have cooking times similar to a roast as thickness has more impact than length.
I'd advise changing your plan to switch from slow to sear at 100. I usually switch to sear when it's about 10 from final temp (e.g. I like medium rare so I switch at 120ish).
I reverse sear steak nearly every week, but I do it at 235 to 250 and I've never done thicker than 2" (35 to 45 min). I've reverse seared sirloin roast, tri-tip, etc. at 235 to 250 too (1.5 to 2 hours).
November 27, 2021, 04:17 PM
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November 27, 2021, 04:22 PM
joatmonv
Go to 125 degrees and let rest for about 10 minutes. Get that grill piping hot and sear it to your desired internal temperature. Medium rare for me at 140 internal. Thermometer is your friend here with something that big.
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November 27, 2021, 04:25 PM
Ronin1069
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Originally posted by parabellum: Subject line
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November 27, 2021, 06:16 PM
smschulz
I think I would let it go a little further than 100 degrees especially with it that thick. Why not reverse sear it also over the campfire too for some more smoke? You might even cook it directly ON the coals ~ I never have tried it but that is the true Cowboy way and something I want to try. Otherwise it sounds like a great eat.
November 27, 2021, 06:47 PM
Gustofer
I'm no chef but I do grill steaks a couple times a week (not reverse seared). I've never grilled one 4" thick though because let's face it...that's a roast.
I'd say that pulling it at 100F and then searing would result in ribeye tartare except at the edges. I'd go much higher in something that thick. Probably closer to 130 for me and a good hot sear.
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November 27, 2021, 08:42 PM
DaveL
For a ribeye I’d put it on the oven rack with a drip pan under it at the lowest temp you can manage - 225 or 250. Cook it to 110 internal flipping now and again. Either salt it a few hours before you start or right before you cook.
Rest the steak for at least 10 minutes after it hits 110 and it should carryover to at least 125. I think ribeyes are more tender around 125 than a bit less.
Get the grill as hot as humanly possible while the steak rests and then sear flipping often. Don’t forget the edges!
November 27, 2021, 09:12 PM
Skins2881
quote:
Originally posted by joatmonv: Go to 125 degrees and let rest for about 10 minutes. Get that grill piping hot and sear it to your desired internal temperature. Medium rare for me at 140 internal. Thermometer is your friend here with something that big.
This sounds good to me, but I'd target 135ish rather than 140.
As someone else mentioned. If you have a fire going I'd do the initial cooking on there, then finish in a pan or grill on high.
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November 27, 2021, 09:18 PM
corsair
First things first, a steak that thick you'll need to pull-out of the fridge 2hrs prior to cooking. Get the meat up to room temp or, close to it, it'll make cooking much easier and you're not starting out from the deep cold.
I think you're spot-on with reverse searing, then finishing over a fire. I'd pull it out of the oven around 100, then fire it. Make sure you've got a good thermometer, hint-hint, Thermopen.
Love my Thermapens, but I use one of THESE as well when I am cooking what is essentially a roast.
November 28, 2021, 12:13 AM
mod29
Cut it in half. As already noted, a 4" thick steak is actually a roast.
November 28, 2021, 08:36 AM
Ronin1069
Forgive the lack of pics…
I pulled it from the fridge and let it sit for about an hour-and-a-half…heavily rubbed it with Montreal steak seasoning.
Put into 200 degree oven for 1 hour and checked the center with my ThermaPen. We were up to 80 degrees.
From there I turned the oven down to 175 degrees (I had no desire to rush this) and it took about another hour or so to reach 105 degrees center. (Which was what I was seeking)
I covered in tin-foil and let rest while I went outside and adjusted the campfire so that the grate I had was sitting about 4 inches above a VERY hot bed of coals.
Layed the steak across the grate and used a piece of cardboard to ‘gently’ fan the coals and get some flamage.
Flipped a few times - both sides had about 2 minute of direct searing campfire.
Smothered with homemade garlic butter…
Cut into it to find an absolutely PERFECT pink all the way through.
There is a reason I rarely order steaks ‘out’. They never taste as good as I make them at home, and I have yet to find a kitchen who believes me when I say “pink”.
As an aside, this is some of the best beef I’ve ever tasted. There is a Farmer’s Market in Minneapolis (I know I know) that is attended by a farmer whose cattle are just this side of amazing. Expensive as hell, but well worth it if you are going for perfection.
Thanks for all of the tips, you guys!
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November 28, 2021, 08:41 AM
joatmonv
quote:
Originally posted by Ronin1069: Forgive the lack of pics…
I pulled it from the fridge and let it sit for about an hour-and-a-half…heavily rubbed it with Montreal steak seasoning.
Put into 200 degree oven for 1 hour and checked the center with my ThermaPen. We were up to 80 degrees.
From there I turned the oven down to 175 degrees (I had no desire to rush this) and it took about another hour or so to reach 105 degrees center. (Which was what I was seeking)
I covered in tin-foil and let rest while I went outside and adjusted the campfire so that the grate I had was sitting about 4 inches above a VERY hot bed of coals.
Layed the steak across the grate and used a piece of cardboard to ‘gently’ fan the coals and get some flamage.
Flipped a few times - both sides had about 2 minute of direct searing campfire.
Smothered with homemade garlic butter…
Cut into it to find an absolutely PERFECT pink all the way through.
There is a reason I rarely order steaks ‘out’. They never taste as good as I make them at home, and I have yet to find a kitchen who believes me when I say “pink”.
As an aside, this is some of the best beef I’ve ever tasted. There is a Farmer’s Market in Minneapolis (I know I know) that is attended by a farmer whose cattle are just this side of amazing. Expensive as hell, but well worth it if you are going for perfection.
Thanks for all of the tips, you guys!
Glad it turned out the way you wanted it. Reverse sear is the way to go with bigger cuts IMO. Sometimes you gotta treat yourself to good cuts of meat to truly appreciate it.
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November 28, 2021, 09:16 AM
lyman
sounds fantastic,
I was worried that you would follow the 120+ degree advice and have it too done,
and this thread needed not only pics,, but a Quarter as well
