6 month old black car, just washed it this weekend and discovered millions, and I truly mean millions, of very tiny dots on the finish. Hard to notice unless it is in direct sunlight. The entire car is covered, every surface including glass. They are dispersed evenly on the car, sides, top, front, and back, just as many on the sides as on the roof and hood. For the life of me I can't figure out where they came from. I could understand if they were mainly on one section of the car. Didn't happen at home because my other black car is clean and they both stay in the garage. I don't think it happened at work because I do not see any other cars in the lot with the same problem. I waxed it in February using Zymol Concours which is all I have used for the last 10 years.
Regardless of how they got there I need to get them off. I did a power washer and 2 bucket wash with DI water and it didn't effect them. I also used my orbital buffer with Menzerna medium cut, (400) with an orange Lake Country pad and it didn't help. I had an old piece of Zymol Lehm clay and with a little work this takes them off. This is really going to suck using the clay putty to 100% of the car. Was wondering what others use for claying, anything better out there now days?

Sounds like rail dust. You’re probably going to need to clay bar the whole thing. Just make sure the paint is cool and in the shade. My new Accord had tiny rust spots all over the paint that were barely noticeable. Clay bar did the trick.

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clay bar

Yes, clay bar first.

Clay bar to 100% of the car should be standard regular maintenance--once or twice a year in my house. It should be only slightly more annoying than waxing the vehicle. Perhaps youtube the proper technique and use lots of lubricant?

You might want to take it by your dealership. If it is the rail dust they could clean it up gratis. I have heard somewhere they will take care of it.

Or I may have dreamed it. It’s worth asking about.

Yes, there is something newer and easier than clay.

It's a mitt covered in a sticky polymer that does the same job as clay, but is easier to work with. If you drop it, you can rinse it off and go back to work. When it gets dirty, rinse it and get back to work. No kneading, spreading, or any of that bullshit.

Your whole hand fits inside, so it's faster and easier. Use the same spray lube for this as you would for clay. I think you could also use your normal car wash soap mix.

They come in medium and fine grade.

I have one of each. Used the fine on my new car, medium on the old. No issues at all. Works exactly like clay, but faster.

https://www.autogeek.net/nanos...mitt-fine-grade.html

Thanks for the info, I will try the mitt. I hate to clay, don't mind polishing, I use 3 different grits before waxing.

I don't think its rail dust, last time I washed it, about 2 weeks ago, it wasn't there. It's white and looks like paint overspray. I live in the exact center of the new oil and gas boom, pass dozens of chemical and fracking trucks daily, might be something from one of them.

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Originally posted by g8rforester:
Yes, there is something newer and easier than clay.

It's a mitt covered in a sticky polymer that does the same job as clay, but is easier to work with. If you drop it, you can rinse it off and go back to work. When it gets dirty, rinse it and get back to work. No kneading, spreading, or any of that bullshit.

Your whole hand fits inside, so it's faster and easier. Use the same spray lube for this as you would for clay. I think you could also use your normal car wash soap mix.

They come in medium and fine grade.

I have one of each. Used the fine on my new car, medium on the old. No issues at all. Works exactly like clay, but faster.

I just bought one of these. I washed my car first, changed out the water and soap and used this on my paint just like I was washing again.

https://www.griotsgarage.com/p...sh+synthetic+clay.do

I bought the mits as well, not the Nano but the Griots, same as you the fine and the fast. The fine wouldn't touch the stuff on the paint but it took off the debris on the glass and plastic. The fast took it off the paint but it was a battle, had to do each section 3 times, wiping it off each time. Good news the car is clean. Just started the medium grit polish, (2400).

I need to get a new orbital buffer, the speed reo is not working very well on my porter cable, basically only runs at minimum speed or max speed.

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Originally posted by g8rforester:
Yes, there is something newer and easier than clay.

It's a mitt covered in a sticky polymer that does the same job as clay, but is easier to work with. If you drop it, you can rinse it off and go back to work. When it gets dirty, rinse it and get back to work. No kneading, spreading, or any of that bullshit.

Your whole hand fits inside, so it's faster and easier. Use the same spray lube for this as you would for clay. I think you could also use your normal car wash soap mix.

They come in medium and fine grade.

I have one of each. Used the fine on my new car, medium on the old. No issues at all. Works exactly like clay, but faster.

https://www.autogeek.net/nanos...mitt-fine-grade.html

I had rail dust on a new RAM pickup. Didn't show up until after the winter. Dealer turned in a warranty claim and it was covered in full. Definitely do that first.

Chevy?

I use this orbital from Griots. Works well and has a lifetime warranty. I swapped out the backing plate for a 5" and use Lake County foam pads. I also use a 3" backing plate & 3" pads for areas a 5" pad isn't practical.
https://www.griotsgarage.com/p...ge+random+orbital.do

If the tiny dots are rail dust, you can use a paint surface decontamination product like CarPro Iron-X.

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Originally posted by 08 Cayenne:
I bought the mits as well, not the Nano but the Griots, same as you the fine and the fast. The fine wouldn't touch the stuff on the paint but it took off the debris on the glass and plastic. The fast took it off the paint but it was a battle, had to do each section 3 times, wiping it off each time. Good news the car is clean. Just started the medium grit polish, (2400).

I need to get a new orbital buffer, the speed reo is not working very well on my porter cable, basically only runs at minimum speed or max speed.

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Originally posted by g8rforester:
Yes, there is something newer and easier than clay.

It's a mitt covered in a sticky polymer that does the same job as clay, but is easier to work with. If you drop it, you can rinse it off and go back to work. When it gets dirty, rinse it and get back to work. No kneading, spreading, or any of that bullshit.

Your whole hand fits inside, so it's faster and easier. Use the same spray lube for this as you would for clay. I think you could also use your normal car wash soap mix.

They come in medium and fine grade.

I have one of each. Used the fine on my new car, medium on the old. No issues at all. Works exactly like clay, but faster.

https://www.autogeek.net/nanos...mitt-fine-grade.html

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