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Someone explain to me we we started naming storms when they are subtropical
May 27, 2018, 03:07 PM
ScoutmasterSomeone explain to me we we started naming storms when they are subtropical
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Originally posted by Birdvol:
Global warming/climax change is de rigueur - who cares?
Freezing when it should/hot when it should be/ eh/ blame it on....something...climax change.
Sounds good to me.
Now, hand over the climax change money....or I'll let the most lethally boring man in the world, Al Gore The Bore to start speaking...you'll die listening...exposure time to death listening...one second.
I think there's some truth in your humor.
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zoom6zoomI'm gonna start naming farts. There MUST be some sort of Beaufort type scale for them.
I have my own style of humor. I call it Snarkasm. May 27, 2018, 09:07 PM
TommydoggThey name more storms so nobody feels left out or disenfranchised!
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May 27, 2018, 09:15 PM
TigerDoreWe once just named hurricanes. This new hysterical approach does two things: It drives more website traffic and it reinforces global warming hysteria among non-thinkers.
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May 27, 2018, 11:00 PM
bubbatimeIts horseshit.
Subtropical storm? WTF? Those used to be called depressions. And they are not a big deal. They bring a little rain. Yippy.
We get more rain and wind in your normal summer thunderstorm, than this stupid "storm".
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May 27, 2018, 11:05 PM
smithnsigWe’ve been naming subtropicals for a while, but they are usually a transitional storm, from tropical to subtropical. Alberto will turn tropical when the upper level winds (cold frontal type) settle down. When this happens, the warm core moisture feeding will take over turning it tropical.
All this usually happens before rotational speed goes above 39kt. Alberto has rotation, is above 39kt. So there is no surface low turning depression, turning tropical storm. It has the wind characteristics of a tropical storm but still has cold core. Tomorrow when the uppers relax, the warm core will be fueling it and will be officially tropical in nature.
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May 28, 2018, 10:10 PM
TigerDorequote:
Originally posted by smithnsig:
We’ve been naming subtropicals for a while, but they are usually a transitional storm, from tropical to subtropical. Alberto will turn tropical when the upper level winds (cold frontal type) settle down. When this happens, the warm core moisture feeding will take over turning it tropical.
All this usually happens before rotational speed goes above 39kt. Alberto has rotation, is above 39kt. So there is no surface low turning depression, turning tropical storm. It has the wind characteristics of a tropical storm but still has cold core. Tomorrow when the uppers relax, the warm core will be fueling it and will be officially tropical in nature.
It's just a storm. That's all. It doesn't deserve a name. This is all hysteria.
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May 29, 2018, 10:38 AM
SpinZoneI expect the local
Fearmongers weather guessers to start naming the afternoon thunder storms we get here throughout the summers.
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May 29, 2018, 11:09 AM
ccmdfdNHC/NOAA was given a lot of grief back in 2012 when Hurricane Sandy morphed into a post-tropical system, and then slammed into NYC.
The policy at the time was, once it's no longer tropical, NHC dropped its name, and no longer gave forecasts or reports on.
The powers that be felt that if NHC had kept it as a named storm, people would have paid more attention to it and heeded warnings and such better than they did at that time.
Part of the equation into naming all sorts of storms now.
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May 29, 2018, 11:17 AM
casquote:
Originally posted by blusmoke:
When the Weather Channel and all other sources weather starting selling fear.
Cable Tv made weather a product. Naming them increases the product line.
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May 29, 2018, 11:24 AM
sns3guppyquote:
Originally posted by 71 TRUCK:
I live in Florida and do not remember ever naming storms till they reached tropical storm wind speeds.
Did this latest storm in the Gulf reach the speed needed to name it than drop down to speeds below tropical wind speed to stay a tropical storm.
Are we naming the storms now so we as a state can qualify for some sort of government relief.
I am confused.
From NOAA:
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/storm-names.html quote:
Until the early 1950s, tropical storms and hurricanes were tracked by year and the order in which they occurred during that year. Over time, it was learned that the use of short, easily remembered names in written as well as spoken communications is quicker and reduces confusion when two or more tropical storms occur at the same time. In the past, confusion and false rumors resulted when storm advisories broadcast from radio stations were mistaken for warnings concerning an entirely different storm located hundreds of miles away.
In 1953, the United States began using female names for storms and, by 1978, both male and female names were used to identify Northern Pacific storms. This was then adopted in 1979 for storms in the Atlantic basin.
NOAA’s National Hurricane Center does not control the naming of tropical storms. Instead, there is a strict procedure established by the World Meteorological Organization. For Atlantic hurricanes, there is a list of male and female names which are used on a six-year rotation. The only time that there is a change is if a storm is so deadly or costly that the future use of its name on a different storm would be inappropriate. In the event that more than twenty-one named tropical cyclones occur in a season, any additional storms will take names from the Greek alphabet.