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The Navy will reportedly sideline 17 vessels due to a manpower shortage that makes it difficult to properly crew and operate ships across the fleet.

There just aren’t enough Merchant Marines to keep all the ships going at once, according to Rear Admiral (Ret.) Mark Montgomery, senior director of the Center on Cyber and Technology Innovation for the Foundation for Defense of Democracy, told Fox News Digital.

Merchant Marines operate the many support vessels needed to keep the Navy running.

“The problem, of course, is the ships are at sea, away from home port 12 months of the year,” Montgomery said. “So you need two crews … we’re desperately short of the number of people.”

“There’s a lack of experienced merchant mariners to crew the ships, and this is really a clear danger to national security,” Montgomery added.

The Military Sealift Command drafted a plan to put 17 ships into “extended maintenance,” which would include a redistribution of crews to other vessels across the Navy, the U.S. Naval Institute reported.

The ships include two replenishment ships, one fleet oiler, a dozen Spearhead-class Expeditionary Fast Transports and two forward-deployed Navy expeditionary sea bases – the USS Lewis Puller, based in Bahrain and the USS Herschel “Woody” Williams, based in Souda Bay, Greece.

The effort is known as the “great reset” and is awaiting approval from Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Lisa Franchetti.

The change will reduce Navy demands for officers by 700 mariners.

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Well son of a bitch. Almost like spending the last 12 of 16 years treating them like shit and forcing a lot of good people out. So odd.
 
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MSC...Military Sealift Command was never a desirable job. At least I can say that since 1980. Pay was/is not competitive with public or private company jobs and time working is not a day for day schedule. Great for sea time for those wanting to upgrade their licenses, but that's about the only benefit.

It's a real shame because that lay up is really going to put a strain on our defense.




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I've got a neighbor who's son is studying marine engineering at Cal Maritime Academy, he just returned from their Summer cruise across the Pacific. With all the issues affecting the commercial shipping world, how the MSC treats its crews and their ridiculous policies during Covid, he has zero interest in accepting a commission. Most of his classmate are looking at the fishing industry, petroleum or, one of the science platforms as a career.

YT Channel, What is Going on With Shipping? has touched on this in many of his videos, chastising the Navy and the US Gov for not just the abuse of the maritime industry but, the neglect and indifference towards it. The USN and USCG have serious problems, US Maritime is in even worse shape.
 
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Like it or not, the end of the draft in 1973 by President Nixon set us out on the slippery slope, accelerated by the DEI policies by Presidents Clinton, Obama, and Biden. The US military has been on a steep decline since the Clinton years, a draft dodger, followed by draft dodger Biden. It is not just the Navy, it is also the Army and the AF. As a retired AF officer, I am deeply concerned about the future of our once proud military!
 
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Just knowing that the other ships have diverse crews and they are all vaccinated...



 
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I've got a neighbor who's son is studying marine engineering at Cal Maritime Academy, he just returned from their Summer cruise across the Pacific. With all the issues affecting the commercial shipping world, how the MSC treats its crews and their ridiculous policies during Covid, he has zero interest in accepting a commission. Most of his classmate are looking at the fishing industry, petroleum or, one of the science platforms as a career.

YT Channel, What is Going on With Shipping? has touched on this in many of his videos, chastising the Navy and the US Gov for not just the abuse of the maritime industry but, the neglect and indifference towards it. The USN and USCG have serious problems, US Maritime is in even worse shape.


The USCG manpower shortage has not been helped by Fouled Anchor. With the rash of sexual assaults that have been swept under the rug, people are leaving in droves.
 
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For those interested or, have an interest in Naval matters, this is a good listen.

The Music Stopped at MSC, with Sal Mercogliano - on Midrats
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The conversation discusses the recent decision by the Navy to sideline 17 vessels due to a manpower shortage. This decision has raised concerns about the impact on the fleet's operational capabilities. The guest, Dr. Sal Mercagliano, explains that this issue has been a long time coming and traces it back to decisions made in the 1980s. He highlights the challenges faced by Military Sealift Command (MSC) in recruiting and retaining mariners, as well as the negative impact of COVID-19 on crew availability.

The conversation also touches on the lack of recognition and benefits for CivMars, the civilian mariners who serve on these ships. The conversation explores the challenges and potential solutions for the Military Sealift Command (MSC) and the U.S. merchant marine. The complex chain of command for MSC and the stringent requirements for civilian merchant sailors are discussed. The need to make it easier for people to transition from active duty to MSC is highlighted. The conversation also addresses the issues of training, leave, and travel expenses for MSC mariners. The low recruitment rate from the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy and the negative experiences of some mariners with MSC are mentioned.

The potential consequences of a shortage of mariners during a crisis are examined. The conversation emphasizes the importance of proper allocation of funds and the need for leadership and recognition of mariners' contributions. The lack of visibility and positive messaging about the merchant marine is discussed, along with the need for a national maritime strategy. The importance of logistics and the challenges of maintaining a strong logistics force are highlighted.

The conversation concludes with a discussion on the need to reevaluate the role of MSC and the potential benefits of reverting some ships from USNS to USS.
 
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I think our military is foolish to squander the defense budget on childish toys like helicopters, aircraft carriers and submarines. They learn nothing from our enemies.
For a fraction of the money they could simply send front men into hostile countries and buy up their television and radio stations, newspapers, entertainment companies and other information sources.
We could run their stock market, tell them which politicians to support, run their elections, omit any criticism of US policy, Tell them the US is their greatest ally and promote a host of bad ideas to unravel their social fabric.
We would have the power of social engineering. With that influence we could tell the men to be women, the women to be men and the children to choose their gender.
Within a short time the majority would stop having children.
We could tell them their ancestors were mean and hateful and shame them into accepting millions of immigrants from the jungles of Africa and India and if any of them complain we could label them extremists and racists and trigger their guilt. Then we could offer them redemption from their guilt by suggesting they intermarry with the immigrants.
Eventually the people of that country would lose their national and ethnic pride and identity and they would be willing to negotiate with us rather than resist in the name of their ancestors.
 
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The U,S, Coast Guard doing similar action by sidelining three Cutters because not enough manpower to crew them at this time.
 
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Originally posted by Silvermine:
I think our military is foolish to squander the defense budget on childish toys like helicopters, aircraft carriers and submarines. They learn nothing from our enemies.
For a fraction of the money they could simply send front men into hostile countries and buy up their television and radio stations, newspapers, entertainment companies and other information sources.
We could run their stock market, tell them which politicians to support, run their elections, omit any criticism of US policy, Tell them the US is their greatest ally and promote a host of bad ideas to unravel their social fabric.
We would have the power of social engineering. With that influence we could tell the men to be women, the women to be men and the children to choose their gender.
Within a short time the majority would stop having children.
We could tell them their ancestors were mean and hateful and shame them into accepting millions of immigrants from the jungles of Africa and India and if any of them complain we could label them extremists and racists and trigger their guilt. Then we could offer them redemption from their guilt by suggesting they intermarry with the immigrants.
Eventually the people of that country would lose their national and ethnic pride and identity and they would be willing to negotiate with us rather than resist in the name of their ancestors.


But then, very soon, the military-industrial complex that Pres. Eisenhower warned us about would have no wars for which to continue funding of. Worse yet, we might actually experience a period of (gulp…) legitimate peace.
And that is not good for “business”.
 
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Originally posted by Silvermine:
I think our military is foolish to squander the defense budget on childish toys like helicopters, aircraft carriers and submarines. They learn nothing from our enemies.
For a fraction of the money they could simply send front men into hostile countries and buy up their television and radio stations, newspapers, entertainment companies and other information sources.
We could run their stock market, tell them which politicians to support, run their elections, omit any criticism of US policy, Tell them the US is their greatest ally and promote a host of bad ideas to unravel their social fabric.
We would have the power of social engineering. With that influence we could tell the men to be women, the women to be men and the children to choose their gender.
Within a short time the majority would stop having children.
We could tell them their ancestors were mean and hateful and shame them into accepting millions of immigrants from the jungles of Africa and India and if any of them complain we could label them extremists and racists and trigger their guilt. Then we could offer them redemption from their guilt by suggesting they intermarry with the immigrants.
Eventually the people of that country would lose their national and ethnic pride and identity and they would be willing to negotiate with us rather than resist in the name of their ancestors.


But then, very soon, the military-industrial complex that Pres. Eisenhower warned us about would have no wars for which to continue funding of. Worse yet, we might actually experience a period of (gulp…) legitimate peace.
And that is not good for “business”.


Both of these posts are so true and so sad.

We could buy off most of the world for a fraction of what we spend on our defense. Yet we would put a large percentage of Americans out of work in the process.
 
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No carriers in the Pacific? Da fuk?
 
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Are there not enough drag queens applying for the Left's version of military service?
 
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No carriers in the Pacific? Da fuk?


https://www.navalnews.com/nava...oyed-in-the-pacific/
 
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