My mom is a spoiled brat. Whenever she deals with medical people she is a complete bitch. It's really embarrassing to have to see her not being nice to people who are helping her. She acts like all of them want to harm or kill her. She's the worst patient, allergic to everything, the MRI machine made her lose hearing, they don't believe her when she tells them about med reactions ect.

The last time she was in the hospital, likely for high blood pressure complications since she refuses to take the medications for it because they make her feel bad, she was as cantankerous as usual. The next day, I show up to see her and she's fawning about how nice the hospital is, the great care she's getting, and how nice the nurses are. My instincts told me they slipped her something to make her happy and compliant.

Is it possible they gave her this without a prescription or undocumented. I didn't look to see if the doctor prescribed some kind of a mood altering medicine. Know if this happens and if it is ever done under the table? What would they give? Whatever it was it sure was effective and made a day or night difference in changing her to a compliant patient.

Would appear to unethical and illegal. Maybe it was just a miracle.

Some questions are better off not asked.

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Originally posted by Warhorse:
Some questions are better off not asked.

So just enjoy the ride?

If my Mom were still alive, I would rather see her happy than bitchy is all I'm saying.

Sometimes there are multiple reasons a doctor (and his nurses, by way of subtle suggestion) can prescribe a medication. Could be creative needs-based prescribing that covered a cantankerous attitude as well?

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Is it possible they gave her this without a prescription or undocumented. I didn't look to see if the doctor prescribed some kind of a mood altering medicine. Know if this happens and if it is ever done under the table? What would they give? Whatever it was it sure was effective and made a day or night difference in changing her to a compliant patient.

The answer is no, there is no undocumented medication, and no medication of any kind given in a hospital without a physician's order. To do so would violate multiple laws and the individuals and the hospital would pay severe penalties.
You didn't say if you asked a nurse what she was given. That would be the appropriate thing to do.

Sounds like someone brought her a special Brownie treat

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Originally posted by TRshootem:
Sounds like someone brought her a special Brownie treat

I live in Missouri, not Colorado.

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Originally posted by sjtill:

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Is it possible they gave her this without a prescription or undocumented. I didn't look to see if the doctor prescribed some kind of a mood altering medicine. Know if this happens and if it is ever done under the table? What would they give? Whatever it was it sure was effective and made a day or night difference in changing her to a compliant patient.

The answer is no, there is no undocumented medication, and no medication of any kind given in a hospital without a physician's order. To do so would violate multiple laws and the individuals and the hospital would pay severe penalties.
You didn't say if you asked a nurse what she was given. That would be the appropriate thing to do.

By the time I figured out that this might have happened she was already out of the hospital. So if they don't do it under the table, what is the protocol to prescribe a medication to make a patient pleasant and complient?

Find out what it was and get a years supply.

I'd imagine you could just check the bill and see what they gave her...and maybe ask for more?

The only thing I could imagine them giving her is some Valium if she was experiencing anxiety that was affecting treatment.

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Originally posted by pbslinger:

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Originally posted by Warhorse:
Some questions are better off not asked.

So just enjoy the ride?

This x 10^Infinity

Usually anti depressants take a month to kick in. I would imagine any mood altering drug is the same.

Sure shes not bipolar?

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Originally posted by pbslinger:

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Originally posted by sjtill:

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Is it possible they gave her this without a prescription or undocumented. I didn't look to see if the doctor prescribed some kind of a mood altering medicine. Know if this happens and if it is ever done under the table? What would they give? Whatever it was it sure was effective and made a day or night difference in changing her to a compliant patient.

The answer is no, there is no undocumented medication, and no medication of any kind given in a hospital without a physician's order. To do so would violate multiple laws and the individuals and the hospital would pay severe penalties.
You didn't say if you asked a nurse what she was given. That would be the appropriate thing to do.

By the time I figured out that this might have happened she was already out of the hospital. So if they don't do it under the table, what is the protocol to prescribe a medication to make a patient pleasant and complient?

Like Dr. Goodheart said. No, that just doesn't happen now. Any nurse who did that would be making a major career decision. Anyway, all meds are in computer-controlled dispensing machines now, not in cabinets in the nursing station as they were several generations ago.
Fergitaboutit.

Maybe her oxygen was replaced with nitrous oxide.

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Originally posted by pbslinger:

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Originally posted by sjtill:

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Is it possible they gave her this without a prescription or undocumented. I didn't look to see if the doctor prescribed some kind of a mood altering medicine. Know if this happens and if it is ever done under the table? What would they give? Whatever it was it sure was effective and made a day or night difference in changing her to a compliant patient.

The answer is no, there is no undocumented medication, and no medication of any kind given in a hospital without a physician's order. To do so would violate multiple laws and the individuals and the hospital would pay severe penalties.
You didn't say if you asked a nurse what she was given. That would be the appropriate thing to do.

By the time I figured out that this might have happened she was already out of the hospital. So if they don't do it under the table, what is the protocol to prescribe a medication to make a patient pleasant and complient?

Like Dr. Goodheart said. No, that just doesn't happen now. Any nurse who did that would be making a major career decision. Anyway, all meds are in computer-controlled dispensing machines now, not in cabinets in the nursing station as they were several generations ago.
Fergitaboutit.

I need to start a new thread, because I witnessed a miracle.

So the history will be documented in the EMR (Electronic Medical Record). Go to the hospital Medical Records department and ask to see a copy of all of the records from her last visit. They'll give them to you (assuming you have control of her affairs).

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Would appear to unethical and illegal. Maybe it was just a miracle.

I got to admit, before I got to this part, I thought you were leading up to asking for a long term supply of whatever they gave her.

Like many things, medicine has become extremely rigid and controlled. 50 years ago, it *might* have happened as you suspected and been undocumented (but probably unlikely even then). Now, the chances of her getting anything that isn't marked down are vanishingly small.

They tell you if you don’t lighten up, you’ll be eating hospital food for the rest of your life.

I got a happy pill years ago just prior to my tonsilectomy. Yes, tonsils came out when I was late 20s. I have not been real sick like that ever since.

I have no idea what that pill was, That pill was a real relaxing, fun ride. Wheeeeeee...... But the week after in the throat was terrible.