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Help ID This Old, Large Copper Coin
March 29, 2023, 06:53 PM
hjs157Help ID This Old, Large Copper Coin
Can anyone ID this old coin? I've about exhausted all of my google search guesses. I believe the coin is made of copper. It measures 27.3 mm in diameter. One side is very well worn while the other appears to portray an oil lamp sitting upon a book. The handle of the lamp resembles a snake. Thanks for looking.
March 29, 2023, 06:58 PM
hjs157Incredible! Thanks Para.
March 29, 2023, 07:02 PM
bald13 minutes! OMG that was fast!
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March 29, 2023, 07:03 PM
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March 29, 2023, 07:06 PM
hjs157quote:
Originally posted by bald1:
3 minutes! OMG that was fast!
It may be a SIGforum record. I spent the better part of an hour scouring the web. I now suspect my error was searching for a
"coin" rather than a
"token". Once again, SIGforum saves the day.
March 29, 2023, 07:46 PM
4MUL8RI think it interesting that Latin words were used on a token replacing money, for obtaining valuable books. Imagine back then creating a token and saying "you know what, I'll use the Latin phrase SIG ITUR AD ASTRA so everyone knows what I'm talking about." It was reportedly written by Virgil in the Aenid to say "Thus one journeys to the stars." I suppose reading books has always taken us elsewhere, mentally, but for pre-Civil War culture, to reference the Aenid, I'm impressed.
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March 30, 2023, 04:02 AM
r0gueA literacy depot token. Very interesting.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/medal...ngc/a/131648-29836.s1845 M. P. Morse Pittsburgh Merchant Hard Times Token Literary Depot M - Pa
http://numismaclub.com/unt/105...ot_m___pa___590.htmlMarch 30, 2023, 04:08 AM
r0gueI searched Google Maps for No 85 Fourth Street in Pittsburgh (though the city still had no "h" in the name at the time of the coins striking). There's a Fourth Ave in the city downtown, and it's basically where the PPG Building is now. There's a Fourth Street across the river on the South Side, but that building looks to be early 1900s to my eyes. It would have been cool to find an old structure tucked away somewhere. The city of Pgh has more than a few structures that go back that far I'm sure.
March 30, 2023, 10:26 AM
hjs157What I find fascinating is the amount of wear the token displays. Based upon the condition, one may conclude these private tokens circulated concurrently with US minted legal tender coins.
March 30, 2023, 03:25 PM
skywagGoogle "lens" finds it in seconds.
March 30, 2023, 04:25 PM
parabellumNever heard of it
March 30, 2023, 04:39 PM
FredwardY'all ought to be charging tuition, there's so much info here.
March 30, 2023, 04:44 PM
parabellumskywag needs to understand that sometimes, you just know things. I just happened to know this one. On the other hand, I've never heard of "Google Lens".
Recently, I've had reason to do exhaustive image searches in the period of the mid-19th Century, and this came up for me in a recent search.
March 30, 2023, 06:53 PM
recoatliftI always say the obvious, so here goes again!
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March 31, 2023, 06:06 AM
arfmelquote:
Originally posted by hjs157:
What I find fascinating is the amount of wear the token displays. Based upon the condition, one may conclude these private tokens circulated concurrently with US minted legal tender coins.
Or it could have been someone’s “lucky token” carried daily for 30 years in a pocketful of change.
March 31, 2023, 08:22 AM
hjs157quote:
Originally posted by arfmel:
Or it could have been someone’s “lucky token” carried daily for 30 years in a pocketful of change.
I actually have two of these tokens in my possession; the second exhibiting more wear than the first. They were among a small number of mid-to-late 19th century coins I inherited from my mother. When I was young, I recall her telling me they had belonged to her grandfather who was born in 1850. At the time of his death in 1930, these coins would have had the buying power of ~$50 in today's currency.