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SIGforum's Berlin Correspondent |
It's rare for this kind of situation to be caught on (public) camera in Germany; much fewer such incidents to begin with, and police bodycam footage is not usually published. Once in a while you have some nutbag attacking a public figure with TV cameras watching, which happened to then-chancellor candidate Oskar Lafontaine of the Social Democrats while campaigning in 1990 with a knife-wielding woman, or somewhat more benignly to then-foreign minister Joschka Fischer of the Greens during a 1998 debate on German participation in the Kosovo War by a paint-throwing peace activist. Can't recall such an impressive Ruby-shoots-Oswald-style picture, though. What happened is that fairly well-known anti-Islam activist Michael Stürzenberger was livestreaming himself in downtown Mannheim, Baden-Württemberg, when some guy who clearly disagreed with his message stabbed him, a companion, and subsequently a police officer who intervened. Police then shot the attacker. Details so far unknown, though given that the first officer was stabbed in the neck, he is supposed to be seriously injured.This message has been edited. Last edited by: BansheeOne, | ||
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Help! Help! I'm being repressed! |
Prayers for the recovery of the victims. As a morbid aside...that's an awesome photo. | |||
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Crazy. Just to make sure I have the photo correct, Stürzenberger is in the blue jacket on the ground, the intervening officer on top of him, and the attacker on the far left in a green shirt. Correct? This space intentionally left blank. | |||
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Uppity Helot |
Hope the knife weilder winds up being the only one without a pulse. | |||
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SIGforum's Berlin Correspondent |
Not sure who is Stürzenberger. Video of the incident is on Twitter, showing the confusion; the first officer may have tackled the wrong guy, but seems not critically injured. The second acted exemplarily. Mostly leg wounds due to lots of wrestling, from the looks of it. https://x.com/i/status/1796485638742819253 | |||
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Made from a different mold |
Just so I’m clear BansheeOne, you and others like you consider Michael Stürzenberger a “RADICAL” because he doesn’t want the country he lives in taken over by inbreds with a penchant for violence? The same ones that have no desire to assimilate or otherwise become part of Germany? The same ones that hate Jews just for existing? Guess you forgot Cologne and all of the rapes/sexual assaults that happened. Guess it didn’t happen to you or yours, so you are okay with it? ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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The knife-wielding Islamo-fascist seems to prove Sturzenberger correct, rather than a "radical". How many times do we need to see this played out to know that Islamists do not need to be in charge of anything? Or even allowed to be a large minority? Anyone who has studied the Quran or the life of Muhammed knows that this is not a "religion of peace". The fact that they align themselves with the totalitarian Left in western cultures, and the Left willingly invites them into their club should be enough for any sane human being to restrict their entry into a civilized country. . | |||
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SIGforum's Berlin Correspondent |
I consider him a radical because he has stated that any Muslim who doesn't swear off his faith should be deported; not any Muslim immigrant, not any Muslim non-citizen, but any Muslim. I call that pretty radical, seeing as it contradicts the constitutional guarantee of religious freedom wholesale. And given that he has been thrown out of two subsequent conservative parties and been embroiled in a fight over direction in the right-wing Pax Europa group he is currently a member of for the last two years, those around him seem to agree. Incidentally, he has also pissed off Jewish groups because he opposes practices like male circumcision of minors and ritual butchering common to Judaism and Islam. And BTW other than a couple charges of popular incitement and disparaging religious groups, he has also been convicted for insulting a police officer. Since his rallies are typically directed more at an internet audience, and frequently include cursing passersby for showing no interest, I suspect he's more of a general crank who has found a pet issue that allows him to vent his spleen for a nominal purpose. | |||
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SIGforum Official Eye Doc |
The problem with Islam is it’s not just a religion-it’s an all-encompassing governing religious societal system. Muslims *will not* coexist with other religions or within a free society. They believe if one does not adopt Islam, they non-adopters are to be killed. So, in that sense, I believe he is not wrong in wanting all Muslim adherents out. Islam beliefs are a marked departure from other religions. Daily Mail contribution | |||
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Left-Handed, NOT Left-Winged! |
Cop didn't fire enough shots. The other cops didn't fire any. | |||
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Staring back from the abyss |
I call it pretty sane. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Damn, looks like he stabbed that cop in the neck https://x.com/jackposobiec/sta...513951402078370?s=46 | |||
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Altitude Minimum |
This guy may be a nutbag but Islam is a scourge on the face of the earth and will not assimilate with any western culture. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
Notice how timid those German cops are and one of them fires one single shot? Do they not teach that you fire at a threat until it is neutralized there? I wonder if this is due to a fear of the officer being prosecuted? | |||
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No ethanol! |
Perp did fall away and appear incapacitated. Cop stayed at the ready. We don't know where he was hit, or if there were civilians in background. I cannot question what went down on just this angle. ------------------ The plural of anecdote is not data. -Frank Kotsonis | |||
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Bolt Thrower |
I wonder if that cop learned anything from this, or has critical thinking been culled from the gene pool over there. | |||
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Not really from Vienna |
“Incidentally, he has also pissed off Jewish groups because he opposes practices like male circumcision of minors and ritual butchering common to Judaism and Islam. And BTW other than a couple charges of popular incitement and disparaging religious groups, he has also been convicted for insulting a police officer.” I don’t know anything about “popular incitement” but those other accusations sound very serious indeed. String him up. | |||
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From what I'm gathering, Stürzenberger is a more articulate Alex Jones-type of figure in Germany. On the surface he has a number of relevant points, however his statements about Islam are broadly sweeping, lumping any believer of the religion in with the same bucket as the Islamists and the stridently unassimilated. On the flip-side, Germany like many European countries have immigrant populations from Islamic countries that refuse to assimilate, governments have allowed enclaves to take root where those countries laws & rules don't apply or, are lightly enforced in a misguided effort to be 'culturally sensitive'. Criticism of these policies & actions is met with castigation, denunciation and public shaming with support via the media. Its no surprise that the pendulum-swing of public sentiment swings-hard and political parties like the AfD, Dutch Freedom party and French National Front (with news media working overtime to cast them as 'extremists') have found electoral success as current and sitting governments have either refused or, soft-peddled the issues. | |||
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goodheart |
There is a better description on Instapundit:
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Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. | |||
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