I'm still trying to get past how big that space was on a submarine...I bet they had flush toilets too...

I attended a captain's mast while my dad's destroyer was in port. I sat on the ASROC launcher, probably aged 12. My old man was the XO and the CO went through the proceedings and I heard words I'd never heard before out of my old man. A sailor showed up to mast with BLOOD on his dress whites...yeah, didn't go well for him.

I was a witness to two captains masts while on submarines. Granted, I was on fast attacks, so there was no area as large as you see in the video. Captains mast was held in the wardroom. Two noncommissioned witnesses were picked by the COB.

quote:

Originally posted by egregore:
Who filmed this and how did it get on YouTube?

I don't know how it got on Youtube, but reportedly at the previous Captain's Mast the guy claimed the CO was being racist, so the CO made the next hearing open and filmed it, so that there would be plenty of both live and video witnesses to attest to his impartiality. (Plus, I'm sure, to cause the schmuck some public humiliation as additional consequences. And to have something to show at the Xmas party, of course.)

It's easy to miss, but at 3:20 you can hear the guy rip a fart while the CO is reading the charges.

And watch the faces of the guys in the audience. Lots of knowing glances, with stern expressions but hands over mouths, stifling grins and giggles. Looks very much like a group of cops sitting in the back of a courtroom, trying to maintain their composure while the defendant makes a total idiot of themselves.

The way the rest of the crew was looking at Seaman Recruit Cluster Fuck, I would not be surprised if Cluster was subject to blanket parties or a float test. Of course with the new Navy, Cluster is now a DEI Instructor and Compliance Officer.

It is almost possible, he was trying to rack up violating as many of the UCMJ Article as he could.....I don't believe that this is a Guinness Book of World Records one wants.

This was ~22 years ago in 2001, before the days of DEI.

22 years and 2 days Tuesday.

I was US Army and never served in the Navy much less a submarine... But I cannot believe that the captain allowed this (blankety blank) to stand before him in such a state of undress and improper uniform... This defendant has no place in the military and if his motive was to be released then he should be booted off this assignment then totally out of the military imedately with a less than honorable discharge. ...... drill sgt.

I don't recall seeing that level of disrespect in a military setting. But I was never in the service but was in DoD contracting a long time and never saw anything close to that. Good lord.

quote:

Originally posted by drill sgt:
if his motive was to be released then he should be booted off this assignment then totally out of the military imedately with a less than honorable discharge.

He was eventually taken off the boat, which I assume was followed by a negative discharge.

But they were reportedly underway on a mission at the time, and one guy's shenanigans wasn't a good enough reason for them to alter/delay that. Even when he started banging on the hull in his "cell" (a storage area) with a pipe to try and give their position away. Yes, I'm serious... listen to the podcast. Unsurprisingly, he reportedly continued his bullshit even while in confinement after the captain's mast, by defecating on himself, peeing on the floor in his cell to that the urine dripped down onto the tables in the mess below, banging on the hull, etc. Typical jailhouse "I don't give a fuck" acting-out, just on a submarine.

Plus, for someone who wants to get kicked off the boat and out of the service, making them linger on the boat and in the service is just an additional punishment.

quote:

Originally posted by RogueJSK:
This was ~22 years ago ....

That’s a full military career plus some. I can’t help but wonder if he ever thinks about how life today might be better if he had chosen differently then.

Dishonorable discharges are pretty rare and can be imposed only for very serious offenses. But there were/are plenty of other ways to send someone like that on his way.

Added.
Out of curiosity and having a vague memory of “hazarding a vessel,” I checked online, and sure enough, there’s Article 110 of the UCMJ that makes that an offense, and a serious one at that.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/910

Depending on previous case law, charging that offense for using a pipe to make noise to reveal the submarine’s position might be a stretch in more or less peacetime, but if I were the prosecutor I’d certainly consider it.

That video and the podcast were amusing.

I guess they don’t keel haul anymore

Seaman Shitbird was awarded a Big Chicken Dinner at the least, I hope.

I am surprised there wasn’t a torpedo tube accident.