I have to wonder how this individual ever made it on a US Nuclear submarine. What is a seaman recruit? What is a seaman apprentice?

I've never been in the Navy, is this normal for a Captain's mast? This level of audience?

This is something I would expect to see in a comedy around the Navy like Down Periscope, but not on a real combat vessel.

Seems like this guy would be a candidate to be loaded into a torpedo tube and discharged from the US Navy.

Seaman Recruit is an E-1. Initial enlisted rank upon entering the Navy (or Coast Guard). Seaman Apprentice is the rank of E-2. Seaman is E-3. My guess is that this guy at one point was a Seaman (E-3) and has been busted down to E-1 at previous NJP (Non Judicial Punishment ie Captain's Mast) for some other misconduct.

Been a long time since I was on a ship (1982-84) and I attended a couple of Captain's Mast but they were pretty minor infractions and normally only had the Captain, the accused individual, their Dept Head, and perhaps an enlisted advocate for the accused individual present.

Sounds like this guy was having a very rough cruise having been to Captain's Mast 3 days in a row.

I imagine the Skipper is trying to allow more witnesses in order to make an example out of this particular guy.

Half a month's pay fine for 2 months is fairly standard type punishment, 3 days confinement with bread and water is fairly stiff. Looks like this guy has been a major disruption to this ship and its crew. He clearly still doesn't quite get the message with that deliberately slow salute when being dismissed. I don't see a long career in the Navy for this sailor.

Can’t say how old the video - but nowadays, as long as he doesn’t end up in the brig after formal charges, he’ll be reassigned as a yeoman someplace and then finish out his contract. Just not allowed to re enlist.

Old video. Btw, There is no brig on Submarines. If there were ever to need to detain someone, they would be held in an empty bunk room or small space deemed by the COB with a sentry until the person could be taken off the boat either by small boat or helo transfer. How he made it through screening and sub school will remain a mystery to the ages.

This guy has to be mental or something. In the Army we called people who looked like shit in uniform "rag bags".

The seaman is obviously an untrained moron. How did he ever get through Basic Training (or whatever that is called in the Navy). and get approved for service? Perhaps there was an element of "social promotion?"

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How to ruin a Navy Career in 2 days

I don't know how long he'd been in by the time this video was made, but I can guarantee this guy spent most of that time "ruining his career".

Not a chance this was his 1st NJP(Captains Mast) either...

For the question on the audience size, Commanding Officers can opt to have an "open mast" so the crew can witness the proceedings. This is sometimes done for a particularly serious case or one that is a teaching moment. No Sailor of mine would ever be presented in a uniform in that condition. Also, something is odd about those service dress whites. E6 and below don't wear a buttoned jacket, but rather a pullover jumper-style top, sometimes referred to as "crackerjacks". The basic design has not changed in decades, except a switch to blue piping in 2018, as far as I know.

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Originally posted by architect:
The seaman is obviously an untrained moron.

Not even close.
He has had access to the engineering spaces of an Ohio class ballistic missile submarine. That makes him a nuke and he is pretty damn smart. ASVAB score in the top 90s smart. Think Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang Theory smart. Having intelligence and applying intelligence are not the same.

I sent home a few nukes during boot camp for failure to adjust. They just could not function in a military society. I'm guessing that his social skills set put him at odds with the rest of his division and they fucked with him until his reactions put him in the command's spotlight. From there it is just crossing the Ts and dotting the Is and he will be sent to the surface navy.

How are this Sailor's NCO's even letting him approach the Captain with his junk hanging out like that? There has to be way more to this story.

It seems really hard to believe he’s a nuke.

Nukes do tend to be eccentric, though. Meet lots of them around Charleston.

For those who want to know more, Episode 22 of the Bravo Zulu podcast includes a retelling of these events from a sailor who was present on the USS Wyoming, and includes some more of the backstory as well as the aftermath.

You can listen here: https://www.listennotes.com/po...armando-i7bKcprH4vf/

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Originally posted by wxdave:
Also, something is odd about those service dress whites.

He tore them down the middle, both the top and the bottom.

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Originally posted by Augen:
Just not allowed to re enlist.

I'm certain that that will just break his heart.

I had a buddy who got a bar to reenlistment and was able to get an honorable early out. This kid should look into that and get on with his life. Clearly the military ain't for him.

That's easily the most extreme case of insubordination I've seen at a Captain's Mast. I guess the pressure of being inside a metal tube for extended periods of time creates a lot of mental stress with no adequate outlet available. And I've never seen the accused brought before the skipper dressed like that. What a disgrace to the uniform and the NJP proceedings.

When I was in 30 years ago, squadron skippers had leeway to conduct NJP hearings however they wanted. Captain's Mast in front of the entire squadron wasn't unheard of, but were rare since skippers were sometimes counter-accused of publicly berating and humiliating the accused. This got the Wing Commander involved with an investigation.

When I was the Aircraft DivO in my first squadron I was present at Mast fairly often with some of my guys. At least I wasn't the Line DivO - my good friend seemed to have a permanently-reserved place at EVERY Captain's Mast with his guys. Our first skipper would not only chew out the guy going to Mast but us and the Chiefs as well for not providing the proper leadership needed to keep our guys out of trouble. Fair enough, I suppose. But we still defended the character of our guys in an attempt to keep the punishment light which the skipper never liked. Word got around quickly that the skipper was berating the DivO's and Chiefs at Mast just like the junior E's. Funny how I rarely had any issues with the planes I flew, but the skipper seemed to go through periods of difficulty getting airborne due to mechanical issues in the chocks prior to flying.

An interesting situation occurred a couple of times immediately after Mast: I got out of my khaki's and put on a flight suit to brief a flight that the skipper was in. After chewing my ass not 15 minutes prior, here we were in a brief about to fly a training mission together. It was an interesting endeavor in compartmentalization to put aside my personal dislike for a senior officer who, besides his sarcastic mean streak at Mast, was not a good pilot.

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Originally posted by SpinZone:

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Originally posted by architect:
The seaman is obviously an untrained moron.

Not even close.
He has had access to the engineering spaces of an Ohio class ballistic missile submarine. That makes him a nuke and he is pretty damn smart. ASVAB score in the top 90s smart. Think Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang Theory smart. Having intelligence and applying intelligence are not the same.

I sent home a few nukes during boot camp for failure to adjust. They just could not function in a military society. I'm guessing that his social skills set put him at odds with the rest of his division and they fucked with him until his reactions put him in the command's spotlight. From there it is just crossing the Ts and dotting the Is and he will be sent to the surface navy.

No way a Seaman Recruit/Seaman Apprentice/Seaman is a Nuke. A Nuke on an submarine would be at least an E4, and probably an E5. Having access to engineering spaces does not equal to being a nuke. All crewmembers have access to engineering spaces-it's part of earning one's dolphins.

So, unless he is a nuke already busted down in rank, not necessarily the "sharpest knife in the drawer."

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
It seems really hard to believe he’s a nuke.

Nukes do tend to be eccentric, though. Meet lots of them around Charleston.

Likely not a nuke but an A-ganger at best: non-nuke machinist mate. Could've also been a torpedo man, mess specialists, yeoman, etc....
Sounds like this guy has little emotional control, is generally disorganized (continued to misplace is Personal Radiation Device) PRD) and unable to function in a structured environment. We all know shitbirds get through recruit training but, once out into the fleet, all sorts of idiocy can happen and exacerbate their stupidity, consider that idiot who ran over the DMZ into North Korea.

Edit- This guy is either a mess specialist (cook) or, because he's so new, he was assigned to the galley; no rating on his sleeve, undesignated. Not sure how it is today but, I recall cooks having amongst the lowest achievable ASVAB scores.

Reportedly an undesignated sailor who had failed his quals, working in mess prep and trash disposal (a "crank").

Basically sounds like a disgruntled shitbag who was desperate to get kicked off the boat and out of the navy.

It's a good thing he was wearing underwear. I am surprised the Captain didn't make him wear something else on his lower half. I don't think I would have sat there with his jockey shorts in my face.

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Originally posted by corsair:

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
It seems really hard to believe he’s a nuke.

Nukes do tend to be eccentric, though. Meet lots of them around Charleston.

Likely not a nuke but an A-ganger at best: non-nuke machinist mate. Could've also been a torpedo man, mess specialists, yeoman, etc....
Sounds like this guy has little emotional control, is generally disorganized (continued to misplace is Personal Radiation Device) PRD) and unable to function in a structured environment. We all know shitbirds get through recruit training but, once out into the fleet, all sorts of idiocy can happen and exacerbate their stupidity, consider that idiot who ran over the DMZ into North Korea.

Edit- This guy is either a mess specialist (cook) or, because he's so new, he was assigned to the galley; no rating on his sleeve, undesignated. Not sure how it is today but, I recall cooks having amongst the lowest achievable ASVAB scores.

It’s a TLD, not a PRD.

Thermoluminescent dosimeter…

I was a Nuke MM ELT.

And, of course, this guy was NOT a nuke.

Who filmed this and how did it get on YouTube?