_____________________________________________ I may be a bad person, but at least I use my turn signal.
November 06, 2017, 06:57 PM
JDHunz
She did everything She believed needed to be done to win.
Hubris, brothers, is a word invented by a bunch of ancient white guys in dresses to describe Clinton.[/QUOTE]
Don’t forget that other word they invented for her...NEMESIS...
___________________________ "Those that can't laugh at themselves leave the job to others..."
November 06, 2017, 07:22 PM
pbslinger
Yes dems, your party leaders are so stupid they can't even correctly determine if their candidate can win. They picked a loser, ran all the scenarios and concluded shillary was a sure winner. And their ability to govern is even worse.
I'll assume there were elements in the party that wanted to pull the plug on her (besides donna who appears impotent) and slide in biden, or maybe they are even dumber than I think they are and they were all sure she would win in a landslide.
November 06, 2017, 08:27 PM
jsawyer09
quote:
Originally posted by JDHunz: She did everything She believed needed to be done to win.
Hubris, brothers, is a word invented by a bunch of ancient white guys in dresses to describe Clinton.
Don’t forget that other word they invented for her...NEMESIS...[/QUOTE]
AH, I see what you did there...
November 06, 2017, 08:50 PM
Ozarkwoods
I would love to see the Clintons punch back with all the dirt they have on the DNC, and all of the high level democrats, then watch them and the democratic ship sink with the foamy shit scum slide away from the US shore with the tide never to be seen again.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
November 06, 2017, 09:39 PM
Lord Vaalic
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Originally posted by Tuckerrnr1:
That is awesome
Don't weep for the stupid, or you will be crying all day
November 06, 2017, 09:54 PM
Il Cattivo
^^^ That's exactly what Donna said.
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Originally posted by deepocean: One day Tulsi Gabbard will eclipse them all.
Originally posted by pbslinger: ...or maybe they are even dumber than I think they are and they were all sure she would win in a landslide.
Some of them actually believed that. No, really. If you're ever feeling kinda schadenfreudy, go looking for some of the sniveling stuff the liberals wrote. There were a few of them who wrote that a big part of their disappointment was that they thought it was inevitable; that after eight years of Obama they'd reached a historic turning point and that Hill's election would be the beginning of an era where progressive policies would be "the new normal".
November 06, 2017, 11:11 PM
oddball
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum: Drama queen
But keep it coming, lady
She's appearing on Tucker Carlson's show this Wed.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
November 07, 2017, 08:11 AM
pbslinger
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Originally posted by Il Cattivo: ^^^ That's exactly what Donna said.
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Originally posted by deepocean: One day Tulsi Gabbard will eclipse them all.
Originally posted by pbslinger: ...or maybe they are even dumber than I think they are and they were all sure she would win in a landslide.
Some of them actually believed that. No, really. If you're ever feeling kinda schadenfreudy, go looking for some of the sniveling stuff the liberals wrote. There were a few of them who wrote that a big part of their disappointment was that they thought it was inevitable; that after eight years of Obama they'd reached a historic turning point and that Hill's election would be the beginning of an era where progressive policies would be "the new normal".
I was referring to the dem powerbrokers, which includes the establishment, not voters. I know what the voters thought and they still haven't gotten over it. They still hang on every dem scheme that gives them some hope, Madison electors, emollients clause, Russia, the dossier, Mueller, and even have faith in m. waters.
November 07, 2017, 10:54 AM
Il Cattivo
Oh, the power brokers thought the same way. Notice how many of them there were that abandoned Hill after the air went out of her balloon.
Besides, in the Dem party, Lena Dunham counts as a power broker.
November 07, 2017, 11:22 AM
Gustofer
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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
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Originally posted by deepocean: One day Tulsi Gabbard will eclipse them all.
interview Katy Kur w Terry McAuliffe (present gov VA)
KATY TUR, MSNBC: I want to ask you about Donna Brazile and the allegations that are coming out in her new book. There’s a lot of people on both sides of the issue here saying that the DNC is completely rigged. There are other saying it’s not rigged at all, this is completely just the way politics works and people are making too a big deal over it. The fact of the matter is it’s in the news, it’s casting a negative spotlight on the Democratic party. I mean, you have to have some concern about how that’s going to play out in Virginia. Correct?
McAuliffe: Nobody cares.
TUR: Nobody cares? Let’s listen to Donna Brazile. One more time on This Week.
McAwful: Nobody cares what’s Donna Brazile has said in a book. Nobody.
TUR: You don’t think anybody cares about her story?
McAwful: Nobody cares. You know what they care about? They care about beating Donald Trump tomorrow, they care about beating Ed Gillespie.
November 07, 2017, 12:17 PM
chellim1
Donna Brazile pulls the pin on the Seth Rich grenade By Thomas Lifson
Donna Brazile wanted only to rehabilitate herself and cash in on writing the first tell-all from the Clinton inner circle. But she knew they have unpleasant ways of making problems go away, so she needed some insurance against the worst sorts of retaliation. Her cryptic mentions of Seth Rich and subsequent refusal to elaborate on the subject may be a signal that killing her would set off mutual destruction.
Over the weekend, she confirmed that we crazy right-wing conspiracy nuts were correct in our worst suspicion: Seth Rich, it was reasonable to suspect, had leaked the DNC emails to WikiLeaks and was rubbed out to send a message to other canaries who might get in the way of Hillary's juggernaut. The killer(s) left his valuables behind, signaling that this was no robbery gone bad.
At the time, Brazile got the message. She shut her mouth and followed instructions, even shaming people who shared her worries about the murderous ruthlessness:
Seth Rich was a hard worker and proud to be an American. This desire to scar Seth's legacy to his country and party is shameful. https://t.co/2cw5GZOYXO
— Donna Brazile (@donnabrazile) May 21, 2017
Now she implies that she admits she shared our right-wing conspiracy nut fears about the possibly murderous nature of the Clinton Machine. Saturday, the Washington Post published this from her pending book:
Brazile writes that she was haunted by the still-unsolved murder of DNC data staffer Seth Rich and feared for her own life, shutting the blinds to her office window so snipers could not see her and installing surveillance cameras at her home.
The following day, when she was providing video, she spoke in code, telling George Stephanopoulos (transcript):
They don't know what it was like to be over at the DNC during this hacking. They don't know what it's like to bury a child. I did, Seth Rich.
She declined to say anything more on her mention of Rich's name, even after a follow-up question, thus leaving the message in code. She even backed away a little, blaming her fear of Trump supporters when Stephanopoulos asked a follow-up question.
Unless she is an utter fool, evidence of serious crime is secreted somewhere with an auto-release arrangement upon her death.
The Democrat house media are ignoring this aspect of Brazile's revelations, emphasizing the "rigging" charge, as Rick Moran points out. This leaves the story confined to the conservative media, in effect, meaning no serious damage to the Clintons. They have nothing to lose in this sector of the media. We are the kooks who already hate them.
So Brazile is being edged toward the label of "kook." Richard F. Goodstein, a big-time D.C. Dem lawyer, took on the job on Tucker Carlson's program last night. His very first comment made a lawyerly distinction:
I don't know whether Donna Brazile is a kook, but what she says is kooky in the book. Let me give you an example.
Carlson sparred with him, but Goodsteun returned to his talking point example:
This is certifiably nuts. If the political director, the communications director – excuse me, the political director, the communications director, the digital director, you can go on and on and on, or women for Hillary. The notion that somehow the Hillary Clinton campaign couldn't countenance strong woman is crazy.
Goodstein has introduced "kook" and "nuts" with Brazile and said nothing about the Seth Rich issue. His example is highly debatable, and Tucker takes him on. The video is below and fun to watch to see the memes being test-marketed:
This is but the first stage of throwing Brazile under the bus. But she's got that grenade, so let's see what follows.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
November 07, 2017, 12:26 PM
pbslinger
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Originally posted by pbslinger:
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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught: The may have finally passed their political expiration date.
A pretty good take on the situation - it is all about regaining the Bernie Bros back into Dem Land...
Donna Brazile: Everything Said About Clinton’s Control Over DNC Was True…
Former interim DNC Chairwoman Donna Brazile has penned an article in Politico laying out brutal sunlight upon the Clinton control over the DNC and how the party apparatus was used by the Clinton campaign in the 2016 election. Essentially, every complaint held by Bernie Sanders and his supporters is confirmed.
Brazile’s expose’ highlights a desperate financial arrangement between the DNC and Clinton campaign that began in September of 2015 when the DNC signed an agreement with the Clinton campaign to allow team Hillary control over the DNC in exchange for monthly funding toward keeping the party solvent. Structurally the DNC was near collapse and was still holding massive debt from Obama’s 2012 campaign efforts.
In exchange for the financial underwriting Clinton not only controlled the DNC through the entire primary election process against Bernie Sanders, the DNC agreed to allow Team Clinton to use their national and state funding mechanisms to bypass individual legal campaign donation limits.
In essence the DNC was used as a money laundering clearinghouse, funneling money to the Hillary campaign by positioning donors to exceed campaign limits through funding the state and national (victory fund) accounts, who, in turn, transferred the majority of that money to the campaign.
The bottom line in the expose’ is that everything previously claimed by Team Bernie, and denied by the DNC, was actually happening. The 2016 Democrat primary election was a complete con, a fraud.
The DNC was under the control of the Clinton Campaign and the 2016 Democrat primary election outcome was rigged. Yes, Donna Brazile names names and outlines the entire fraudulent and corrupt DNC construct.
But why now?
Why deliver the truth now?
Why throw Hillary Clinton under the bus now?
The answers to those questions are transparently obvious. Remember, the Democrat party is a top down ‘elitist’ structural political apparatus. Democratic party leadership are brutal, authoritarian and dictatorial.
Control is held by an elite few, “the insiders” that control everything. The sheeple masses are well below the Democrat structural systems of electoral governance and campaigning; the party base is considered “useful idiots” by those in power. This is their traditional structure.
There was obviously and agreement between Team Hillary Clinton and the DNC Party control agents toward the timing. Wait until Hillary can finish her book tour and then throw her, knowingly, under the bus. It’s the type of quid-pro-quo the party is famous for. It’s also how they reset things.
The previous article in the Washington Post outlining the connection between the DNC and Clinton Camp in the funding for the Fusion GPS ‘Russian Dossier’ was the first evidence that Clinton was on the path toward the cliff [with the Golden Parachute to ensure a soft collaborative landing].
Donna Brazile’s outline and sunlight is part of a process to reset the party and retrieve the wounded Bernie Sanders supporters back into the fold. Don’t worry, the Bernie team will fall for the Machievellian strategy hook, line and sinker. Unfortunately, they are generally herd-minded and need top-down instructions. It takes a village etc..
A united strategy and, more importantly, an agreement between current DNC Chair Tom Perez, Co-Chair Keith Ellison, Team Barack Obama, Team Hillary Clinton and the professional party national apparatus people like Donna Brazile is clearly in play.
This is their attempt at a party reset to give the illusion of a return to “grass roots”, power to the people, etc.
It is all a ruse, it’s simply optics and re-branding…. but they need to present something substantial so that it doesn’t look like optics and re-branding… that’s where throwing Hillary Clinton under the bus comes in. Ending the era of Clinton, regardless of how brutal that appears on the surface, is part of a coordinated strategy agreed to by Team Clinton.
That’s just how Democrat’s roll.
Timed to happen in the lead in to the holiday season just ahead of the 2018 primary races is coordinated and planned by all of the participants. The goal is to get the Bernie people, who are genuinely the grassroots of the far-left, activated and back into the Democrat Party Apparatus. The only alternative would have been dissolution of the party and the formation of a new Democrat party; but that would be too challenging.
The article by Brazile is simply part of a plan to reset and re-brand the Democrat Party. Clinton is removed, and President Obama will be leveraged toward rebuilding the internal coalition of progressives to include the Bernie Crew. In exchange for his participation, Obama will get a fully funded library and a life-long personal endowment. The sheeple masses remain as they are…
That this is a coordinated DNC "reset" intended to bring Bernie voters back, is verified if shillary slinks off into the night. If shillary doesn't go away, this theory is all wet. Can she go away? Is she capable of living a life of obscurity?
It is starting to look like the theory espoused in the linked article that this is a dem party reset and flushing shillary down the stool appears to be untrue. They are defending shillary and attacking the donna.
November 07, 2017, 12:30 PM
46and2
I'm no real fan of Donna, but she's 10x the woman compared to Hillary, and it's nothing but the rules of polite society and politics that keep the Donnas of the world from simply kicking the shit out of the Hillarys of the world.
♬♬♫♪But you turned me out baby (you dropped a bomb on me) Baby, you dropped a bomb on me♬♬♫♪
“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams
