A question to the FFLS here

September 01, 2017, 05:19 PM

Ronin1069

?

Are you asking if a FFLS needs to run a background check on the receiver of a gun you are shipping him?

That seems like a red flag question.

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September 01, 2017, 05:20 PM

mrvmax

quote:
Originally posted by Bulldog7972:
Does you to run a namecheck on the buyer of a gun?

Could someone please translate this for me?

September 01, 2017, 05:43 PM

Sig2340

In Virginia, the buyer must complete form 4473 and in Virginia, form SP65A, provide a valid government issued photo-ID issued by the Commonwealth, undergo the instant background check, and have it return approved before the buyer takes possession.

So, yes. We do a name check. And a criminal history, and more.

Why do you ask?

September 01, 2017, 05:47 PM

RogueJSK

September 01, 2017, 05:52 PM

ZSMICHAEL

Maybe Bendable can help out here.

September 01, 2017, 07:34 PM

dry-fly

Umm, yeah..

September 01, 2017, 08:06 PM

S600MBUSA

I seem to recall Bulldog is LE. Perhaps asking if an FFL can help him find who originally bought a gun that he's come across in an investigation?

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September 01, 2017, 09:07 PM

Bulldog7972

My bad Sorry. I want to know how much it costs a FFL to do a background check on the purchaser of a gun.

September 02, 2017, 06:57 AM

Lt CHEG

quote:
Originally posted by Bulldog7972:
My bad Sorry. I want to know how much it costs a FFL to do a background check on the purchaser of a gun.

It doesn't cost anything to run a NICS check. An FFL can't just run them Willy nilly though. The person checked has to actually be buying a firearm. After the implementation of the (UN)SAFE act here in NY ATF and the FBI had to give FFL's permission to run background checks for other people for guns that they weren't running through their A&D books. Any costs that an FFL charges someone for a NICS check go straight to the dealer, they do not go to the government.

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September 02, 2017, 07:30 AM

V-Tail

quote:
Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
quote:
Originally posted by Bulldog7972:
My bad Sorry. I want to know how much it costs a FFL to do a background check on the purchaser of a gun.
It doesn't cost anything to run a NICS check. An FFL can't just run them Willy nilly though. The person checked has to actually be buying a firearm. After the implementation of the (UN)SAFE act here in NY ATF and the FBI had to give FFL's permission to run background checks for other people for guns that they weren't running through their A&D books. Any costs that an FFL charges someone for a NICS check go straight to the dealer, they do not go to the government.

There's a five dollar fee for a background check here in Florida. This is in addition to any transfer fee that the FFL might charge. Based on what you're saying, I conclude that ours is a state fee, not a federal one.

September 02, 2017, 08:07 AM

Sig2340

Virginia charges a $2 resident and $5 nonresident fee, and makes the licensee collect it and turn it in to the State Police.

September 02, 2017, 08:21 AM

lyman

quote:
Originally posted by Sig2340:
Virginia charges a $2 resident and $5 nonresident fee, and makes the licensee collect it and turn it in to the State Police.

yep,

and they bill you promptly,
reminds me I gotta get a check out to them Tuesday

keep in mind, Va is a POC state, as in the State Police is the Point Of Contact, not FBI/NICS,

as in we either call you in, or do a VChek online to get the approval,

September 02, 2017, 11:35 AM

EmpireState

Is this for a FTF sale that you are planning that you just want to verify the buyer is ok? If so, the Illinois state police has a form online that you enter the person's foid card number and it gives you a form to print with an authorization number. Not sure if that is an official background check or what though. Otherwise, I would assume that an FFL would charge whatever their transfer fee is....plus the 3 day wait.

September 02, 2017, 12:22 PM

mark60

quote:
Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
quote:
Originally posted by Bulldog7972:
My bad Sorry. I want to know how much it costs a FFL to do a background check on the purchaser of a gun.

It doesn't cost anything to run a NICS check. An FFL can't just run them Willy nilly though. The person checked has to actually be buying a firearm. After the implementation of the (UN)SAFE act here in NY ATF and the FBI had to give FFL's permission to run background checks for other people for guns that they weren't running through their A&D books. Any costs that an FFL charges someone for a NICS check go straight to the dealer, they do not go to the government.

As a NY FFL any gun transaction that goes through me has to go in my book. Private party sales go from seller to me to buyer, everything gets logged.