India Declines US' Offer, Won't Join NATO+ Ahead of PM Modi Visit

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India has clarified that it has no intention of joining the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), stating that the military alliance is not suitable for India. The statement came from External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar during a press conference in New Delhi. This comes after a powerful Congressional Committee in the United States recommended strengthening NATO Plus by including India. However, India rejected the proposal, emphasizing that the NATO template does not apply to the country.

The US believes that India should join NATO in order to safeguard its boundaries from neighboring China and to strengthen global security against Chinese aggression in the Indo-Pacific region. The Congressional Committee recommended including India in NATO Plus to enhance defense cooperation and intelligence sharing among allied nations. They argued that bringing India on board would also allow the country to access advanced military technology more efficiently. In contrast, India believes that it is capable of countering any Chinese aggression on its own.

The geographical separation between the two countries by the Himalayan region makes it currently impossible for China to pose a direct threat to India. Additionally, India pointed out that China is currently facing an economic crisis, with declining exports and imports, indicating a slowdown in the country's economic rebound. India's stance is based on its confidence in its own defense capabilities and its assessment of the geopolitical situation. The country believes it can effectively deal with any security challenges it faces and prefers to maintain its independent foreign policy rather than align itself with a military alliance like NATO.

National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan will visit India from June 13-14 in preparation for Prime Minister Narendra Modi's upcoming state visit to the United States. The visit highlights the growing importance of bilateral ties and aims to lay the groundwork for defense deals and technological collaborations. During Modi's visit to the US from June 21-24, significant defense agreements, including jet engine production and drone acquisition, are expected to be announced. These collaborations aim to strengthen India's defense capabilities and technological prowess, addressing regional challenges and solidifying India's position as a key partner for the United States.

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The US believes that India should join NATO in order to safeguard its boundaries from neighboring China...

India views China as a greater threat than any other nation save Pakistan.

The reason for NOT joining NATO Plus is it would piss the Chinese off massively.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:

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The US believes that India should join NATO in order to safeguard its boundaries from neighboring China...

India views China as a greater threat than any other nation save Pakistan.

The reason for NOT joining NATO Plus is it would piss the Chinese off massively.

India wants to be able to engage in trade with China and Russia as it sees fit and does not want NATO telling it what it can and can't do.

India and China have had wars in the Himalayan border region and the results show both were militarily incompetent.

I've been to India a few times and the "soldiers" guarding the airport and VIP's have terrible muzzle discipline with their subguns - like slung over a shoulder sweeping everyone they see, or sitting on a lap with the barrel pointed at the guy next to them.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
India wants to be able to engage in trade with China and Russia as it sees fit and does not want NATO telling it what it can and can't do.

India and China have had wars in the Himalayan border region and the results show both were militarily incompetent.

I've been to India a few times and the "soldiers" guarding the airport and VIP's have terrible muzzle discipline with their subguns - like slung over a shoulder sweeping everyone they see, or sitting on a lap with the barrel pointed at the guy next to them.

I can't speak to India's or China's military competence. Your points are valid but I think there is one additional point of view in play here. NATO has seemed like incompetent boobs in the Ukraine conflict. Europe is a joke at best. Now let's get to the leader of the free world and NATO. Joe Biden. Nuff said. Who in their right might with hitch their cart to that horse?

^^^ That would be countries near Russia that don't want to be invaded like Ukraine as we are seeing with Finland and maybe Sweden. They have a good reason regardless of current "leadership".

India has no real risk of Russian or Chinese invasion. How would anyone occupy and control a country with 1.4 billion people that can barely manage itself as it is?

Why would India even want to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?

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^^^ That would be countries near Russia that don't want to be invaded like Ukraine as we are seeing with Finland and maybe Sweden. They have a good reason regardless of current "leadership".

India has no real risk of Russian or Chinese invasion. How would anyone occupy and control a country with 1.4 billion people that can barely manage itself as it is?

Good point on invading India Lefty. A very difficult proposition at best. There's also that little thingy of India possessing nukes No matter what the reason they told NATO to fuck themselves for probably many reasons. Take care.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Why would India even want to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?

Turkey? Seems like NATO expanded a bit in the past. Of all the friends NATO has Turkey seems questionable at best. Seems like North Atlantic should be removed from the name.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
^^^ That would be countries near Russia that don't want to be invaded like Ukraine as we are seeing with Finland and maybe Sweden. They have a good reason regardless of current "leadership".

India has no real risk of Russian or Chinese invasion. How would anyone occupy and control a country with 1.4 billion people that can barely manage itself as it is?

Good point on invading India Lefty. A very difficult proposition at best. There's also that little thingy of India possessing nukes No matter what the reason they told NATO to fuck themselves for probably many reasons. Take care.

I dunno, the Brits seemed to have pulled it off.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Why would India even want to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?

Turkey? Seems like NATO expanded a bit in the past. Of all the friends NATO has Turkey seems questionable at best. Seems like North Atlantic should be removed from the name.

The Mediterranean Sea is part of the Atlantic Ocean. The North Atlantic even, as it's north of the Equator.

So technically, Turkey borders the North Atlantic.

India does not.

Next, they'll ask Australia to join in.

India knows we’d likely dive in to save their arse.

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Originally posted by Bytes:

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Originally posted by PASig:
Why would India even want to join the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?

Turkey? Seems like NATO expanded a bit in the past. Of all the friends NATO has Turkey seems questionable at best. Seems like North Atlantic should be removed from the name.

The Mediterranean Sea is part of the Atlantic Ocean. The North Atlantic even, as it's north of the Equator.

So technically, Turkey borders the North Atlantic.

India does not.

I forgot about that stretch of a geography lesson I was thinking that Turkey seemed like a good strategic launch point for nukes and that's why we they are in the NATO family. I'm just down on this NATO thing because it seems like zero strategic value to our interests. I'm definitely not throwing down on you Rogue.

If India does not want to join NATO them the UNITED STATES needs to butt out and stop trying to be the police force of the world.. And with the National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan making a visit to India what kind of sweet behind the back door deal is he going to offer to get India to change their mind and join NATO....................Question???? Is the United States still paying the dues for the USSR(Russia) as they were doing in the past and the dues not being re-paid????? And how many other countries have this same deal where the UNITED STATES is paying their dues from either reported funds or BLACK MONEY Accounts. ................... drill sgt.

After India got its independence from Britain, they aligned with the Soviet bloc. As a strong ally of their despised colonial overlords, the US was not an attractive ally for India, and so we got India's nemesis Pakistan as our 'ally' in that region.

That's semi-old history but to this day, according to Reuters India is Russia's largest arms customer. There's no reason for India to fear anything from Russia, nor to join an organization which has a definite possibility of wanting India's help defending territory they have no traditional interests in (Eastern Europe) against an opponent which fairly recently was an ally and a major arms supplier to them.

According to this page, NATO Plus members are obligated to defend member territory - which brings up possible scenarios wherein India would be committed to defend British interests...hard to imagine that anyone seriously thought India would go for this.

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India has clarified that it has no intention of joining the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), stating that the military alliance is not suitable for India.

Great! The United States should do the same.
When do we get to let Europe take care of Europe? We’ve been there for 80 years.

"NATO+"

Sounds like LGBTQABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP+++++++

Can we just stop with this shit and call it what it is?

Communists vs. Noncommunists.

BRICS is coming


And NATO wants to kick start WW3

India will be the next China. We need to be worried about her growing power (both economic and military), not to mention her growing population. It is probably not too early to consider India our greatest financial competitor for world markets.

India is a middle-state in the geo-political game. On one hand there's old colonial baggage which plays well to their domestic crowd, the other is culturally, India likes to keep all their options open and be able to play one side against the other, and attempt to secure the best deal. Western states like Australia, New Zealand, even Japan, South Korea and Singapore know that any further appeasement to China is simply playing with fire, whereas India can play it with little commitment.

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^^^ That would be countries near Russia that don't want to be invaded like Ukraine as we are seeing with Finland and maybe Sweden. They have a good reason regardless of current "leadership".

Instead of NATO, Eastern European countries would be better off joining & expanding The Visegrad Group. While the original four members have common cultural ties, they'd could with the right leadership expand to include a few other countries to include Ukraine, Finland & Baltics, where the common tie amongst all of them, is a threat from Russia. All of those countries over the last 300+ years have had to deal with the constant threat of Imperial Russia or, Soviet Russia. NATO is hamstrung by its Western most members either not being invested or, several being over-invested; some countries are more concerned with filling joint-military billets than actually heading operational units hungering for deployment.

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Originally posted by architect:
India will be the next China. We need to be worried about her growing power (both economic and military), not to mention her growing population. It is probably not too early to consider India our greatest financial competitor for world markets.

India doesn't have the transportation infrastructure nor, the port infrastructure to compete one-for-one. They're close but, they've got limitations that hamstring them.