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The Department of Homeland Security has put in a request to Trump Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to reassign IRS criminal investigators to perform deportation duties.
In her memo from last Friday, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem said she would like to use the IRS investigators to track down the financial dealings of human-traffickers who bring in illegals to take American jobs, according to the Wall Street Journal.
This is not the first time DHS has reached out to other agencies and asked them to assign help to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) for deportation duties. In a previous memo, the Department of Justice, the U.S. Marshals Service, and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms was also tasked with giving a helping hand to ICE.



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I am curious how skilled they would be. I know they take courses in how to audit farmers and businessmen. Every business is different. I think accountants who worked for the Mafia would be better,
 
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I am curious how skilled they would be. I know they take courses in how to audit farmers and businessmen. Every business is different. I think accountants who worked for the Mafia would be better,


They're borrowing some of the IRS Criminal Investigator Special Agents (GS-1811s), who are sworn federal law enforcement officers that perform criminal investigations, carry guns, build financial crime cases, and make arrests, and who go through the same federal agent training academy as the other federal criminal investigators from the other federal law enforcement agencies. These IRS LEOs are going to be assisting ICE with immigration arrests, just like quite a few of the other federal law enforcement agencies are doing currently.

They're not talking about the IRS Revenue Agents (GS-0512s), who are the government accountants that do audits of business and personal taxes, which is what you're thinking of. These "IRS Agents" are not law enforcement, and cannot make arrests or enforce criminal laws.
 
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Yes, I support this. Things change; situation, mission, timing, manpower etc...

Having a flexible multi-purpose force seems like a valuable asset. Kind of like US Army Infantry, maybe 20-40% on any given day are gainfully employed, but certainly not doing straight-up Infantry stuff.
 
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All hands on deck. This is likely (hopefully) to be a surge project vs. ongoing, so I'd be fine with most Federal LEOs other than Secret Service being considered potentially available for temporary duty to help out.

Personally I believe - once this gets going - that the surge of people trying to sneak in will dwindle, and a good chunk of the illegals here will take the hint and bug out on their own.

In that scenario, the need for the temporary help will ebb quickly and these LEOs will soon be able to get back to their regular work.
 
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They're not talking about the IRS Revenue Agents (GS-0512s), who are the government accountants that do audits of business and personal taxes, which is what you're thinking of. These "IRS Agents" are not law enforcement, and cannot make arrests or enforce criminal laws.

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Thanks for the clarification. The media as usual did a poor job in describing who would be going to the border,
 
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They're not talking about the IRS Revenue Agents (GS-0512s), who are the government accountants that do audits of business and personal taxes, which is what you're thinking of. These "IRS Agents" are not law enforcement, and cannot make arrests or enforce criminal laws.

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Thanks for the clarification. The media as usual did a poor job in describing who would be going to the border,


Biden Armed them to the teeth, in case They ran across some really tough tax evaders, Under The $750 billion Inflation Reduction Act. I can't find any figures on how many were in a LEO capacity vs agent/auditors.
 
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While they're at it, the Dept. of Education's, EPA"s and other SWAT teams aren't doing anything right now.
 
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Send them into combat with the cartels.


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While they're at it, the Dept. of Education's, EPA"s and other SWAT teams aren't doing anything right now.


Don't forget NOAA
 
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NOAA’s swat team is armed to the teeth with portable air conditioners to fight global warming

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Don't forget NOAA

That's SOP for DOAs from the FAA.
 
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The last I read the IRS has approximately 2000 sworn law enforcement agents.

They bought 700K in ammunition in 2022.

Send them out to use it.
 
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The last I read the IRS has approximately 2000 sworn law enforcement agents.

They bought 700K in ammunition in 2022.

Send them out to use it.


And?

That's only 350 rounds per LEO.

I guarantee that 95+% of the shooters here on this forum shoot more than 350 rounds per year.


Or did you mean $700k worth of ammunition? 9mm duty ammo is around $0.70 per round in bulk. So $700k would be around a million rounds, which is still just 500 per LEO.

Even if it was all training ammo, that'd still just be around 2 million rounds, or 1k per LEO. Split the difference and call it something like 750 per LEO.

That's not a large amount for annual rounds per officer. Especially since it's probably not shot up down to the last round each year. Even more so if they do quarterly qualifications/training shoots like many agencies. Or when factoring in new recruits going through the academy who will have a much higher round count than others that year. Or if the agency provides an annual allotment of personal training ammo to each officer for them to use on their own time, like my agency did at one time. Or especially if the agency is transitioning holsters, guns, and/or optics that year, with familiarization and transition training classes for every officer added on top.

Oh, and do those officers also have rifles? Well, that's twice as much ammo you need per officer. And it costs even more than 9mm ammo, further dragging down the rounds-per-officer count from that $700k.
 
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700,000 cases of ammunition or 700,000 rounds of ammunition? 700,000 rounds would be an impressive stockpile for an individual. Not so much for a decent sized agency.
 
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Instead of deportation, can we call it repatriation?


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I’m the door breacher for Walrus Team 6. When we’re done with our raid on Winchell’s, I’m available to help out with the deportations…..if I don’t have to run….or jump over fences.



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Wonder how long before an activist judge writes a TRO about using IRS to deport criminal illegal aliens? You know how concerned the democrats are about the 'rule of law' and all that.
 
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Don't forget NOAA

That's SOP for DOAs from the FAA.


I don’t think this guy is gonna make it




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Wonder how long before an activist judge writes a TRO about using IRS to deport criminal illegal aliens?


FYI, IANAL but ITYM a DCJ writing a TRO about the IRS assisting ICE ERO to deport UDAs to their COO. IIRC.
 
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