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60 Minutes Will Do a Story on the AR-15 or MSR

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November 04, 2018, 08:08 PM
Sgt Neutron
60 Minutes Will Do a Story on the AR-15 or MSR
According to the FBI, there were 374 deaths by rifle in 2016:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-t...ide-data-table-4.xls

According to the NHTSA, there were 3,450 deaths by distracted driving in 2016:

https://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-dr...g/distracted-driving

AR-15's aren't scary, this is:


November 04, 2018, 08:28 PM
TMats
^ Great post. ^


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November 04, 2018, 08:34 PM
12131
quote:
Originally posted by ASKSmith:
There are something like 11 million AR's registered in the US,...

Registered? Where? When?


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November 04, 2018, 08:34 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by ASKSmith:

They did a ballistics gel comparison between a .223 and 9mm.



Like comparing a dinghy to a racing sailboat. Roll Eyes


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November 04, 2018, 09:33 PM
HK Ag
That California University ballistics lab has nice taste in AR rifles, they were using an HK MR556 when they shot into the gelatin.

HK Ag
November 04, 2018, 10:01 PM
TexasScrub
Well that was biased, and the next story about Cruz/Beto was extremely biased. I didn't think it'd be any different, then I saw a Bloomberg commercial where he said he was bi-partisan, and knew I'd ventured into the twilight zone.


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He looked like an accountant or a serial-killer type. Definitely one of the service industries.
November 05, 2018, 01:05 AM
KMitch200
Per CBS, AR boolits are FAST! and DEADLY!
Nothing in any other firearm comes close to the whopping power of the 223/5.56.
Should make a great brown bear and elk round if CBS is to be believed. Roll Eyes


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November 05, 2018, 02:16 AM
airsoft guy
quote:
Originally posted by KMitch200:
Per CBS, AR boolits are FAST! and DEADLY!
Nothing in any other firearm comes close to the whopping power of the 223/5.56.
Should make a great brown bear and elk round if CBS is to be believed. Roll Eyes


Only if you want to vaporize the poor creature!



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November 05, 2018, 05:41 AM
chessiedog1
I love how the lab compared the damage to a FMJ 9 mm round. They gave no hard numbers or facts. Like the one already posted here. Rifles account for a small percentage of firearms deaths.


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November 05, 2018, 07:37 AM
Elk Hunter
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by ASKSmith:

They did a ballistics gel comparison between a .223 and 9mm.



Like comparing a dinghy to a racing sailboat. Roll Eyes


Well, as I recall, l"they" did a competition evaluation between the 5.56 and 30 cal for the military. Of course it was done with total objectivity. They used hollow points in the AR and full jacketed rounds in the M14 (?). Shooting at watermelons. The result was predictable.

And that farce was used to sell the M16 to the military. Of course there was no fraud or rigged tests to sell the M16s to the military. Done by the same political asshole whose MBAs said there was no need to have cleaning equipment for those weapons in Viet Nam. How many US troops died because that POS rusted to the point that it jammed in the middle of a fire fight, due to the rusted chambers?

We had a personal friend who was a general in the German army. He and his civilian boss came to see Robert McNamara over this issue. McNamara listened with a lot less than attention, and then semi-politely rejected their thoughts and essentially told them to piss off. Of course it was in McNamara's financial interests to make sure that the military bought a lot of those weapons.


Elk

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November 05, 2018, 07:43 AM
Eponym
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
I missed it. Oh darn.
Me, too. Oh shoot, I mean shucks. Roll Eyes
November 05, 2018, 07:47 AM
Elk Hunter
quote:
Originally posted by KMitch200:
Per CBS, AR boolits are FAST! and DEADLY!
Nothing in any other firearm comes close to the whopping power of the 223/5.56.
Should make a great brown bear and elk round if CBS is to be believed. Roll Eyes


Not to mention elephants, rhinos, lions, tigers, blue whales.


Elk

There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour)

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. "
-Thomas Jefferson

"America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville

FBHO!!!



The Idaho Elk Hunter
November 05, 2018, 08:50 AM
lyman
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
quote:
Originally posted by ASKSmith:
There are something like 11 million AR's registered in the US,...

Registered? Where? When?



well,

they are reported to the ATF when built, by type

to collect the 11% tax on firearms, annually


not counted by serial number, just a total,



https://www.atf.gov/file/61481/download

making the ASSumption that is was the folks at CBS are referring to ?



https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/
November 05, 2018, 08:57 AM
Longbow_06
It's funny how they focus on the "Evil" black rifle, when AR doesn't stand for Assault Rifle in the first place.
I always call it Americas Rifle, to confuse the idiots.

Anyway... Participating in "Active Shooter" seminars, the one thing that stands out to me is that most of the LEO conducting the seminars are more concerned over the possible use of Semi-Auto Shotguns, over the use of the AR.
November 05, 2018, 09:23 AM
slosig
quote:
Originally posted by RNshooter:
Remember the words "in common use" when the next ban attempt happens. 11 million is pretty damned common.

Bruce

Note that while commie states may register ARs, Free states don’t. Even in Commiefornia, I’ll bet there are three to fifteen unregistered ARs for ever registered one. Featureless, whatever it takes to avoid registration until one can escape to Free America. If there are eleven million registered, there are probably a whole heck of a lot more than that in citizen hands...
November 05, 2018, 10:24 AM
Beanhead
I tried watching it but the one sided story took its toll on me.

Comparing a rifle cartridge to a pistol cartridge is shoddy journalism. It is time to bring back the fairness doctrine in which there would be an opposing story about why AR15 is useful and how the comparison was deceptive. Gee, see this fat person run slower than this fit runner? Well, duh!