God I really detest these goddamn things.

I don’t even think they are legal in some states, are they? Here in Pennsylvania they seem to be a thing.

Went over to a buddies house last night around 5:30 pm for his birthday, had two beers from 5:30 pm to 7 pm then stopped and we grilled and had steaks and then watched a movie and then I left around 10:45 PM

Hit one of these DUI checkpoints on my way home, they always ask “have you had anything to drink tonight?” And my response is always simply “No”. I’m not volunteering any information to them and the fact I had 2 beers nearly 4 hours prior is none of their business anyway.

He leans way into my car window clearly trying to smell me for alcohol. “How are we doing tonight? Had anything to drink tonight?”

I respond in the negative and then say something like “no, just hanging out at a friends house watching a movie, headed home now”

Without skipping a beat a cop quickly asks “oh, what movie?” To gauge my reaction and see if I was slurring I guess.

Told him we saw the movie Moonfall which was THE dumbest most ridiculous movie I’ve seen in years.

Satisfied, he told me to be on my way and handed me some DUI flyer.

How are these things even constitutional? I’m all for keeping drunk drivers off the road but this kind of fascist crap really pisses me off.

Several years ago, the Supreme Court ruled them constitutional. Like you, I despise them. I got stopped on a state road several years ago between the Talladega track and a really great catfish place.

The officer saw my Holiday Inn key laying on the console and asked how I liked the old place. He stuck his flashlight way into the van and I think it might have been one of the sniffer kind.

He let us pass finally.

Statistically a drunk driver drives around 60 times before they are caught. With the legalization of Marijuana in many states, I imagine it is higher now.

Here , they are " Insurance Checkpoints ." It's legal to check license , Insurance , Inspection sticker . And if you happen to be impaired ...

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Originally posted by maxwayne:
Several years ago, the Supreme Court ruled them constitutional. Like you, I despise them. I got stopped on a state road several years ago between the Talladega track and a really great catfish place.

The officer saw my Holiday Inn key laying on the console and asked how I liked the old place. He stuck his flashlight way into the van and I think it might have been one of the sniffer kind.

He let us pass finally.

This is illegal- he cannot break the plane without PC or an invitation. As a retired LEO, I would have told him exactly that.

Yeah, it's another intrusive policy under the pretense of keeping you safe. The leftist would like nothing more than to be allowed to keep you safe...all of their policy goals can be accomplished under that metric.

I've never come across one of these in over 50 years of driving.

Many years ago now, my daughter (aged early 20's and very attractive, got stopped regularly. Never got a ticket or anything. But her response was not encouraging to them.

I’ve not seen one in years. But if I do I would not answer any questions. I’d just say I don’t answer questions and can I go. Not trying to pull any sovereign citizen shit but no answer is good. You lied by saying no, technically.

I can see people arguing that if you are sober there is no reason to not answer. But there is no reason to answer. If you’ve had drinks it’s best to not say a word also.

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I don’t even think they are legal in some states, are they?

Not in Texas, and rightfully so.

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How are these things even constitutional?

Not in my opinion.

I would refuse to answer all questions and just keep repeating, "Am I free to go or are you detaining me?" No good can come from playing 20 questions with a cop at a DUI checkpoint.

When I drove for Uber and Lyft years ago, I had plenty of fares who were suspended due to DUI. All of them told me there are no more deals being offered for DUI charges in Phoenix, as Uber and Lyft are taking too many drunks off the road and thus cutting into the state's DUI revenue stream.

The last time a PA State Trooper pulled my wife over for the same, he stuck his big head into the car, rimmed cap and all... and nearly had his face chewed off by my Golden Retriever sitting in the passenger seat who didn't like the intrusion. My wife relayed that he took a big step back and seemed satisfied after he checked the DL and insurance.

After you have to care for someone who has been severely injured by a worthless drunk, you'll welcome these attempts to remove them from the road.
Drunks only care about one thing. Being drunk.
Not you, not your family or who they will kill.
just the next time they can get drunk.
Fuck them.

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
After you have to care for someone who has been severely injured by a worthless drunk, you'll welcome these attempts to remove them from the road.
Drunks only care about one thing. Being drunk.
Not you, not your family or who they will kill.
just the next time they can get drunk.
Fuck them.

And if they kept those people in jail, then it'd demonstrate that the state cares about keeping drunks off the road. But I've driven fares who'd had six or more DUIs, done prison time for it, but they still get out and reoffend.

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
After you have to care for someone who has been severely injured by a worthless drunk, you'll welcome these attempts to remove them from the road.
Drunks only care about one thing. Being drunk.
Not you, not your family or who they will kill.
just the next time they can get drunk.
Fuck them.

An á la carte Constitution is far more dangerous than any drunk driver.

Come on, fess up…

You were shitting your pants that they’d detect those “two beers”.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
I would refuse to answer all questions and just keep repeating, "Am I free to go or are you detaining me?" No good can come from playing 20 questions with a cop at a DUI checkpoint.

Yes, go big. Do a Mrs Heisenberg.

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Originally posted by Rick Lee:
I've driven fares who'd had six or more DUIs, done prison time for it, but they still get out and reoffend.

Well not if they were riding with you, right? Seems like they finally learned their lesson and turn their lives around.

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Originally posted by hjs157:

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
After you have to care for someone who has been severely injured by a worthless drunk, you'll welcome these attempts to remove them from the road.
Drunks only care about one thing. Being drunk.
Not you, not your family or who they will kill.
just the next time they can get drunk.
Fuck them.

An á la carte Constitution is far more dangerous than any drunk driver.

^^^This^^^

Ironic including this quote in the signature line of that posted comment.

“Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche

Not to drop names, BUT, would that be a Freudian Slip???

[QUOTE]Originally posted by maxwayne:
Several years ago, the Supreme Court ruled them constitutional. Li

There are a few standards that must be met for that to be true.

For what's involved in setting them up, they are very unproductive.

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Originally posted by maxwayne:
Several years ago, the Supreme Court ruled them constitutional.

Was there a legitimate, reasonable (but debatable) basis? Or was this just overreach like the Roe ruling?

As much as I abhor drunk driver, seems like random checks should not be constitutional - only probable cause based.