Good job sir. As a former hockey player, Never liked the Russians in general. He can stay as long as he wants as far as I'm concerned, (hit like a man, leave the knees alone.)

Anyone who wore that jersey makes me want to puke. I was done with the NFL years ago for all the obvious reasons. The NHL only recently let me down with vaccine mandates, racism nonsense, and now this gay crap. I should have known when they neutered the league in 04.

I worked for years at Citibank. They would fly the Pride flag all June right under the TX flag. They had a Gay "club/group" whatever in the company. And if you weren't one of them, you could be a "friend" of the gays, which you'd proudly display outside your office, cube, profile whatever.

They pulled everyone in the company in meetings and put a piece of paper in front of them one day, they said you "should" or "need" or "have to" sign it to say you were on the gay team. And become a friend of the gays publicly. The message was sign it or else. It was displayed for all to see. These are their tactics. No different than the left, classic communist subversion etc etc.

Most signed with no complaint just to get along. Sheep, or the weak who have to because of money. I said I'll never sign that. Few others did too. I was proud of them. Circa 2012.


This mafia with all their power are bad guys. There's only 1 group of sexual deviants I've seen who victimize kids and try to explain it as normal. There's true facts of what actually happens in their community but ignore all that and pretend they are just like the rest of us, should be given marriage rights and kids and awards for sodomy. So brave.

I wish Ivan didn't sugar coat it with just religious reasons, but hey look at Canada right now. I'll take it. And even the not such a nice guy coach John Tortorella backed him. Good on him too.

Not sure how they will attack Ivan, which is what they do. Deport him to Russia where they don't take shit off this mafia? He'd be a hero I think.

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story...night-cites-religion

WHO!! Who will not wear the Pride jersey??



My favorite part of this is that arrogant, nutless wonder NHL sportscaster who said that Provorov should go back to the Ukraine, because he heard there was a "little conflict" going on over there.

Jesus. Fucking insane. These people are literally crazy. They lack any sense of self-awareness. Can you imagine the reaction of past generations of hockey fans to this idiotic, pointless, upside down bullshit?

Seinfeld nailed it all those years ago.

Where's Don Cherry to comment on this? A real life hockey commentator. They probably don't let him talk anymore. Barely allowed him to make it through the 90s.



https://www.dailywire.com/news...ildren-investigation

ETA, yep looks like they took him out too.

https://bleacherreport.com/art...ckey-night-in-canada

Pete,
Citi is even worse.
I won't even begin to tell you the DAILY emails.....

Provorov jerseys sold out in 24 hours after he refused to wear the pride jersey for the fifteen minute warm up. This is a guy who probably sold two jerseys his entire life. One to mom and one to dad. The NHL better realize what that means. The NHL cannot afford to lose any of their base fans they are not on the same scale as the other stick and ball sports.

The irony was thick watching all the NHL talking head shows the following day who are all mostly white and straight. They would all begin by trying to inoculate themselves by saying that Provorov has right not to wear the jersey and how they respect his right to not wear it and that is what makes this country great blah, blah ,blah. Then for the next ten minutes bash the guy as some hateful monster who isn't inclusive and just could not overcome his own hang ups for just fifteen minutes. They presume to speak for the entire gay community and are to self absorbed in their own self righteousness to realize how ignorant they are making themselves look.

I've seen many Tweets and You Tube shorts posted by gays since supporting the Provorov decision not to wear it. They realize that needing this constant and incessant validation from every single person on the planet is a problem in their community. As one pointed out, as a gay person find validation in yourself and don't demand it from others and your life will be much happier. We are the intolerant ones by demanding everyone bends the knee to our way of thinking. Many of them get it.

Respect. If you can't stay true to your faith, what good is it.

No, NHL, Citibank, or whatever. I won’t publicly support what I don’t publicly support.

Thank you, Mr. Provorov, for sticking to your beliefs.

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Originally posted by mossyoak1:
Respect. If you can't stay true to your faith, what good is it.

I agree, but that's not really what's at issue here.

The NHL is telling all members of all teams that they must support gay pride or whatever they're calling it. No dissent from this forced lockstep position will be tolerated.

Being compelled to participate in something you don't believe in is the same as being compelled to say things you don't believe or mean. This is one of Jordan Peterson's main issue with the totalitarian government and education system in Canada; compelled speech. They want to force people to use the "personal pronouns" others choose for themselves, with threats, shunning and criminal penalties for those who refuse to go along.

Why should Provorov have to provide anyone his reasons for not wanting to participate in this ridiculous demonstration? Why can't he simply say "No, I don't want to do that"? What if instead of his religious beliefs, his reason was "I don't approve of homosexuality" and that was his only reason? Would he then be wrong for not wanting to join the gay parade? The reason doesn't matter. All that matters is that it is his choice.

Think of how arrogant and deluded the heads of the NHL must be to think that it was a good idea to pull this ridiculous stunt in the first place. Think how arrogant they must be to not anticipate any push-back at all.

Provorov didn't make an issue of his refusal. No, this idiocy is all on the NHL, all the way.

Insane. These people are absolutely insane. They can't even see their own behavior. They don't comprehend the travesty of their actions and their words.

I believe that history will indict these organizations and these people, but we'll have to get two or three generations down the road before those who support this kind of crap can even begin to be honest about the attempts of their parents or grandparents to simply ruin the world.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by mossyoak1:
Respect. If you can't stay true to your faith, what good is it.

I agree, but that's not really what's at issue here.

The NHL is telling all members of all teams that they must support gay pride or whatever they're calling it. No dissent from this forced lockstep position will be tolerated.

Being compelled to participate in something you don't believe in is the same as being compelled to say things you don't believe or mean. This is one of Jordan Peterson's main issue with the totalitarian government and education system in Canada; compelled speech. They want to force people to use the "personal pronouns" others choose for themselves, with threats, shunning and criminal penalties for those who refuse to go along.

Why should Provorov have to provide anyone his reasons for not wanting to participate in this ridiculous demonstration? Why can't he simply say "No, I don't want to do that"? What if instead of his religious beliefs, his reason was "I don't approve of homosexuality" and that was his only reason? Would he then be wrong for not wanting to join the gay parade? The reason doesn't matter. All that matters is that it is his choice.

Think of how arrogant and deluded the heads of the NHL must be to think that it was a good idea to pull this ridiculous stunt in the first place. Think how arrogant they must be to not anticipate any push-back at all.

Provorov didn't make an issue of his refusal. No, this idiocy is all on the NHL, all the way.

Insane. These people are absolutely insane. They can't even see their own behavior. They don't comprehend the travesty of their actions and their words.

I believe that history will indict these organizations and these people, but we'll have to get two or three generations down the road before those who support this kind of crap can even begin to be honest about the attempts of their parents or grandparents to simply ruin the world.

I agree with you as well, it is insane and they want people to conform to the "new normal" against their will.

If we don't speak out and stand for what is right, we will conform to their needs by letting them blow smoke and telling you it's ok.

Making stands against companies/corporations for supporting their narrative is a stepping stone in what you were saying about history will indict these organizations.

In a free nation, the players would have rejected being forced to engage in political speech.

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Originally posted by rainman64:
Pete,
Citi is even worse.
I won't even begin to tell you the DAILY emails.....

That place was a cesspool. I don't miss it. There were good people there but I couldn't believe the things that went on there.

I hear time to time how globally corrupt it is and involved in this and that. None of it surprises me.

Forced to take a shot to play, forced to wear this dumbass jersey and "support" gays. What the hell? They tried forcing everyone in this country to take an experimental shot too! Free America?

Since I was a little kid, my mom would tell me as a Christian there would be a mark you have to take or you can't buy and sell. They might kill you or make you a slave blah blah blah.

This crap has been written about for 2000 years and probably longer. How 99.9% of the league goes along with this infuriates me. Sheep and cowards. I know 1 thing, standing up against this stuff is mindless and easy to do. The consequences might hurt, but so what. Life hurts and doing the right thing isn't always easy. Son of a bitch.

We've seen this kind of compelling people to do things in the 20th century, and what it lead to.

Jordan Peterson laid it out for us clearly by standing up against it, and I learned a ton from him. I was aware of the Nazi tactics, but the commie stuff is where it begins and was the worst of it and somehow it hides in the shadows and subtly gains strength. And it's here. NOW. And the blue hair dipshits, the &%^#*#$ gays, and the left are trying to jam it down our throats. Somehow they have achieved high levels of power.

Support the gays or else. Can't even be neutral or you're attacked. 2023 and this is where we are. Unbelievable.

No one was "forced" to wear anything. The following is from a statement by the NHL.

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The NHL released a statement Wednesday in response to Philadelphia Flyers defenceman Ivan Provorov's decision to skip warmups on Pride Night Tuesday, stating that "players are free to decide which initiatives to support."

“Hockey is for everyone is the umbrella initiative under which the League encourages Clubs to celebrate the diversity that exists in their respective markets, and to work to achieve more welcoming and inclusive environments for all fans," the league said in the statement obtained by Sportsnet.

"Clubs decide whom to celebrate, when and how — with League counsel and support. Players are free to decide which initiatives to support, and we continue to encourage their voices and perspectives on social and cultural issues.”

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/a...tiatives-to-support/

Its the press/media and the left that freaked out. Not the NHL. Not the Flyers. Not Torts.

And it was the press/media who decided to have such an event in the first place, wasn't it?

The innocent NHL. Faultless. Pure as the driven snow.

We all know where the pressure is coming from. I wouldn't know Provorov's name if there wasn't substantial pressure to bow to the rainbow. His face is all over national media now, these people might publish his address and kids information so they can be punished too. Wouldn't put it past em.

These things are hatched by the NHL no doubt. But, the concept that the NHL requires players to participate is not correct.

Outreach from the hockey world has been around for years. The You Can Play Project started by Brendon Burke son of NHL legend Brian Burke to name one.

I don’t give a shit about hockey so bear with this question. I read he sat out the warmups. The inference seems to be that if you weren’t wearing the pride jersey don’t be on the ice. Does that mean he wasn’t allowed to warm up?

Calling the press the issue here is a bit ridiculous. The press is always AN issue but this is all on the NHL.

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Originally posted by goose5:
These things are hatched by the NHL no doubt. But, the concept that the NHL requires players to participate is not correct.

Tell me- what is the NHL doing to protect Provorov?

The league should fine the Flyers 1 Mil dollars!!!

It's the #1 trending issue in Canada!!!