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Selling an item online and buyer sent me cash which went missing
July 29, 2017, 11:26 AM
ensigmaticSelling an item online and buyer sent me cash which went missing
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Originally posted by Stlhead:
More proof the internet is only good for porn and sharing cat videos.
Then why are you here? There's no pr0n, 'cept gun, power tool, cars and the like, and the cat videos will more likely be found in
Enough with the cat picturesOr are you just lookin' to start a scrap?
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Originally posted by 12131:
I will admit that this is the best post in this thread.
Not really. If the OP's post and the follow-ups to it are stupid, then so's Stlhead's complaint, as his assumptions are no more valid than those of anybody else.
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V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by Stlhead:
the internet is only good for porn and sharing cat videos.
There are cat videos?
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים July 29, 2017, 11:38 AM
CoolRich59quote:
Originally posted by copaup:
I'm smelling the distinct aroma of scammer.
This.
I (obviously) don't know how the communications have gone between the OP and this "buyer", but the threat to "out you on the internet" raises a red flag. At first blush, it sounds like he's trying to alarm you put you on the defensive. Same technique those "IRS Agents" use to let you know you owe $$.
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July 29, 2017, 11:45 AM
CoolRich59quote:
Originally posted by wrightd:
Min wage clerks handling expensive packages and large cash. What could go wrong ? The last thing on their mind is doing careful detailed work, while they're at work. Professionals do good work even if they don't feel like working, min wage workers, particularly the young, often not.
Similarly, I had a coworker who would have packages sent to her at work so that they would not be sitting on her porch all day long.
Unfortunately, corporate mail room staff fall into the same category as above. Packages would get delivered to the campus and get misdirected for days. The last straw for her was a package that did make it to her desk when she was away - and was stolen by another employee.
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July 29, 2017, 11:54 AM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by Stlhead:
This thread is as stupid as giving your bank account info to an African bank manager who emails you out of the blue. The OP is looking for support to stiff a buyer from a different community no has found plenty, from people who have gotten less than even one side of the story. The deal was made somewhere else, go sort this shit out where you made the deal with both parties participating. Barring those that know either (or better both) of the parties in the real world as opposed to the anonymous internet world, how can we be sure of any of the supposed facts we have been given? The vast majority of people who have posted in this thread have been convinced that the as yet unnamed buyer is an utter fool and likely a crook without even getting the other side of the story or any credible evidence. More proof the internet is only good for porn and sharing cat videos.
The only fact I need to know that the buyer is an idiot is that he sent a very large amount of cash through the mail. If that alone is not true, then this whole thread is pointless.
Again this is a discussion board. The OP presented a scenario and asked for advice. We have commented with the information at hand. Should we instead just say, "sorry, can't comment because my fallback position must be that you're a liar until I hear the whole story from the other guy as well." Just preposterous.
Get that, "I'm the only enlightened poster in this thread" crap outta here. After all, you already passed judgement on the OP that he is stiffing the buyer. With what we know that is a blatantly absurd statement.
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July 29, 2017, 02:07 PM
ml1209I went to the UPS store today and also talked to a postal mail carrier who happened to be there. Not that I had to but I wanted to help the guy out to find his money. The mail carrier called her boss and he looked up the tracking number and he said that the sender did not put the box number on the envelope. So right now his money is either on the way back to him or it is sitting at the bottom of a mail bin somewhere. This guy really went out of his way to make trouble for himself.
July 29, 2017, 02:13 PM
Pale Horsequote:
Originally posted by Stlhead:
This thread is as stupid as giving your bank account info to an African bank manager who emails you out of the blue. The OP is looking for support to stiff a buyer from a different community no has found plenty, from people who have gotten less than even one side of the story. The deal was made somewhere else, go sort this shit out where you made the deal with both parties participating. Barring those that know either (or better both) of the parties in the real world as opposed to the anonymous internet world, how can we be sure of any of the supposed facts we have been given? The vast majority of people who have posted in this thread have been convinced that the as yet unnamed buyer is an utter fool and likely a crook without even getting the other side of the story or any credible evidence. More proof the internet is only good for porn and sharing cat videos.
If the buyer sent cash then he is an idiot. I don't really need his side of the story as there is no excuse for sending cash, especially in large amounts, via regular mail. I wouldn't even send cash certified mail but if I had to send cash at the very least I would require a signature.
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July 29, 2017, 03:19 PM
Dusty78I have been scammed on eBay like this before. I sold an item and the buyer said it was broken. They supposedly sent it back. They sent me a tracking number showing it delivered in my city. I never got anything. They filed a complaint with EBay who looked at the evidence and sided with them. I decided to do some digging and went to the post office. They ran a trace and turns out it was sent to a hotel a few blocks from where I live. I went there and spoke with the manager and it was just en envelope they received not a package. So this guy knowing the usps tracking only shows a city sent back an empty envelope to make it look like he had sent me back item. Eventually eBay sided with me. Go to the post office and ran an official trace.
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July 29, 2017, 04:01 PM
Excam_Manquote:
Originally posted by ml1209:
I went to the UPS store today and also talked to a postal mail carrier who happened to be there. Not that I had to but I wanted to help the guy out to find his money. The mail carrier called her boss and he looked up the tracking number and he said that the sender did not put the box number on the envelope. So right now his money is either on the way back to him or it is sitting at the bottom of a mail bin somewhere. This guy really went out of his way to make trouble for himself.
So, not only did he send CASH, but is incompetent. I always go over the address when sending a M/O, cause I don't want to have to deal with getting the M/O back by return mail or try to recoup the money due to a lost/misplaced M/O.
WHY didn't he make sure the address was correct when sending CASH? His second mistake.
Hopefully the envelope ends up back at his place with the cash still intact. Maybe then he'll understand his mistakes and change his attitude.
July 29, 2017, 04:07 PM
Mars_Attacksquote:
I went to the UPS store today and also talked to a postal mail carrier who happened to be there. Not that I had to but I wanted to help the guy out to find his money. The mail carrier called her boss and he looked up the tracking number and he said that the sender did not put the box number on the envelope. So right now his money is either on the way back to him or it is sitting at the bottom of a mail bin somewhere. This guy really went out of his way to make trouble for himself.
Oh PLEASE tell me you have made this known to the sender in the thread.
I bet he can find some pretty good sauce recipes for crow on the internet.
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July 29, 2017, 04:15 PM
ChuckFinleyWith this update taken at face value there is every reasonable degree of evidence that this goes well beyond incompetence to intent to defraud.
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July 29, 2017, 04:27 PM
trapper189^Unless the envelope is found with the cash in it, at which point we'll be back to the buyer isn't to sharp.
August 01, 2017, 01:28 AM
Excam_ManBump
August 01, 2017, 02:07 AM
12131quote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
Bump
Man, did you ask OP for permission? Seems like we spend too much time on here.
Btw, I'm glad he got everything sorted out.
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August 01, 2017, 02:09 AM
chongosuerteI need to get to 10,000 posts before my next anniversary. You prefer butter or plain?
I did learn that the post office can do a trace. That's interesting info. Oh, and something about sending cash...
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August 01, 2017, 02:59 AM
Excam_Manquote:
Originally posted by 12131:
quote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
Bump
Man, did you ask OP for permission? Seems like we spend too much time on here.
Nope
He's been here since 2003... 5 yrs. longer than either of us.
August 01, 2017, 03:53 AM
dsietsquote:
Originally posted by 12131:
quote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
Bump
Man, did you ask OP for permission? Seems like we spend too much time on here.
Btw, I'm glad he got everything sorted out.
Be quiet you! The nerve! ...
August 01, 2017, 05:04 AM
BurtonRWAre we post whoring, now?
I've been reading this thread, but now that we're post whoring... woohoo!!!
Come on, 15,000!
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A=A August 01, 2017, 05:41 AM
PDquote:
Originally posted by ml1209:
I went to the UPS store today and also talked to a postal mail carrier who happened to be there. Not that I had to but I wanted to help the guy out to find his money. The mail carrier called her boss and he looked up the tracking number and he said that the sender did not put the box number on the envelope. So right now his money is either on the way back to him or it is sitting at the bottom of a mail bin somewhere. This guy really went out of his way to make trouble for himself.
I'm willing to bet his little scam has been working pretty good...until now. Slight variation of Dusty's hotel scam.
August 01, 2017, 06:09 AM
jigray3quote:
Originally posted by ml1209:
I went to the UPS store today and also talked to a postal mail carrier who happened to be there. Not that I had to but I wanted to help the guy out to find his money. The mail carrier called her boss and he looked up the tracking number and he said that the sender did not put the box number on the envelope. So right now his money is either on the way back to him or it is sitting at the bottom of a mail bin somewhere. This guy really went out of his way to make trouble for himself.
So there is a new issue with this situation. Why did USPS claim initially it was delivered, only to have notes somewhere else in the USPS system which seems to indicate it wasn't? Seems like someone at USPS is at fault for the initial bad or incomplete tracking info.
So much for an earlier post prepared to blame the minimum wage workers at the UPS store rather than the professionals in the USPS. There is plenty of evidence to prove people can be incompetent regardless of how much they make.
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