I have lots of cash and envelopes.

You got more guns you wanna sell?

(just kidding)

It's on him. All of it. You had no duty to tell him not to send cash if he told you.

Tell him to take it up with the USPS.

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He's a long-time member with a high post count.

I think he's legit. He just wants the gun.

The problem here is that you are an honest guy and want to do the right thing. That seems very clear.

The post below is the best answer to your situation. If it is legit, he should have no problem.


doesn't mean you should
posted July 28, 2017 01:58 PM Hide Post
I suspect it's a scam but here's what I would ask:
He decided to send it as cash, not you. He is responsible for making sure you received payment that you specified.
The tracking number so you can check it yourself.
Give him the phone number of the UPS store so he can ask them if they ever got it or what happened to it.

He is the shipper so he would have to make any claim from his end. Offer to give the Post Office a sworn affidavit that you didn't receive it.

If he had sent you a postal money order and you scammed him, he could have a federal case with documented proof.
He didn't and sent untraceable cash to someone he didn't know so he's a fool (or just a scammer himself).

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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He's a long-time member with a high post count.

I think he's legit. He just wants the gun.

The problem here is that you are an honest guy and want to do the right thing. That seems very clear.

The post below is the best answer to your situation. If it is legit, he should have no problem.


doesn't mean you should
posted July 28, 2017 01:58 PM Hide Post
I suspect it's a scam but here's what I would ask:
He decided to send it as cash, not you. He is responsible for making sure you received payment that you specified.
The tracking number so you can check it yourself.
Give him the phone number of the UPS store so he can ask them if they ever got it or what happened to it.

He is the shipper so he would have to make any claim from his end. Offer to give the Post Office a sworn affidavit that you didn't receive it.

If he had sent you a postal money order and you scammed him, he could have a federal case with documented proof.
He didn't and sent untraceable cash to someone he didn't know so he's a fool (or just a scammer himself).

I have no problem signing a sworn affidavit.

Well, its one of two possibilities.

1) Its a scam (OR)
2) He's an idiot for sending cash in the mail.

I'm with everybody else, WHY not pay a couple bucks for a M/O? Is he that paranoid of the USPS tracking his gun purchases?

F*** him and f*** his high post count. Stupid people like that make me sick. Tell us what forum it is so I can join. Just to tell him what a moron he is.

I'd tell him he's beat!
The burden of proof is on him, not you.
If he "outs " you ut him Back his word against yours.

I agree it's the sender's responsibility to ensure that payment is delivered and sent in a manner that can be traced.

Honestly, I've mailed cash before, but only for small amounts (like <$20), something that I can live with if it does get lost.

If he's a member here with a high post count, maybe he can chime in and tell us his side of the story.

Here is a pic of the tracking results on the USPS website. It shows time and date, but not address.

What kind of an idiot sends cash through the mail? Especially hundreds of dollars in cash...

Scam or no scam, you have zero obligations. Told to send MO, and he sent cash. Now, it's "lost". Tough shit.

Long time member with high post count? Tough shit. Just goes to prove that high post count doesn't mean that you're not a moron.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
What kind of an idiot sends cash through the mail? Especially hundreds of dollars in cash...

USPS claims it was delivered. The UPS store claims it wasn't. This could mean any number of things, incl. it having been delivered to the wrong place.

In any event: ISTM this is on the sender, for having no more sense than to ship cash--and w/o so much as a "signature required."

Let him "out" you so the others on that forum can see what a blazing fool he is.

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Originally posted by ml1209:
The UPS store didn't say it was delivered. They said they have no record of it coming in.

Fuck him. This stinks bad. Scam.

He's going to call you out? Call him out for being a retard who sends cash through the mail.

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

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Originally posted by ml1209:

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

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Originally posted by ml1209:

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Originally posted by bendable:
what did the ups
post office say?

As far as they're concerned, it was delivered.

Does he say that or do you have documented proof from the USPS in the form of a certified mail receipt that you have personally seen?

It wasn't certified mail. All priority mail has a tracking number nowadays, whether a signature is required or not. In this case, buyer didn't opt for signature.

Then he and you are both screwed. What an idiot. It's simply he said/she said, and the USPS worker who saw the cash and decided to pocket it is the only winner. He can say and show that it was delivered and you have no verifiable defense to his claim.

If it wasn't a scam, then it's all on the buyer for being a moron. If it was a scam, then the "buyer" will just go on to his next potential victim.

How is it that the OP is screwed?

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Originally posted by 12131:
How is it that the OP is screwed?

That's what I'm wondering.

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Originally posted by ml1209:
Here is a pic of the tracking results on the USPS website. It shows time and date, but not address.

Seems pretty clear to me.
Something was insured and delivered to the front desk or reception area in Houston, TX.

Should be easy to track down. How many front desk/reception areas can there be in Houston?
I would advice him to make an insurance claim, if the front desk doesn't have it.

Unless your name is "Front Desk", then you are screwed.

The dummy who sent cash needs to go here:

https://www.uspsoig.gov/hotline

and report the following:

"Theft of items from the mail by Postal employees or contractors"

and then wait.

OP is off the hook.

It is on the sender. All that tracking statement indicates is something was sent and was delivered in Houston. I suspect there are thousands of shipments being delivered in Houston every day.

Ken

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Originally posted by ml1209:
Here is a pic of the tracking results on the USPS website. It shows time and date, but not address.

Oh yeah, and I have zero faith in the USPS Tracking system. Do you know how many times I've had their tracking say that "Your item was undeliverable", when in fact, the receivers already got their packages?

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USPS Priority Mail with tracking does not require signature and it does not confirm delivery to the correct address and/or recipient.

In June, the Post Office delivered into my mailbox a USPS Priority Mail envelope addressed to my across-the-street neighbor. I walked the priority mail envelope over to him and I have no doubt the USPS tracking system showed it was delivered.

Last year, when I was waiting for a work delivery arriving via USPS Priority Mail it didn't arrive with that day's mail but the USPS website showed delivery three hours earlier.

With the print out of the USPS tracking showing delivery was completed three hours earlier, I found the postal carrier a couple blocks from my home.

He handed me the package and stated that he scans the packages as delivered before he leaves the post office and drops off all of the heavy packages at the end of his route from his truck so he doesn't have to carry them in his bag as he walks.

Something else to consider...

Let's say he addressed the envelope to Box 13 but you told him Box 31. Tracking still shows delivery and the UPS Store still shows nothing delivered to your box. The guy who rents Box 13 discovers it's his lucky day. Are you responsible?

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