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 Fincantieri Wins $795M Contract for Navy Frigate Program
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| Big Stack |
For entry into service around 2030. | |||
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Unlike the Little Crappy Ships, that have been vexed / plagued with major propulsion failures, it’s a proven design. It’s production cycle will lend & benefit the upgrades coming to both the weapons & sensor suites. ______________________________________________ Life is short. It’s shorter with the wrong gun… | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
Just imagine the technological advances and changes in warfare at sea theories which will change over the next decade. All of the O-5/O-6 "let's put this in so I can add the upgrade idea to my FITREP" overruns are going to be massive.  Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
How long until the protests from the losing companies begin...? | |||
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semi-reformed sailor |
What’s wrong with the frigates they have now? "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Last Perry Class FFG was decom'ed in 2015. The latest ones are reclassified LCS's LCS a POS by any other name..... "Blessed is he who when facing his own demise, thinks only of his front sight.” Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem Montani Semper Liberi | |||
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Right now, we have no frigates in service. The last of the Perrys were decommissioned years ago. The USN wants something smaller and cheaper to both build and operate than the Burke class destroyers. Edit: And Navyshooter hit the button right before I did.
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The point of using as existing design was to accelerate the process. Not entering service for ten years,for a conventional is somewhat advanced design, doesn't strike me as particularly accelerated.
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Unflappable Enginerd |
We should just modernize and slightly up-size the old PHM/Pegasus/hydrafoil platform, to give it more range and open sea capability. The original range was 1.2k NM. That was a bad ass little boat, or maybe I'm just silly. __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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The 2030 IOC is a stand-out point....10-years from award to full-ops.  I saw a schedule, for all the ships, while the first IOC will be in 2030, all 10-hulls of contract will be in the water by then...nevertheless an oddly slow roll-out. I understand the shipyard in WI still has 4-more LCS's to build along with being in the process of upgrading/modernizing to pivot to FFG builds. There was also an article where the USN is considering a 2nd yard for the FFG builds to accelerate the process. Burke's are split between two yards BIW in Maine and HII in Mississippi. The older Sprucans were all built in Mississippi..that screwed US shipbuilding for the future. Perry-class frigates were built between 3-yards, to include two West Coast yards.
Potent little things but, they were maintenance hogs, the PC class was supposed to replace them, they turned out to be nothing more than command billets for NSW officers. Functional for presence missions so, there's value in the Gulf and off of Florida. | |||
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| semi-reformed sailor |
Didn’t know that... "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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The only active USN frigate now is the USS Constitution. Put some modern weapons on her and she'll be able to cause the same terror as the did during the war of 1812. The pocket battle ship of her day; Stronger than anything smaller and able to out run anything bigger. The RN whined about calling these 50 gun monsters Frigates. he he he. All wood makes for a very small radar signature, so stealthy she is too. As she is with some Ma duces and stingers added, would do well against the Iranian navy of today. Well, we did lose the USS Philadelphia to the Barbary Pirates, but she hit a sandbar. She was burned during a daring SEAL raid by a young USN LT. Decatur. -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- -.-. --.- It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there is someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master. Ayn Rand "He gains votes ever and anew by taking money from everybody and giving it to a few, while explaining that every penny was extracted from the few to be giving to the many." Ogden Nash from his poem - The Politician | |||
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What was wrong with the frigates we had in 1797? You have to update and modernize, and given the long lead time you have to do it while your current ships are still seviceable. "I am a Soldier. I fight where I'm told and I win where I fight." GEN George S. Patton, Jr. | |||
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| semi-reformed sailor |
Yes, I get that. I was unaware that we didn’t have anymore since the hulls have been retired. "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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What did they pack for Anti-Air/Anti Missile? I remember them packing two quad tube harpoon launchers and a 76mm Gun. I don't think the 76mm can stop multi incoming cruise missiles. | |||
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They didn't. It was a pure offensive craft. Speed and punch | |||
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The Patrol Coastals currently deployed to the U.S. 5th Fleet area of operations providing Maritime security & escort operations in the Arabian gulf augment their AA defense with MANPADs FIN-92’s aka Stingers.
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Dances with Wiener Dogs |
Just curious, how do they get ships from WI out into the ocean? Only route I can think of is through the Great Lakes and out via the St Lawrence river. But our US ships would have to transit through Canada before being commissioned. Or is there another route I'm missing. Don't know enough about that area to know if there's any other way. _______________________ “The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” Ayn Rand “If we relinquish our rights because of fear, what is it exactly, then, we are fighting for?” Sen. Rand Paul | |||
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That’s the correct course. Has already been weather related incidents with recently commissioned LCS’ whereas of ice on the water around the port of Montreal and a lack of tug boats to guide the warship out, was stuck in port.
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