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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:
Report: Weekly Standard Founder Bill Kristol Caught Up in Spygate Scandal and Linked to Peter Strzok


Did Steele have to pay Kristol or did he just post the article on his own? Sad – Very Sad!

We can all agree that few things are worse than ill-informed irresponsible speculation in the press, except for ill-informed irresponsible speculation that happens to be accurate.

Rush Limbaugh had a very good show today


https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/d...n-is-an-abomination/

it really hit me this week how outrageous again this whole investigation is, how unjustified, how unwarranted, how totally misdirected it is. It is more than a hoax. It is something that is so destructive to what’s going on in the country today, it is an out-and-out lie. Everything associated with this investigation, including this whole mess that the Russians meddled.

The entire meddling, the entire collusion, every bit of working with Russians to affect the outcome of the election in 2016 took place between the Democrat Party, the Democrat National Committee, the Hillary Clinton campaign, and her paid employees, including Fusion GPS and a bunch of corrupt people at the FBI.

Donald Trump and his family didn’t collude with Russia at all. In fact, the Trump Tower meeting, I wouldn’t be surprised, if when all of this comes out, that that thing was a whole Democrat Party setup, that the whole thing was a setup like planting the spies in the Trump campaign was a setup, not to find the Russian spying or Russian meddling, but to create some!

I think the Trump campaign was minding its own business, and they get this phone call, “Hey, we got somebody from Russia, got some dirt on Hillary.” Don Jr. says hell, yes, we’ll take it. The whole thing was a setup. You watch before everything is all said and done here, that’s even gonna be as much a setup as the dossier was.

Here’s Robert Mueller, the supposed dean of honor and integrity in Washington. If that was true, he would have shut this down after the first month, and he would have changed his focus, and he would be investigating Hillary Clinton, and he would be investigating Fusion GPS. And he would be investigating Christopher Steele. He would be investigating Strzok. He’d be investigating Bruce and Nellie Ohr in the FBI. He would be investigating McCabe. He’d be investigating Brennan. He’d be investigating Clapper. He’d be investigating Comey.

If he really wanted to get to the criminal behavior and activity and the real efforts to upset a presidential election and stack the deck against a candidate, he would have been investigating the Obama DOJ. He would have been investigating the Obama FBI. The problem is, Mueller is part of that. And he’s not gonna investigate himself.

This whole thing is nothing more than a gigantic smoke screen distraction to prevent the scenario I just detailed here. And to look and hear Giuliani say, “Yeah, well, they’re gonna subpoena us. We’re prepared to fight that subpoena all the way to the Supreme Court.” I’d throw this back in their face. Look where we are. We start out with Mueller being appointed special counsel because of the very, very worrisome fact the Russians might have impacted the outcome of the election.

And what’s Mueller doing? He’s talking to porn stars, he’s talking to New York City madams, he’s talking to fringe lunatic people who’ve known Donald Trump for 25 years. He’s not investigating any Russians. He’s not interrogating any Russians. He’s indicting Russians he knows he’ll never meet

And then you add to it Brennan finally having his security clearance taken away. This guy has been single-handedly working to overthrow a duly constituted presidential election. John Brennan may be among the leaders of this so-called silent coup to overturn the results of a presidential election! There’s no way the guy should have a security clearance! The guy poses a singular threat! Attempting to overthrow a duly constituted president, refusing to accept election outcomes.

The Clinton-Steele dossier who, by the way, you know what now? I don’t even think Steele wrote it. You know who I think wrote the dossier? Nellie Ohr working for Fusion GPS and the FBI and her husband, Bruce Ohr. She is a Soviet apologist expert of many, many years. I think that dossier — they’re sloughing it off on Steele, but I think that dossier may have actually been assembled and put together in the FBI. It wouldn’t surprise me a bit.

But we’ll go with Clinton-Steele just for the purposes, because she commissioned it, Fusion GPS hires Steele, they pay for it through that cutout law firm, Perkins Coie or Coie, whatever. The Clinton Steele dossier was what? It was dirt on Trump. And what was it for? It was to destroy Trump. Right? Now, before we knew that the Clinton campaign had anything to do with it, everybody believed that that dossier was the result of Russians either presenting factual or made-up dirt on Donald Trump. For what purpose? To take him down.

That means Vladimir Putin was trying to destroy Donald Trump. Doesn’t it? The Russians, Russian agents, Russian intelligence people provided the information, the stories, the golden showers thing, just one of many things, that proved collusion. Right? Russians did this despite Putin’s decision that Trump would be his puppet? Why in the world, if Trump was Putin’s puppet, would Putin want to destroy Trump?

Putin must be furious with his Russian operatives for doing what they did. What we’ve heard about Putin, such failures, such misbehavior could earn those Russians a death sentence with just a drop of polonium-210.

We know that Putin bought off Hillary Clinton when she was secretary of state.

Beyond all that, just the very nature of this investigation is such an abomination, it’s surreal.

It doesn’t make any sense. They know exactly what’s going on here, which is why Trump has not been hurt by any of this. ‘Cause nobody believes that this investigation is legit

we all learn and Mueller does, too, that the Hillary campaign wrote the dossier that Mueller is using to investigate Trump! This is a man of integrity. This is a man of honor. He didn’t see anything problematic. He didn’t see any meddling in the election by Hillary and the Democrats and the FBI. He didn’t see any problem with the FBI planting spies in the Trump campaign. And he persists in investigating something that did not happen and now demands an interview with the president, who hasn’t colluded with Russians on anything.

Robert Mueller, Mr. Integrity, Mr. Honesty, is at the forefront of an effort to overthrow a duly elected president! Where is the integrity and the honor in that?

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I share a lot of those points with Rush. I’ve never been much impressed with the dossier as a professional intel product, but I have no experience to from a judgment, and nobody seems willing to say.

Put that with the linking of characters, those relationships, and it gets less murky.

I don't think all these new emails and messages from Bruce Ohr are being dug up by "good reporting".

It feels like there is a controlled release going on, step by step, and there is an organized game plan being executed. By who ? Not sure. Congress ? DoJ ?

Reminder: Rosenstein is probably pretty uncomfortable about that last FISA warrant extension

Maybe President Trump ordered these documents to be released.

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https://saraacarter.com/breaki...es-to-obama-doj-fbi/

In one of Ohr’s handwritten notes listed as “Law enforcement Sensitive” from May 10, 2017, he writes “Call with Chris,” referencing Steele.

He notes that Steele is “very concerned about Comey’s firing, afraid they will be exposed .”

Steele is also extremely concerned about a letter sent from the Senate Judiciary Committee asking Comey for information on his involvement with Steele. Grassley sent 12 questions to Comey regarding the bureau and Steele’s relationship and wanted all information on any agreements they had during the investigation into alleged Russia-Trump collusion. Grassley also wanted to know if the FBI ever verified any of the information in Steele’s reports.

We haven't heard from DoJ IG Horowitz for a while.

Here is the web page for his Ongoing Work

https://oig.justice.gov/ongoing/all.htm

quite a list

still there is



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Come on IG. Blow the doors off this BS.

So Comey being fired caused concern... horseshit. That concern became real for these people around 0200 Eastern time on 09 November 2016, when it became clear their hag lost.

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DOJ's Bruce Ohr wrote Christopher Steele was 'very concerned about Comey's firing -- afraid they will be exposed'

By Catherine Herridge, Gregg Re | Fox News

A collection of Justice Department official Bruce Ohr's emails, texts and handwritten notes, reviewed by Fox News, reveals that he was deeply connected to the unverified Steele dossier as well as its author and, during the presidential election campaign, the alleged government surveillance abuses involving a Trump campaign official.

The dossier, which was used by federal officials to justify the surveillance of a top Trump aide, Carter Page, was created by Fusion GPS and paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee.

Ohr wrote that Christopher Steele, the ex-British spy who wrote the salacious dossier, was "very concerned (abt) about [former FBI Director James] Comey's firing -- afraid they will be exposed."

The Ohr documents shed more light on Steele's activities before the presidential election. While Steele shopped the dossier to multiple media outlets, he also appeared to ask Ohr for help with a Russian oligarch -- Oleg Deripaska -- after rumors the U.S. might impose sanctions.

Ohr had a conflict of interest during the presidential campaign and transition, congressional investigators say, because his wife Nellie worked for Fusion GPS. Steele, an ex-British spy, was a key source cited by the FBI and Department of Justice to obtain a FISA (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act) warrant to monitor Page.

After the FBI dropped Steele as a source in November 2016 over his contacts with the media, the Republican-led House Intelligence Committee found that Steele had maintained contact with government officials by effectively using Ohr as a back channel.

During recent congressional testimony, now-fired FBI agent Peter Strzok confirmed that "the FBI received documents and material from Mr. Ohr."

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“Very concerned about Comey’s firing, afraid they will be exposed,” said Bruce Ohr. DOJ’s Emails & Notes show Bruce Ohr’s connection to (phony & discredited) Trump Dossier. A creep thinking he would get caught in a dishonest act. Rigged Witch Hunt!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 16, 2018

On Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders announced that President Trump had terminated former CIA Director John Brennan's security clearance, and was reviewing the clearances of several other former officials. Sanders read a statement from Trump that cited what he described as Brennan's misleading testimony before Congress and his increasingly partisan rhetoric, saying Brennan improperly traded on his access to classified information.

"For this reason, I've also begun to review the more general question of the access to classified information by government officials," Trump’s statement read. "As part of this review I'm evaluating action with respect to the following individuals: James Clapper, James Comey, Michael Hayden, Sally Yates, Susan Rice, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page and Bruce Ohr."

Ohr is the only official on that list still working in the U.S. government.

During closed-door congressional testimony last year, the co-founder of Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, claimed he had no contact with Ohr until after the presidential election. But Ohr's work emails conflict with Simpson's testimony, and show contact months earlier.

Ohr's notes also indicate that in December 2016, there was a meeting in Washington, D.C.'s Chinatown between Fusion GPS’ Simpson and Ohr, with Ohr writing, "Glen(n) gave me a memory stick."

Reacting to the news late Thursday, President Trump suggested the disclosures were more proof of a "witch hunt" against him.

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"DOJ’s Emails & Notes show Bruce Ohr’s connection to (phony & discredited) Trump Dossier," Trump wrote. "A creep thinking he would get caught in a dishonest act. Rigged Witch Hunt!"

The DOJ declined to comment on this story. There was no response from Simpson’s lawyer to a Fox News request seeking comment. Ohr can tell his side of the story on Aug. 28, when a closed-door interview is scheduled with the House oversight and judiciary committees as part of their joint investigation into the FBI and DOJ's conduct during the presidential election.

Horowitz is another Obama hack. He couldn’t find any bias in Strozk’s behaviour? Don’t hold your breath waiting to get any real results from him. Not in this lifetime anyhow.

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He couldn’t find any bias in Strozk’s behaviour?

I was disappointed in Horowitz's conclusions too, but the quote is a bit harsh.

From the DoJ IG report ("Conclusions" section):

The problem with the IG reports is that they have no teeth.. Unless the DOJ prosecutes (never gonna happen) it's just another report that will be discredited because nothing "real" (indictments) came of it.

That coward Sessions can't be fired soon enough.

Mueller's team wants George Papadopoulos to spend 6 months in jail, says lying impeded investigation

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/17...l-counsel/index.html

edit : after this article came out, the Mueller filing doc has been made available. Mueller recommends 0 to 6 months imprisonment, but notes that another defendant (Alex van der Zwaan) was sentenced to 30 days. Mueller also recommended a fine of $ 9500.


Federal authorities had cornered the man they suspected could be part of Russia's interference in the 2016 presidential election -- and they might have been more successful in their investigation in early 2017 if it had not been for George Papadopoulos, the special counsel alleged on Friday.

and they let him walk away ?

Special counsel prosecutors are asking a judge to sentence Papadopoulos to up to six months in prison, according to a court filing on Friday. The former Trump campaign staffer pleaded guilty last October to one count of lying to investigators over his interactions about the Trump campaign with foreign contacts who had connections to Russia.

Papadopoulos lied to the FBI in January 2017 about his contact in London with Joseph Mifsud, identified in the filing as "the Professor." Mifsud had told Papadopoulos the Russians had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton. Federal authorities then found Mifsud in DC two weeks later, but allowed him to leave the country .

"The defendant's lies undermined investigators' ability to challenge the Professor or potentially detain or arrest him while he was still in the United States," prosecutors wrote. "The defendant's false statements were intended to harm the investigation, and did so."

Mifsud was not named in the court filing Friday night, but CNN learned the name of the mysterious "Professor" after Papadopoulos' guilty plea became public last year. Mifsud, who "has not returned to the United States" since February 2017 , has not been publicly charged with a crime.

Papadopoulos' initial interview with federal investigators in late January 2017 was months before the appointment of special counsel Robert Mueller. Mueller's team said in their Friday filing that that early interview, part of a national security investigation, was "completely voluntary." Papadopoulos went with the agents from his home to the FBI office in Chicago to be interviewed for more than two hours, the filing said.

At the time of the interview, the FBI agents were looking for people with information about the Trump campaign and its connections to Russia. They were also pursuing leads about Russia's involvement in the US presidential election almost three months before the interview, the filing said. They reminded Papadopoulos several times in that interview that he should not lie and could be prosecuted if he did, the filing said.

Papadopoulos lied "to minimize both his own role as a witness and the extent of the campaign's knowledge of his contacts," the prosecutors said.

Among "at least a dozen" lies at the interview, Papadopoulos concealed the "significance" of when he had learned that Russians possessed thousands of emails about Clinton. Papadopoulos said wrongly several times he had communicated with Mifsud before he joined the Trump campaign.

But Papadopoulos knew he had a role in the campaign when he started conversing with Mifsud in March 2016 -- and the professor "showed interest in the defendant only after learning of his role on the campaign," the filing said. Papadopoulos learned about the "dirt" the Russians had on Clinton the following month, after he began working for Trump, the filing said. He told the authorities his interactions with Mifsud were "a very strange coincidence."

On the same day as his interview, Papadopoulos applied for a deputy assistant secretary position in Trump's Department of Energy, according to the filing.

"The defendant lied in order to conceal his contacts with Russians and Russian intermediaries during the campaign," the filing said.

Those lies happened "early in the investigation, when key investigative decisions, including who to interview and when, were being made," it said.

"Had the defendant told the FBI the truth when he was interviewed in January 2017, the FBI could have quickly taken numerous investigative steps to help determine, for example, how and where the Professor obtained the information, why the Professor provided the information to the defendant, and what the defendant did with the information after receiving it," the filing said.

To make matters worse for Papadopoulos, the prosecutors say he has not provided significant help in their investigation. The former Trump campaign foreign policy aide provided investigators with information only after they confronted him with text messages, internet searches and other information they had collected, the filing said.

Papadopoulos met with prosecutors four times to offer information after his initial interview and before he was charged with lying, the filing says. It was only at the fourth meeting, accompanied by his lawyers, that he told them about a cellphone he had used abroad during the campaign that had logged his calls with Mifsud.

An additional meeting in December where investigators wanted to ask Papadopoulos more questions -- two months after he cut his plea deal -- was canceled because he and his then-fiancée began giving interviews to media outlets.

After Friday's filing, Papadopoulos' wife, Simona Mangiante, told CNN she felt her husband should pull out of the plea agreement, saying he hadn't had proper representation in the negotiation with the government. It was not clear if that was her husband's belief as well.

Prosecutors said in the filing that Mangiante, in interviews with the media, had inflated Papadopoulos' help to investigators following his plea.

Papadopoulos' lawyer Thomas Breen said Friday night that he was unable to comment at this time and would respond through the court record in their own pre-sentencing memo, which must be filed by Aug. 31.

In another curious detail in the filing, the special counsel team said Papadopoulos had been given $10,000 in cash "from a foreign national whom he believed was likely an intelligence officer of a foreign country." The filing noted that the country was "other than Russia."

Mueller has also recommended a $9,500 fine.

Papadopoulos is scheduled to be sentenced in the US District Court for the District of Columbia on Sept. 7.

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Mifsud has gone into hiding

the awesome Mueller team apparently can't find him

FUBAR = Mueller investigation

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Mifsud was easy to find in Feb 2017




seen at:

https://thefederalist.com/2018...arise-joseph-mifsud/

Mueller's "Government Sentencing Memorandum" for Papadopoulos:

https://www.scribd.com/documen...S-Case-Memo#download



The sentencing memorandum states that the FBI interview w Papadopoulos was video and audio recorded on 27 Jan 2017.

The memo states that Papadopoulos was confronted w his emails, text messages, internet search history. How did the FBI get those ?

The memo states that Papadopoulos got $10k from a foreign national, but the memo doesn't seem to mention at all that Papadopoulos got $3k from FBI spy Stefan Halper to write a paper in Sep 2016.

Wonder why they didn't mention Halper ?

Speaking of Halper:

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PENTAGON WHISTLEBLOWER QUESTIONED FBI INFORMANT STEFAN HALPER’S ‘OUTRAGEOUS’ CONTRACTS

'Over a year before Stefan Halper was revealed as an FBI informant who spied on the Trump campaign, a Pentagon analyst complained to his bosses about “astronomically outrageous” contracts given to Halper, a former University of Cambridge professor."

https://mixi.media/newdata/adp...84-a574-5820e4e8a030

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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
Horowitz is another Obama hack. He couldn’t find any bias in Strozk’s behaviour? Don’t hold your breath waiting to get any real results from him. Not in this lifetime anyhow.

This is false. Unless you have evidence of Horowitz being an "Obama hack", there doesn't seem to be anything to indicate what you're saying has any merit. Keep in mind that the report that Horowitz and his team compiled indicated a very different conclusion than what the summary/conclusion tried to show. (A summary/conclusion that wasn't even written by Horowitz and his team, IIRC)

Besides all that, everything I've read seems to imply that Horowitz and Obama didn't get along.

The Mueller sentencing filing against Papadopoulos included a statement that Papadopoulos received $10k in cash from a likely foreign intelligence officer.

This had publicly come up in a recent Rolling Stones interview w Papadopoulos on 13 June 2018.

https://www.rollingstone.com/p...papadopoulos-627956/

Papadopoulos had invited Simona Mangiante on a "date" to Mykomos, Greece. This would be spring/summer of 2017.

Simona: “We met a few spies in Mykonos.” Among them was an Israeli businessman in his mid-sixties – the couple are now convinced he was an agent for the Mossad – who, she says, would later offer George $10,000 in cash.

According to Simona, the payment was “not to be a consultant, just to, let’s say, ‘keep [his] engagements.'” She’s now convinced the payment “was a setup.” Agents for the Mueller probe asked her about it when she was interviewed in Chicago last year. “They were testing my credibility,” Simona says, adding she had to answer all of their questions truthfully. “If I didn’t, I would be charged with lying to the FBI.” (She says George accepted the money and gave it to his lawyers.)

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That description of the $10k in the interview a few weeks ago matches up w the Mueller sentencing memo.

FBI Dealt Blow By DC Judge; Must Address Measures Taken To Verify Steele Dossier

https://www.zerohedge.com/news...erify-steele-dossier

The FBI has been dealt a major blow after a Washington DC judge ruled that the agency must respond to a FOIA request for documents concerning the bureau's efforts to verify the controversial Steele Dossier, before it was used as the foundation of a FISA surveillance warrant application and subsequent renewals.

US District Court Judge Amit Mehta - who in January sided with the FBI's decision to ignore the FOIA request, said that President Trump's release of two House Intelligence Committee documents (the "Nunes" and "Schiff" memos) changed everything.

Considering that the FBI offered Steele $50,000 to verify the Dossier's claims yet never paid him, BuzzFeed has unsuccessfully tried to do the same to defend themselves in a dossier-related lawsuit, and a $50 million Soros-funded investigation to continue the hunt have turned up nothing that we know of - whatever documents the FBI may be forced to cough up regarding their attempts to verify the Dossier could prove highly embarrassing for the agency.

[I]f Mr. Steele could get solid corroboration of his reports, the F.B.I. would pay him $50,000 for his efforts, according to two people familiar with the offer. Ultimately, he was not paid. -NYT

What's more, forcing the FBI to prove they had an empty hand will likely embolden calls to disband the special counsel investigation - as the agency's mercenary and politicized approach to "investigations" will be laid all the more bare for the world to see. Then again, who knows - maybe the FBI verified everything in the dossier and it simply hasn't leaked.

That said, while the FBI will likely be forced to acknowledge the documents thanks to the Thursday ruling, the agency will still be able to try and convince the judge that there are other grounds to withhold the records.

In January, Mehta blessed the FBI's decision not to disclose the existence of any records containing the agency's efforts to verify the dossier - ruling that Trump's tweets about the dossier didn't require the FBI and other intelligence agencies to act on records requests.

"But then the ground shifted," writes Mehta of Trump declassifying the House memos. "As a result of the Nunes and Schiff Memos, there is now in the public domain meaningful information about how the FBI acquired the Dossier and how the agency used it to investigate Russian meddling."

The DOJ also sought to distinguish between the Steele Dossier and a synopsis of the dossier presented to both Trump and then-President Obama in 2016, however Mehta rejected the attempt, writing "That position defies logic," while also rejecting the government's refusal to even say if the FBI has a copy of that synopsis.

"It remains no longer logical nor plausible for the FBI to maintain that it cannot confirm nor deny the existence of documents," Mehta wrote.

It is simply not plausible to believe that, to whatever extent the FBI has made efforts to verify Steele’s reporting, some portion of that work has not been devoted to allegations that made their way into the synopsis. After all, if the reporting was important enough to brief the President-elect, then surely the FBI thought enough of those key charges to attempt to verify their accuracy. It will be up to the FBI to determine which of the records in its possession relating to the reliability of the Dossier concerns Steele’s reporting as discussed in the synopsis.

“This ruling represents another incremental step in revealing just how much the FBI has been able to verify or discredit the rather personal allegations contained in that synopsis derived from the Steele dossier,” said Brad Moss, a lawyer pressing the lawsuit for the pro-transparency group, the James Madison Project. “It will be rather ironic if the president’s peripheral actions that resulted in this ruling wind up disclosing that the FBI has been able to corroborate any of the ‘salacious’ allegations.”

In other words, the FBI must show what they did to verify the claims contained within the Nunes and Schiff memos.

Because the case was heard on appeal, the ruling will not take immediate effect, notes Politico, which adds that the appeals court is now likely to remand the case to Mehta, while the FBI is going to try and convince him the records should remain unreleased.

https://www.scribd.com/documen...1281/FBI-Foia-Ruling

Devin Nunes has said Bruce Ohr will become "more and more important" in the House Intel Comm investigation.

TheMarketsWork had a report about the Bruce Ohr FBI 302 interviews. This post leans heavy on that report.

Senator Grassley first made public that there were 12 FBI 302s that documented interviews w Bruce Ohr.

This table lists the dates of the 302 write ups and the dates of the actual interview



TMW pointed out that the flurry of the first four 302s may have been to support the first extension of the Carter Page FISA warrant.

Christopher Steele had been terminated as an FBI human source on 1 Nov 2017

MYE = Mid Year Exam was the Clinton email investigation

On 16 May 2017, Strzok has just seen the latest updates from Bruce Ohr on inputs from Christopher Steele. How does he feel about things?

Strzok and Lisa Page are debating whether they should go on the Mueller investigation or not

Strzok/Page text messaging 19 May 2017

Strzok: “For me, and this case, I personally have a sense of unfinished business. I unleashed it with MYE. Now I need to fix it and finish it”

Lisa Page: “You shouldn’t take this on. I promise you, I would tell you if you should”

Strzok: “Why not, re me?” “An investigation leading to impeachment?”

Strzok: “you and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely, I’d be there no question. I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there’s no big there there”

Strzok: “Regardless of the outcome, I think there’s a certain savvy business decision for you to do it. 600k/year + doing white hat corporate investigations isn’t a bad exit strategy”

Strzok and Lisa Page have been previously discussing Page’s exit strategy from the FBI. “a savvy business decision” to get in on the high visibility impeachment investigation

And Strzok thinks “there’s no big there there”

What a fraud and hoax this whole thing has been.

Two things that will be critical to see:

1) The full FISA warrants. It is possible that the FBI continually took Bruce Ohr's inputs and kept padding the extension w more C Steele BS

2) the Bruce Ohr 302s

If all this Top Secret, Secret, "national security" smoke screen is just hiding Steele unverified crap, then things look vastly worse for all concerned.

Switching back to Papadopoulos, that $10k from a "likely intel officer of a foreign country" has gotten more interesting.

Reporting from Chuck Ross

Caution: so far the only person reporting this is Chuck Ross

http://dailycaller.com/2018/08...los-foreign-payment/

An Israeli American businessman named Charles Tawil allegedly made the payment to Papadopoulos

? Israeli American

Sources familiar with the matter told TheDCNF Tawil flew to the Greek island of Mykonos in summer of 2017 to meet Papadopoulos and his now-wife, Simona Mangiante Papadopoulos.

Tawil invited the pair to Israel, but Mangiante Papadopoulos stayed behind.

This was supposed to facilitate a business deal involving an oil and gas project in the Aegean and Mediterranean seas.

because Papadopoulos is such a successful person ???

Charles Tawil gave Papadopoulos $10,000 during a meeting in an Israeli hotel room in July 2017.

Papadopoulos gave the money to an attorney in Greece before traveling back to the U.S.

“The retainer would go firstly to cover [George’s] needs as he said that he had financial problems,” he continued. “This first job was to help preparing bidding document to Exxon Mobil for their project in Cyprus and help negotiating a subcontracting deal there.”

Ha’ivri said that the deal quickly fell apart, blaming Papadopoulos’ “immaturity.”

“After that the whole story fell apart. Charles left back to Washington and the story was over,” he said.

Mangiante stayed in Italy.

Papadopoulos flew to Dulles airport on 27 July 2017. The FBI arrested him as soon as he got off the plane.

The FBI told him that he was being charged with lying to the FBI in a January 2017 interview about his contacts with pro-Russia advocates and with obstruction of justice for shutting down his Facebook account one day after a follow-up interview with the FBI in February.

https://www.politico.com/story...os-arrest-fbi-277760

After the dramatic stop at the airport, Papadopoulos was cut loose on his own recognizance the following afternoon, with prosecutors making no effort to seek bail or keep him behind bars.

The FBI (Mueller team) threated to charge Papadopoulos as a Greek or Israeli spy.

A judge accepted Papadopoulos' plea at a secret hearing in October 2017.

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So, who is Charles Tawil ? He flew home to Washington ?


At least one blogger speculated the 10k was a set up. If Papadopoulos had flown back to the U.S. with the 10k, he might have indeed been charged as a spy.

This story sounds really shaky. Almost everything about Papadopoulos is weird. But remember the Mueller sentencing doc said Papadopoulos kept the 10k in a safe pending his sentencing.

Coincidence the Mueller team recommended fine is $9500 ?

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CT is also running w this story (based on Chuck Ross)

Conservative Treehouse observes:

Federal agents were waiting for Papadopoulos at the airport upon his arrival and re-entry into the U.S. If Mr. Papadopoulos had carried that $10k into the U.S. without declaring a U.S. treasury filing, the FBI/DOJ would have nailed him on a treasury violation. Bringing $10,000 (or more) cash into the U.S. is a major felony; just the type of leverage Robert Mueller was looking for

It is looking more and more to me that there was collusion with Ruskies to jimmy the election, and it is looking more and more as though it was the Democrats doing the colluding.

Steele and Simpson got the dossier mostly from this Oleg Deripaska, who was very well known to Mueller, Comey, McCabe and others in FBI/DOJ.

Read this: Link

I agree w most of what is on the CT link to

“Our Guy” – The *REAL* Russian Collusion…

but I am not comfortable that Oleg Deripaska is the person that Steele refers to as "our guy".

One example: Steele writes

"We can't allow our guy to be forced to go back home"

How does that fit Deripaska ?