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When do they start the subpoenas for the Brookings institute?





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Perm, Russia

Danchenko completed high school in Perm in 1996


Hans Mahncke: Did SergeiMillian
ever receive any emails from Igor Danchenko?

Sergei Millian:

I got two emails from this guy, one on July 21 & another one on August 18, 2016 where he asked for a meeting in DC or NYC. He was looking for my expertise on a real estate project in Russia. I ignored his approach & never met him
 
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really not trying to connect dots in this post. Just weird stuff

Fiona Hill had interfaced w Steele when he was working for UK intel. Steele visited Fiona Hill in 2016. She did not know he was doing the dossier work.

Just before Buzzfeed released the Steele dossier in Jan 2017, Fiona Hill was given a copy of the dossier by the president of Brookings Institution.

Who was that ? Strobe Talbott.



Talbott is on the left. Clinton middle


Talbott shared a house w Bill Clinton when they were at Oxford. Clinton used to make Talbott breakfast.

Talbott was in the Clinton State Dept.

Some Talbott quotes:

1992: "In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."

2019: "We already know that the Kremlin helped put Trump into the White House and played him for a sucker…. Trump has been colluding with a hostile Russia throughout his presidency."

Talbott's brother in law is Cody Shearer. Shearer is a long time dirty tricks guy for the Clintons. Shearer had his own phony "dossier" on Donald Trump. Shearer gave it to Steele who then passed it to the FBI.

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on the previous page there is a post w parts of Steele's report 2016/095

There is also some summary comments about the primary subsource testimony to the FBI about "source 6".

Remember - what we are being told by DoJ is that Steele worked thru one person - the primary subsource (PSS)

The primary subsource pulled information from at least 6 people : source 1 to source 6

Hans Mahncke: Did @SergeiMillian ever receive any emails from Igor Danchenko?

Sergei Millian: I got two emails from this guy, one on July 21 & another one on August 18, 2016 where he asked for a meeting in DC or NYC. He was looking for my expertise on a real estate project in Russia. I ignored his approach & never met him. The fake call about
@carterwpage , T, M is a lie.

Read the 2016/095 report

Carter Page
T = Donald Trump ?
M = Manafort ?

"The fake call about @carterwpage , T, M is a lie."

'he asked for a meeting in DC or NYC"

"I ignored his approach & never met him."

matches things the PSS said to FBI about source 6


So, is source 6 = Sergei Millian ?
 
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Mark Meadows was on Fox over the weekend. He intimated that indictments are coming sooner rather than later. Heres hoping! Regards 18DAI


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(cue the "AIN'T NOTHIN' NEVER GONNA HAPPEN NEVER!!!" crowd)

C'mon, fellas, it's been 90 seconds, You're late.
 
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(cue the "AIN'T NOTHIN' NEVER GONNA HAPPEN NEVER!!!" crowd)

C'mon, fellas, it's been 90 seconds, You're late.


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It will be a banner day when the first perp is in handcuffs.

Until then. Yawn.

No proof they are actually doing anything.
 
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Mark Meadows was on Fox over the weekend. He intimated that indictments are coming sooner rather than later. Heres hoping! Regards 18DAI


Durham's reputation gives me some hope still.

I want these corrupt apparatchiks to pay.
 
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not seeing any mention from news sources on Igor Danchenko

here is a twitter string from Stephen McIntyre

This thread will go through the FBI questions on Steele memo 2016/95 , which, with 2016/80, is by far the most important memo, as it makes lurid collusion allegations.

"Report" 2016/95 notoriously stated that there was a "well-developed conspiracy of co-operation" between Trump campaign and "Russian leadership", run through Manafort and Carter Page, arising because Putin "hated and feared" Hillary Clinton.

this claim was highlighted in the influential Intel Community Assessment of Jan 6, 2017, which cited the FBI source's assessment that Putin ordered influence campaign because he "hated and feared" Hillary Clinton, an assessment endorsed by intel agencies.

memo 2016/95 makes several other explosive claims, which similarly impacted the Intel Assessment.

The FBI inteview report includes two important sections in which they questioned Danchenko, Steele's Primary Sub-Source, on 2016/95. IMO these are fundamental to next phase

I'm going to go through these sections paragraph by paragraph with semi-complete interpolations.
@walkafyre
made the critical identifications of USPERS and USPER2 in these sections, published here for first time (with W's consent as he's busy today). IMO these identifications

would have led to identification of PSS in a day or two in an alternate way to Hmmmm's clever use of Kieran Porter's social media and earlier detective work by our corner of twitter on character counts in PSS' name and US university

2016/95 is based on dossier Source E, redacted, but clearly Sergei Millian (Source 6 in the interview) . The two USPERS and their organization are redacted and impossible to guess on this section alone or in text of second day. But luckily redactors missed name in day 2 header

with this information, @walkafyre identified USPERS2 as Dmitriy Zlodorev, the RIA Novosti reporter who had interviewed Millian earlier in 2016, and the reporter with long surname as another RIA Novosti reporter, Alexey Bogdanovskiy (who is in PSS' Twitter circle).

we can now read that Orbis had tasked PSS to follow up his June with regarding Trump’s Russian connections in US. So PSS contacted Bogdanovskiy, who put him in contact with Dmitriy Zlodorev, who had Millian’s contact info, saying he should speak to Millian.

as I proceed, keep in mind that, in addition to Orbis' targeting of Millian, Fusion GPS was simultaneously sending Brian Ross and Matthew Mosk of ABC towards Millian (with that effort resulting in the Jul 30 interview shown in Jan 2017, excerpts earlier).

in the first day, PSS said that he emailed Millian twice. That after 2nd call (~late July), he got "very strange phone call" from anonymous caller, who PSS (incorrectly) surmised to be Millian. They "talked for a bit" and "tentatively" agreed to "meet in person" in NYC

"at end of July". Millian (as demonstrable from contemporary FB) was actually in Asia for the 3rd and 4th weeks of July. Without (apparently) confirmation from the mysterious voice, PSS, accompanied (oddly) by reporter Bogdanovskiy, proceeded to NY on Jul 26 (FB pre-lockout)

this testimony requires that Danchenko's two emails were prior to the telephone call, which (if it was real) would have been (say) a week before PSS' Jul 26 trip. This would be around time of Republican convention (Jul 18) and before the Wikileaks dump and Dem convention.

according to PSS, this was the ONLY exchange that he had with Source E. When PSS arrived in NY, "Millian" was a no show. The FBI then moved on to other topics in this first day of questioning. No evidence that they asked a single question about the damning collusion claims.

next paragraph is almost fully infilled. PSS and Bogdan went out to a Thai restaurant, where PSS asked Bogdan for a lead on someone who could talk about "Trump/Manafort stuff or Trump and Russia". Entry of Manafort as a theme interesting here.

PSS again recounted story of "strange" telephone call in which he talked with anonymous caller for 10 minutes, then agreeing to meet him in New York.

this time, PSS added a new detail. That, after the no-show, he talked to Zlobodev, who told him that Millian had been asking about him. But that it would be hard for PSS to "reach out to Millian now" because he was in Asia. Infill of Korea is a guess here.

Note another interesting and important new detail at end of paragraph: PSS told Steele "about Millian's whereabouts in" (presumably some Asian location.)

PSS told FBI that he made one more attempt to reach Millian "in September" via a friend who had a real estate project, but Millian never responded. PSS noted that they had associated on LinkedIn, but "could not remember which initiated". (It was PSS).

the interview notes on this topic close with PSS saying that his contact with "Millian" was limited to this single telecon with an anonymous caller in July. This paragraph was quoted at length by Horowitz, who omitted opening 2 sentences.

so PSS said that he received a single anonymous telephone call (presumably) about a week before his Jul 26 trip to NY, in which the caller said that there had been an "exchange of information" between Trump and the Kremlin. Apparently no FBI questions on what PSS told Steele

another point showing the supposed anonymous call (if it existed) was at least a week before PSS' Jul 26 trip to NY: PSS "did not recall" any discussion of Wikileaks. DNC emails dropped on Jul 22. Inconceivable that they would not be mentioned in a call in Jul 22-26 window

despite PSS' evidence of no discussion of WL with the anonymous caller, 2016/95, supposedly based on Millian "speaking in confidence" in "late July", not only referred to the DNC leak and Wikileaks, but conveniently included a supposed admission of Russian culpability

so why didnt the FBI, in their "counterintelligence" operation, directly ask PSS about the mile-wide discrepancy between what the anonymous caller had supposedly told him and what was in the Steele report?

or pin down the times. If the anonymous call was a week ahead of the Jul 26 trip and BEFORE the Wikileaks drop on Jul 22 and there was no other communication with Millian, then what was the basis for attributing assertions about Wikileaks to Millian? Incompetence squared.

but there's more. Report 202, dated Aug 10, says that there was another conversation with Millian on August 9. In direct contradiction to PSS' evidence of a single anonymous call a week or so before Jul 26. The inspectors Clouseau of FBI did not ask a single question.

the damning conclusion is inescapable: Report 2016/95's lurid allegations of collusion, assertions said to have been made by Source E (Millian) to PSS (Danchenko), were inserted by Steele's office (not PSS) and were total fabrication.

similarly, Millian (Source E) did NOT tell PSS that Putin engaged in an influence campaign because he "hated and feared" Hillary (an implausible claim when you think about it) nor did PSS submit this report to Steele. It too was fabricated in Steele's group.

so when the collective wisdom of the US Intelligence Community solemnly told the outgoing Obama admin and incoming Trump admin that they had reliably originated information that Putin conducted operations because he "feared and hated" Hillary, it was based on a fraud.
 
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The only news organization that has said anything about Igor Danchenko is RT.

RT is generally considered as a Russia state controlled news media

From my own personal view I think it is highly likely that Danchenko is the Steele primary subsource (PSS), but that is not yet widely acknowledged or proven.

Danchenko lives in Arlington VA. I have found his address, phones numbers, and the person he lives with.

Now as the people PSS used as his sources get identified, some of them live in Russia. Source 6 does seem highly likely to be Sergei Millian.

Source 3 has been guessed at online.

Danchenko has closed his social media.

this situation is a lot like when Eric Ciaramella was identified by Paul Sperry. No one would report his name, but he "disappeared" and never publicly denied he was the secret whistleblower.
 
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Rep Doug Collins believes we're close! And the CTH staff seem to believe they are forcing DoJ's hand.

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when you use Google to search for Conservative TreeHouse, the link directly to the website does not appear

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how timely.

A few posts up there is a discussion of Strobe Talbott. Oxford roommate of Bill Clinton.

The post mentions that Strobe Talbott gave Fiona Hill a copy of the dossier the day before the dossier was released by Buzzfeed.

How did Talbott get the dossier ?

Steele gave it to him

https://dailycaller.com/2020/0...ation-dossier-trial/

Text messages read out during the first day of a defamation trial against Christopher Steele in London on Monday revealed new details about how the former British spy strategized with associates on how to disseminate the infamous anti-Trump dossier.

hooray for defamation cases

In one message after Donald Trump’s election win in November 2016,

Steele asked Strobe Talbott, who then served as president of the prestigious Brookings Institution, how he wanted to handle “the package” — a reference to the dossier.

Igor Danchenko once worked at Brookings Institution. small small world

Talbott had been a rumored candidate for a senior job in a Hillary Clinton administration

In another message from early 2017, Steele urged David Kramer, an associate of Sen. John McCain’s, not to tell reporters that Steele had been a source for another journalist on a dossier-related story.

And in a message weeks earlier, Steele told Sir Andrew Wood, the former British ambassador to Russia, that McCain was “compromised” by being given a copy of the dossier.

Lawyers for a Russian tech executive, Aleksej Gubarev, read the text exchanges and others during the first day of Steele’s trial to establish that the ex-MI6 officer was deeply involved in the dissemination of information from the dossier.

Gubarev is suing Steele for defamation over the dossier, which BuzzFeed published on Jan. 10, 2017.

Andrew Caldecott, the lead lawyer for Gubarev, said that

Talbott, who served as deputy secretary of state in the Clinton administration, called Steele in August 2016 inquiring about his investigation of the Trump campaign.

“Mr. Talbott telephones Mr Steele out of the blue in August 2016, having heard about his work and offers advice if needed,” Caldecott said, according to a copy of his remarks obtained by The Daily Caller News Foundation.

Steele and Wood took Talbott up on his offer in early November 2016, just after the FBI cut ties with Steele because he served as a source for Mother Jones reporter David Corn

Steele had briefed 6 to 8 major news media on the dossier in Sept 2016. He briefed some of them twice


“Sir Andrew Wood and Mr. Steele telephone Mr Talbott on 2nd or 3rd November 2016, and Mr Talbott asks for copies of the memoranda to discuss with John Kerry and other officials at the State Department,”

Fusion GPS, the firm that hired Steele on behalf of the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign, provided the dossier to Talbott, according to the lawyer.

After Trump’s surprising election win, Steele contacted Talbott to discuss “the package” that had been delivered to him the week before, an apparent reference to the dossier, according to Caldecott’s reading of Steele’s messages.

Steele asked the former diplomat to advise how they “should handle” the salacious document.

“Dear Strobe, I know this is not straight forward but we need to discuss the package we delivered to you the other week, and sooner the better. What you thought of it, what you did with it, how we (both) should handle it and the issue it highlights going forward etc.,” Steele wrote on Nov. 12, 2016, according to Caldecott.

It is not clear what Talbott, a longtime friend of the Clintons’, did with the dossier once he obtained it, but Fiona Hill, a former Brookings officials who served in the Trump White House, told Congress last year that Talbott provided her a copy of the dossier a day before BuzzFeed published it.

Hill testified that she was surprised that Steele, who she has known since he served in MI6, was behind the document. She also said she believed it included disinformation planted by Russian operatives.

Gubarev’s lawyers asserted that Steele ratcheted up his efforts to put the dossier into the hands of U.S. officials and members of the press after Trump’s surprise election victory.

Steele’s critics have accused him of pushing the dossier through various government agencies in order to lend it a veneer of credibility.

Steele provided information to the FBI, as well as to Justice and State Department officials. The Justice Department’s inspector general has since debunked many of the key allegations in the dossier and faulted the FBI for using it to obtain surveillance warrants against Carter Page, a former Trump campaign aide.

On Nov. 18, 2016, nearly a week after Steele’s exchange with Talbott, Wood approached McCain and Kramer, the late senator’s associate, at the Halifax International Security Forum.

Wood, the former British diplomat, told McCain and Kramer about Steele’s work, and arranged for Kramer to travel to London to meet with Steele.

Kramer, who served in the State Department under George W. Bush, obtained the dossier and provided it to McCain. The Republican shared a copy with then-FBI Director James Comey on Dec. 9, 2016.

Steele messaged Wood 10 days later, seemingly complaining about how McCain handled the dossier.

“JM appears to have bottled it and left DK exposed,” Steele wrote, referring to McCain and Kramer by their initials.

“Indications are that wealthy R donors are buying off the critics,” he continued. “So much for patriotism! But JM has the info and therefore is compromised anyway. All quite depressing. Maybe let’s catch up in person later in the week.”

Wood responded, saying: “Yes, but not surprising. I thought the stratagem unlikely to succeed…”

Gubarev’s lawyers said they were uncertain what “strategem” Steele and Wood were working on, though they plan to ask Steele about it during his testimony this week.

The lawyers also revealed that Steele strategized with Kramer about contacts with the media.

Kramer had provided a copy of the dossier in late December 2016 to a reporter for BuzzFeed News. Steele has denied authorizing Kramer to share the dossier with journalists and has asserted that he was unaware of Kramer’s media contacts.

But Gubarev’s lawyers asserted Monday that Steele was keenly aware of Kramer’s interactions with journalists.

In one message on Jan. 2, 2017, Steele appeared to urge Kramer to not confirm that he was a source for David Corn, the Mother Jones journalist.

“Also, what might your line be tomorrow if they ask you if your ‘trusted foreign source is the same as david corn’s? best to avoid confirming this if possible i think,” Steele wrote.

Kramer contacted Steele on Jan. 5, 2017 , saying that Washington Post columnist David Ignatius wanted to meet him.

“I told him very unlikely. Don’t shoot the messenger,” Kramer wrote.

Kramer messaged Steele the following day, saying: “Had a good chat with ABC tonight but they have a request: bifurcate what you have from your source and what came from here that might be less reliable.”

The dossier mainly details long-disputed allegations of collusion between Trump associates and the Kremlin. But a memo from the dossier dated Dec. 13, 2017 accuses Gubarev of using his tech company, WebZilla, to facilitate hacks of Democrats.

Gubarev has vehemently denied the charged and has sued both BuzzFeed News and Steele.

NONE of the Russians named in the dossier were indicted by Mueller

The lawsuit is the first to dossier-related case to go to trial in either the U.S. or the U.K. The judge presiding over the Gubarev lawsuit ruled against Steele in other dossier-related litigation earlier this month. In that case, the judge awarded damages to the owners of Alfa Bank, who also sued Steele over the dossier. That case did not go to trial.

Gubarev’s lawyers argue that not only are Steele’s dossier allegations inaccurate, but that the ex-spy helped circulate them to reporters without first verifying the underlying information.

The various lawsuits against Steele have provided a roadmap of how the retired spy and his dossier client, Fusion GPS, spread allegations about Trump through the press.
 
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how timely.

NONE of the Russians named in the dossier were indicted by Mueller


Robert Mueller has a history of ignoring malfeasance within his sphere of influence. In 2008, as a police sergeant serving in the city where the "fugitive from justice" James "Whitey" Bulger was arrested three years later, I provided what a appeared to be a viable lead and potential evidence in cases associated with the offender. The FBI failed to follow-up on the information and when Bulger was arrested three years later, denied having received it. When offered a recording from the taped line (in our Watch Commander's Office) that preserved my conversation with the West Los Angeles FBI "Duty Agent", they refused to accept it.

I didn't want to hijack your OP sdy, but I saw no way to contact you via email, and hope you'd listen to an interview that I gave on the podcast "Things Police See" which outlines my experience and concerns about FBI accountability in general and particularly the lack of "leadership" of then director Robert Mueller. Note that Page One of the DOJ-OIG Audit of the FBI's Management of CHS Validation Processes (Released 11/2019), specifically refers to the "mishandling" of the Bulger Case as having provided "lessons" that supposedly led to changes in protocols to prevent the issues we're talking about. Obviously these lessons didn't mean anything to FBI management after all. Roll Eyes

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/...ccounts/id1384355891


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pulicords,

I listened to the entire podcast. An amazing story. A very scary story. Thanks for sharing.

recommended to all, but - it is long. 2.5 hours

I so long for some FBI leadership that holds people accountable. I have been involved w many organizations. It is well known that "mission statements" and rah rah speeches have little impact on an organization.

It is the accountability standards that are enforced and demanded by the top management down thru the chain of command to the lowest level that wind up defining the organizational integrity and degree of trust felt by the American people.

I'll be reading your posts thru a diff lens.
 
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sdy: Thank you. I'm hoping this story will get out enough so that something official will come of it. I wish I could have shortened the recital, but being a former homicide investigator, details matter to me and I'm probably a bit OCD! Wink

ETA: I copied this page from the FBI's website in the days following Bulger's arrest in 2011. Note the quote I highlighted in yellow and who made it.

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hey ! how about a new Comey book !

James Comey:

New book coming. I hope it will be useful as our country works — starting in 2021 — to restore faith in Justice.

"Saving Justice"
"Truth, Transparency, and Trust"

by James Comey

James Comey uses his long career in federal law enforcement to illuminate the core values
of the Department of Justice and the path to restoring them.


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Devin Nunes playing it cute



Nunes:

"There was the development of the dossier, the dissemination of the dossier, and the defense of the dossier."

"Brookings Institute was for sure involved in the dissemination and defense of the dossier."

"We don't know yet, were they involved in the development? "




 
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