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I was worried the Appeals Court would not do the right and legal thing in this case, so really glad to hear the news. Now, I want to see Comey and the entire bunch arrested for their crimes!
June 24, 2020, 12:37 PM
lastmanstanding
I hope Trump finds a well paying position for General Flynn somewhere in his administration.
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June 24, 2020, 12:38 PM
MikeinNC
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Originally posted by 12131: Rush was mentioning something about Sullivan still dragging this case out possibly passed the election. Goddamn buffoon.
I’d bet money that Sullivan doubles down and asks for all of the appeal judges to weigh in...just to drag it out.
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June 24, 2020, 12:50 PM
TXJIM
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Originally posted by MikeinNC:
quote:
Originally posted by 12131: Rush was mentioning something about Sullivan still dragging this case out possibly passed the election. Goddamn buffoon.
I’d bet money that Sullivan doubles down and asks for all of the appeal judges to weigh in...just to drag it out.
I hope he does, the more he drags this out the more light gets shined on the cockroaches. Had he simply dismissed the case, as he should have, we wouldn't have seen these notes directly implicating Biden and Bummer.
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June 24, 2020, 12:52 PM
sdy
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I was worried the Appeals Court would not do the right and legal thing
me too. I didn't think Judge Henderson was going to stand tall.
Are Strzok's notes from being debriefed by Comey ?
If Sullivan fights to drag this out, that keeps it in the public eye even longer. The more press this gets, the more damage to DEMs and obama administration. (TXJIM beat me to it)
I wonder if that latest release that came w Strzok's notes is what pushed Henderson ?
Maybe Lisa Page can explain all this on NBC/MSNBC
June 24, 2020, 12:53 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by lastmanstanding: I hope Trump finds a well paying position for General Flynn somewhere in his administration.
You really think Flynn wants anything to do with working in DC ever again? He should sue the shit out of the key criminals here and retire in the mountains or on an island somewhere.
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June 24, 2020, 12:54 PM
doublesharp
as long as appeal is ongoing Flynn is gagged. Not good. He can and should name names now not after the election
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June 24, 2020, 02:09 PM
c1steve
"Flynn is very very lucky he fired his prior lawyers (from Eric Holder's firm)".
This makes me think that his prior attorneys were doing a mediocre or poor job, to help out the Democrats. How could Flynn go to Eric Holder's firm in the first place? That is asking for trouble.
-c1steve
June 24, 2020, 02:52 PM
Shaql
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding: I hope Trump finds a well paying position for General Flynn somewhere in his administration.
Special prosecutor!
Hedley Lamarr: Wait, wait, wait. I'm unarmed. Bart: Alright, we'll settle this like men, with our fists. Hedley Lamarr: Sorry, I just remembered . . . I am armed.
June 24, 2020, 03:00 PM
GT-40DOC
I will be surprised if Gen. Flynn's lawyer does not sue on his behalf to recoup the millions of dollars that the General has spent. I hope Sidney P. busts all of their nuts in plain public view.
June 24, 2020, 03:21 PM
Sig2340
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Originally posted by GT-40DOC: I will be surprised if Gen. Flynn's lawyer does not sue on his behalf to recoup the millions of dollars that the General has spent. I hope Sidney P. busts all of their nuts in plain public view.
Except LTG Flynn has no grounds to sue the individuals involved. He can make a claim with the fed.gov for his legal fees but that's about it.
Nice is overrated
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June 24, 2020, 03:32 PM
sdy
Flynn paid his previous lawyers millions of dollars. I would not be surprised if he did go after them.
They gave him terrible advice that could be considered outright lies.
Flynn's former lawyers had Mueller's team breathing down their necks too.
June 24, 2020, 03:39 PM
c1steve
sdy,
Do you think that the terrible advice was intentional, or just poor lawyering?
-c1steve
June 24, 2020, 03:41 PM
sdy
Catherine Herridge says the latest Strzok notes were "believed to be" from 4 Jan 2017.
#FLYNN Defense motion reveals recently uncovered agent Strzok notes, discovered by US Attorney Jensen as part of DOJ review. “Strzok’s notes believed to be of January 4, 2017, reveal that former President Obama, James Comey, Sally Yates, Joe Biden, and apparently Susan Rice ...
discussed the transcripts of Flynn’s calls and how to proceed against him. Mr. Obama himself directed that “the right people” investigate General Flynn. This caused former FBI Director Comey to acknowledge the obvious: General Flynn’s phone calls with Ambassador Kislyak ...
“appear legit.” According to Strzok’s notes, it appears that Vice President Biden personally raised the idea of the Logan Act. " @CBSNew
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so if that's right, this was not part of the 5 Jan 2017 intel/FBI session w obama.
It was a mtg before 5 Jan 2017.
obama gave the green light to go after Flynn even knowing the Flynn/Kisylak calls were legit
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"Do you think that the terrible advice was intentional, or just poor lawyering?"
Mueller's team had a favorite tactic - go after the target's lawyers too.
Flynn's lawyers were under Mueller team pressure about FARA related advice they had given and some decisions they had made. Can't remember the full details right now. There has been some things revealed that the former lawyers knew the FBI agents who interviewed Flynn thought he was telling the truth. But the lawyers never told Flynn that and advised him to plea guilty.
“Delighted to see the Rule of Law work. The Court of Appeals decision is consistent with every other court that has addressed these issues.”
“We appreciate the Integrity and professionalism of the Department of Justice that produced the exculpatory evidence that has been hidden for years , and the prosecutors stepping forward to dismiss a case that never should have been brought.
“We trust that Judge Sullivan will follow the law and quickly enter the order of dismissal,” Powell said.
Flynn called into The Rush Limbaugh Show to thank the host and his listeners for their support during the ongoing ordeal.
Limbaugh said that Flynn had signed the dismissal order, but Judge Emmet Sullivan had yet to do so, according to a show transcript.
Flynn praised Powell, saying his attorney “is the American guardian of justice.”
“And she’s somebody who you want in your corner, boy, when you’re in the middle of a knife fight, which I have been in.”
June 24, 2020, 05:19 PM
XinTX
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
quote:
Originally posted by 12131: Rush was mentioning something about Sullivan still dragging this case out possibly passed the election. Goddamn buffoon.
I’d bet money that Sullivan doubles down and asks for all of the appeal judges to weigh in...just to drag it out.
If it drags out, don't Flynn's lawyers retain the right of discovery?
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June 24, 2020, 05:42 PM
Flashlightboy
quote:
Originally posted by XinTX:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
quote:
Originally posted by 12131: Rush was mentioning something about Sullivan still dragging this case out possibly passed the election. Goddamn buffoon.
I’d bet money that Sullivan doubles down and asks for all of the appeal judges to weigh in...just to drag it out.
If it drags out, don't Flynn's lawyers retain the right of discovery?
No. That's because Flynn already plead guilty and the only thing in Sullivan's lap was to determine the sentance. Then Flynn filed a motion to withdraw his guilty plea. Then the DOJ filed their dismissal request.
The only issue on further appeal is whether Sullivan has legal authority to deny the DOJ dismissal request. Further discovery is not in play and the sole question is whether Sullivan followed the law.
At this point Sullivan can file a request for the full appellate court to hear the appeal and thereafter the Supremes can consider an appeal by either side.
Here is what sundance of CTH thinks happened. (his best guess)
Strzok provided Comey w draft transcripts of Flynn calls to Kislyak (Russian ambassador)
Comey passed those transcripts to Clapper (DNI)
Clapper briefed those transcripts to obama ( 3 Jan 2017 ?). Comey was not there
Clapper told Comey what transpired
Comey relayed that to Strzok who took notes on 4 Jan 2017
Strzok immediately stops the FBI investigation of Flynn from being closed (we know that happened on 4 Jan 2017)
"Again, the background of these notes appears to be Comey relaying information to Peter Strzok about what the White House position is following their reception of the CR cuts. I do not believe Obama and Biden have talked to Comey. Instead the most likely scenario is DNI James Clapper relaying to Comey… who then relays to Strzok.
If my researched position is accurate, the day after these notes, January 5, 2017, Comey then meets with Obama and Biden as scheduled to discuss the Intelligence Community Assessment report that was previously requested by the White House."
"Once DNI James Clapper briefed Obama and Biden on the Flynn intercepts, the White House now lost plausible deniability for their knowledge of Flynn being investigated. The January 5th instructions to James Comey was purposefully the Obama/Biden White House cleaning up that potentially explosive issue. Everyone was covering their ass."