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He is such an idiot, he should have just quietly sulked away but he keeps getting in front of the camera and opening his lying yap.

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He is such an idiot, he should have just quietly sulked away but he keeps getting in front of the camera and opening his lying yap.

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Standard leftist nonsense. It's someone else's fault. When the questions started getting asked, a real leader would have had a look at the allegations and verified that they were not true, or if they were true a real leader would have sought to sort out the problems. Instead, this clown decides to offer a strong opinion on something he wants people to believe he knew nothing about. Sorry but the options are gross incompetence, or malfeasance, there is no option that makes him look good.


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Standard leftist nonsense. It's someone else's fault. When the questions started getting asked, a real leader would have had a look at the allegations and verified that they were not true, or if they were true a real leader would have sought to sort out the problems. Instead, this clown decides to offer a strong opinion on something he wants people to believe he knew nothing about. Sorry but the options are gross incompetence, or malfeasance, there is no option that makes him look good.


Comey signed his name at the bottom of those applications for a warrant(s), under "Penalty of Perjury." HIS NAME !!! Feigning ignorance just isn't going to cut it, coming from a guy that knowingly leaked classified documents to a friend and directed that friend (a lawyer that Comey knew could claim "Attorney-Client Privilege") to leak the information to the press on his behalf! He wasn't ignorant, he was arrogant and he still thinks he can pull this bullshit on the American public, with assistance from his friends in Congress and the media.


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That interview with Chris Wallace was a real eye opener. Really worth the 15 minutes of anyone's time to watch.
The strange and most scary thing is that I don't think Comey feels he's lying, I really think he has a delusional belief that he's telling the truth.
The farther into the interview you watch, the more amazing it is.


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I was thinking something similar.

I’m not making excuses for him, but at the beginning (early 2016 or so) he may have thought Donald Trump would be a terrible president. It is obvious he and Donald Trump are complete opposites.

Then when he started getting fed stories of Trump campaign colluding w Russia (spring 2016), he may have gone into “save the country” mode. Comey may have been less of a conspiracy leader at that time, as compared to a guy who got played by the Clinton team and Fusion GPS. Once he bit hard, he approved the FISA warrants.

The FBI defenders like to say that opening the July 2016 counterintelligence investigation was within the authority of Peter Strzok. That is pretty scary too. Strzok was 4 management layers below Comey. Someone so far down the chain could open a counterintel op into the administration’s opposition party campaign ? Comey bought into it though. He signed the first three warrants.

Once he was committed to stopping Donald Trump, he was investigating him even after the election and lying to Trump that Trump was not the target. Trump was always the target. Perhaps in Comey’s mind it was okay to lie to Donald Trump because he was treating Trump as literally a Russian agent.

“by the book”

Given the profound mistake that Comey made in spying on the Trump campaign, at some point he probably realized he was wrong. That he just made perhaps the biggest mistake the FBI ever made in its entire history , may have been impossible for him to process. He won’t accept it because he can’t accept it without declaring himself the dumbest and “sloppiest” and “most duped” FBI DIR of all time.

Early on, couple years ago, it was reported in some stories that McCabe was the mastermind of the coup attempt and talked Comey into it. Didn’t take much to convince Comey.

For all Comey talks about the wonderful FBI, his decisions have left the public trust in the FBI in total shambles. He keeps saying Trump is damaging the FBI. No, James Comey, YOU ruined the FBI reputation . By his continual denial of the obvious, he keeps reinforcing the fact that the public should mistrust the FBI until it house cleans with a savage determination.
 
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I was thinking something similar.

I’m not making excuses for him, but at the beginning (early 2016 or so) he may have thought Donald Trump would be a terrible president. It is obvious he and Donald Trump are complete opposites.

Then when he started getting fed stories of Trump campaign colluding w Russia (spring 2016), he may have gone into “save the country” mode. Comey may have been less of a conspiracy leader at that time, as compared to a guy who got played by the Clinton team and Fusion GPS. Once he bit hard, he approved the FISA warrants.

The FBI defenders like to say that opening the July 2016 counterintelligence investigation was within the authority of Peter Strzok. That is pretty scary too. Strzok was 4 management layers below Comey. Someone so far down the chain could open a counterintel op into the administration’s opposition party campaign ? Comey bought into it though. He signed the first three warrants.

Once he was committed to stopping Donald Trump, he was investigating him even after the election and lying to Trump that Trump was not the target. Trump was always the target. Perhaps in Comey’s mind it was okay to lie to Donald Trump because he was treating Trump as literally a Russian agent.

“by the book”

Given the profound mistake that Comey made in spying on the Trump campaign, at some point he probably realized he was wrong. That he just made perhaps the biggest mistake the FBI ever made in its entire history , may have been impossible for him to process. He won’t accept it because he can’t accept it without declaring himself the dumbest and “sloppiest” and “most duped” FBI DIR of all time.

Early on, couple years ago, it was reported in some stories that McCabe was the mastermind of the coup attempt and talked Comey into it. Didn’t take much to convince Comey.

For all Comey talks about the wonderful FBI, his decisions have left the public trust in the FBI in total shambles. He keeps saying Trump is damaging the FBI. No, James Comey, YOU ruined the FBI reputation . By his continual denial of the obvious, he keeps reinforcing the fact that the public should mistrust the FBI until it house cleans with a savage determination.


Assuming this were true, and Comey was in a mindset where he felt he was saving the country, why was he so far out of the loop with respect to policies, procedures and evidence? It seems that if he were to have believed that Trump actually posed a threat, he might have made sure that things were done correctly. He might even have made himself familiar with the case, its origins, its key people. Yet time and time again, his public responses showed a complete lack of understanding and obliviousness to the real facts.
So again, he is the most inept leader imaginable, or he was corrupt.


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Standard leftist nonsense. It's someone else's fault. When the questions started getting asked, a real leader would have had a look at the allegations and verified that they were not true, or if they were true a real leader would have sought to sort out the problems. Instead, this clown decides to offer a strong opinion on something he wants people to believe he knew nothing about. Sorry but the options are gross incompetence, or malfeasance, there is no option that makes him look good.


What about the option that he was/is part of the swamp, and doing his damned best to bring down the president?

I listened to his whole presentation about the hildabeast's criminality. AIR, some 20 minutes of laying out his case. Then he closes with some BS about not enough to prosecute!

Comey has been a swamp dweller his whole career, and will never change.


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I’m not making excuses for him, but at the beginning (early 2016 or so) he may have thought Donald Trump would be a terrible president. It is obvious he and Donald Trump are complete opposites.

Then when he started getting fed stories of Trump campaign colluding w Russia (spring 2016), he may have gone into “save the country” mode. Comey may have been less of a conspiracy leader at that time, as compared to a guy who got played by the Clinton team and Fusion GPS. Once he bit hard, he approved the FISA warrants.



I think you're giving him too much credit. He wasn't being snowed by establishment, he was part of the storm.



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he is the most inept leader imaginable, or he was corrupt.



Why "or"? In my book he is both!

If the FBI is/was so screwed up that they allowed him to reach that position in the organization, what does that say about the rest of them?


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That interview with Chris Wallace was a real eye opener. Really worth the 15 minutes of anyone's time to watch.
The strange and most scary thing is that I don't think Comey feels he's lying, I really think he has a delusional belief that he's telling the truth.
The farther into the interview you watch, the more amazing it is.


Comey is a complete and utter sociopath.


 
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That interview with Chris Wallace was a real eye opener. Really worth the 15 minutes of anyone's time to watch.


Devastating: Chris Wallace Grills, Dismantles Comey on IG Report

On yesterday's edition of Fox News Sunday, anchor Chris Wallace repeatedly challenged fired FBI Director James Comey over the findings of the DOJ Inspector General's report on the agency's Trump-Russia investigation -- again and again contrasting Comey's own words with those of Michael Horowitz. Comey's strongest talking point, which he deployed several times, was to knock down the most cartoonish allegations leveled against him by some of the president's defenders. But beyond that, it was a brutal performance by the Bureau's ex-chief, with Wallace holding his feet to the fire for 15 solid minutes. The full clip is worth your time, and I'll add some commentary below:



https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...n-ig-report-n2558027



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he is the most inept leader imaginable, or he was corrupt.



Why "or"? In my book he is both!

If the FBI is/was so screwed up that they allowed him to reach that position in the organization, what does that say about the rest of them?


I agree, however Comey seems to be unsure.


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https://theconservativetreehou...ng-for-january-28th/

In an order released moments ago, Federal Judge Emmet Sullivan has denied all of the Brady requests by the Flynn defense lawyer and summarily rejected the position of defense counsel. Flynn sentencing is scheduled for January 28th, 2020.

Judge Sullivan relies heavily on the Mueller report and finds: the case was adequately predicated and authorized by Rod Rosenstein; the original guilty plea to Judge Contreras was appropriately informed; the government followed all appropriate notifications for brady material; the evidence of Flynn’s guilt is accurately demonstrable to the guilty plea Mr. Flynn accepted; and there was no prosecutorial misconduct.

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Judge Sullivan sounds like a very antiTrump kinda guy
 
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https://theconservativetreehou...ng-for-january-28th/



In an order released moments ago, Federal Judge Emmet Sullivan has denied all of the Brady requests by the Flynn defense lawyer and summarily rejected the position of defense counsel. Flynn sentencing is scheduled for January 28th, 2020.

Judge Sullivan relies heavily on the Mueller report and finds: the case was adequately predicated and authorized by Rod Rosenstein; the original guilty plea to Judge Contreras was appropriately informed; the government followed all appropriate notifications for brady material; the evidence of Flynn’s guilt is accurately demonstrable to the guilty plea Mr. Flynn accepted; and there was no prosecutorial misconduct.

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Judge Sullivan sounds like a very antiTrump kinda guy


I read it a little differently.

While not blessing the totality of how the FBI did what it did, the taint of their conduct was sufficiently removed because Flynn repeated the same lie to others at different times.

If Flynn felt pressued to tell the FBI what it wanted to hear but then stuck to his original truthful story, I think the judge would have ruled differently but that's not what Flynn did.

He told the same lie more than once and that is what sinks him, IMO. It wasn't just a process error but rather a continuing tale of the lie.
 
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“A federal judge blasted the FBI on Tuesday for repeatedly submitting applications to wiretap former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page that were riddled with errors and omissions, and ordered the government to inform the court on how it plans to reform the process.

The scathing order from Rosemary Collyer, the presiding judge over the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA), marks the first time the court has responded to the controversy, which became public last week with the release of a report by Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz.

Horowitz's probe scrutinized the FBI's actions in the early stages of its investigation into contacts between Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and Russia, known as Operation Crossfire Hurricane…”

https://mol.im/a/7803115



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Rosemary Collyer is disappointing and her letter is disappointing.

For 3 years she has sat quietly as every month showed she and the other judges had been lied to.

This wasn't "sloppy" work.
It wasn't poor procedures.
It wasn't lack of oversight.

The FBI lied to the FISC and all 4 FISC judges
They lied to Rosemary Collyer.
They lied to Michael Mosman
They lied to Anne Conway
They lied to Raymond Dearie

Collyer sends this letter that tells the FBI to report what it plans to do to ensure the FBI applications are accurate and that all the material info is provided to the court.

BFD

and the FBI has to provide a time table for implementing such measures

Collyer and the other judges sat there and watched the Trump administration get ripped apart by phony false claims by the FBI, CIA, and DEM elected officials. They never publicly said "Wait! Those claims are not true."

And now Collyer wants an FBI time table to fix the problem of an attempted FBI coup against the President of the United States.

All 4 of these judges should be removed from the FISC court. They were duped on some of the most outrageous and untruthful claims to get a FISA warrant. They watched lives being destroyed. And now they want a time table.

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Above was posted at 4:29pm

About an hour later, CTH posted

https://theconservativetreehou...cations/#more-178847

The bottom line is without actual legal accountability for the fraud, everything is just a matter of words without consequence. Judge Collyer is angry, but so what… is she going to hold anyone accountable? Thus the frustration outlined by Devin Nunes last weekend.

Judicial opinions, strongly worded letters, court orders, insufferable justifications, and government promises of corrective actions are meaningless when real Americans are harmed by gross abuses of power.

Devin Nunes had it right on Sunday…. shut down the FISA court!

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barking up the same tree.

CTH offers the possibility in their article that Collyer will release her response to the classified version of the DoJ IG report

"On December 9th, when the IG report was made public, the FISC was given a declassified version of the report and was able to review for the first time. It was from that IG review that Collyer was able to establish the full context of the fraud upon the court. The court was given no advanced notification as to the totality of fraud upon the FISC other than a preliminary ‘head’s up’ on the OGC Clinesmith compromise.

As a result of the IG report, Collyer is now telling the DOJ to declassify her response of December 5th, because she is going to make it public. Judge Collyer is not asking the ODNI (ostensibly now AG Bill Barr), to declassify her response – she is telling him to declassify it."

I think it was Nunes that asked Collyer for help a long time ago. She responded that congress should work it out w DoJ. That response was very disappointing too. We found out "DoJ" was corrupt and part of the conspiracy.

Nunes ltr of Feb 2018:

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I was thinking something similar.

I’m not making excuses for him, but at the beginning (early 2016 or so) he may have thought Donald Trump would be a terrible president. It is obvious he and Donald Trump are complete opposites.

Then when he started getting fed stories of Trump campaign colluding w Russia (spring 2016), he may have gone into “save the country” mode. Comey may have been less of a conspiracy leader at that time, as compared to a guy who got played by the Clinton team and Fusion GPS. Once he bit hard, he approved the FISA warrants.

The FBI defenders like to say that opening the July 2016 counterintelligence investigation was within the authority of Peter Strzok. That is pretty scary too. Strzok was 4 management layers below Comey. Someone so far down the chain could open a counterintel op into the administration’s opposition party campaign ? Comey bought into it though. He signed the first three warrants.

Once he was committed to stopping Donald Trump, he was investigating him even after the election and lying to Trump that Trump was not the target. Trump was always the target. Perhaps in Comey’s mind it was okay to lie to Donald Trump because he was treating Trump as literally a Russian agent.

“by the book”

Given the profound mistake that Comey made in spying on the Trump campaign, at some point he probably realized he was wrong. That he just made perhaps the biggest mistake the FBI ever made in its entire history , may have been impossible for him to process. He won’t accept it because he can’t accept it without declaring himself the dumbest and “sloppiest” and “most duped” FBI DIR of all time.

Early on, couple years ago, it was reported in some stories that McCabe was the mastermind of the coup attempt and talked Comey into it. Didn’t take much to convince Comey.

For all Comey talks about the wonderful FBI, his decisions have left the public trust in the FBI in total shambles. He keeps saying Trump is damaging the FBI. No, James Comey, YOU ruined the FBI reputation . By his continual denial of the obvious, he keeps reinforcing the fact that the public should mistrust the FBI until it house cleans with a savage determination.



I could buy this if it weren't for the" No reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case" Talking about Hillary Clinton mishandling classified information.
Comey is a low life lying scum. He knew better and just thought Americans were stupid and would accept his lies.


And yes it is time to shut down the FISA secret courts, we tried it and it failed us.The critics were right to condemn it when it was first initiated,and they said then it would be abused.


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And yes it is time to shut down the FISA secret courts, we tried it and it failed us.

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) is ringing alarm bells about the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court [FISC], saying that it is culpable, along with the FBI, for the improper wiretapping of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, and needs to be dismantled.

Nunes, the ranking Republican member on the House Intelligence Committee, joined Fox News’ Martha MacCallum Tuesday evening to discuss the FISA court’s tardy rebuke of the FBI’s handling of its surveillance-application process, and for the second time this week, he called for the secret court to be shut down.

Tuesday night, Nunes argued that it is somewhat disingenuous for Collyer to claim today that she has concerns about fraud upon the court when the House Intelligence Committee notified the court of the substantial errors almost two years ago.
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“I’m glad to see the FISC court come out and make a statement but your viewers need to know that the FISC court is also culpable in this madness, and I say that because we sent them two letters—very specific letters,” Nunes told MacCallum.

The California congressman explained that Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee sent Collyer the first letter in February of 2018, informing the court “of very serious matters” that they had found in their investigation. He said the court did absolutely nothing about it. The second letter, he said, was sent in the summer of 2018 after the House GOP found out about the exculpatory evidence the FBI had left off of their FISA applications.

“The point here Martha is the court knew about all of this,” Nunes said. “I’m glad they’ve acted, I’m glad they said something, but the court needs to be ended,” he argued.



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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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