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Originally posted by Aglifter:
Vaccination records for travel are not a new thing.

And with a Malaria vaccine we have many, many, years of studies and actual results to rely on to prove there is actually a benefit there. This damn Covid vaccine has been rushed through with limited testing, so what's to say it will actually deliver on its promise of thwarting this bug? What if, instead of it being 94%+ successful, its only 40-50% successful? Everybody is way ahead and jumping the gun on this which proves to me once again there is 'zero' rational, intelligent, thought going into any of this BS. Anyone claiming this vaccine is near 100% effective or totally safe is talking out their lower orifice.

Tne entry requirement isn't a vaccine. It's a covid test. Same as most places.

We accepted the notion of so called 'Hate speech. Now free speech is a distant fond memory and we are headed for INGSOC at hyper speed. If we accept this new trespass to individual liberty, there is no limit to the tyranny and corruption that will assuredly result.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
Vaccination records for travel are not a new thing.

This is such a line of BS. Yes, it is not a new thing per se, but it is also not typical. It is simply not normal or an accepted practice for one to have to provide vaccination papers to travel to most anywhere, especially in the Western world.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
Aruba requires proof of a negative test for entry, as well as proof of health insurance.

Jet Blue flies to Aruba. Tickets are quite inexpensive, for the time being.

Not from Austin...or Dallas...gotta go to Boston first...and before C19, it was a direct flight...four or five more hours in the air ain’t cutting it.

Fuck em. I’ll drive to see the Grand Canyon or a giant ball of twine....

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
Vaccination records for travel are not a new thing.

Um, I’m not a globe trotter, per se, but I’ve been to a fair number of countries, and I’ve never needed to show proof of a vaccine. Ever. Not even when I flew in and out of Mexico in November, which was my most recent trip. Not when I flew over seas in the 80’s. And not anywhere in between. Just a current passport.

This really does suck. I hope there is some sort of abstention allowed at some point.

This may not be “typical” in the western world, but that’s because there hasn’t been a highly transmissible disease like this, with these types of serious and deadly outcomes, in the past 50 years or so. Is it really too much for a foreign country to ask whether or not you currently have a disease that has already killed thousands of their citizens? Seems logical to me.

As for American Airlines going out of business over this, that won’t happen. If anything, most of the flying public will view this as a convenient way to prove that you have tested negative for the virus.

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Originally posted by bogeyman:
This may not be “typical” in the western world, but that’s because there hasn’t been a highly transmissible disease like this, with these types of serious and deadly outcomes, in the past 50 years or so.

What disease are you talking about? Covid? Surely not.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:


This is such a line of BS. Yes, it is not a new thing per se, but it is also not typical. It is simply not normal or an accepted practice for one to have to provide vaccination papers to travel to most anywhere, especially in the Western world.

It's standard presently, to require a negative covid test, almost everywhere.

So far as vaccine, the only vaccine presently required in international travel is yellow fever. I compiled a list and posted in a different thread, though it may not be complete. The countries currently requiring proof of vaccination are:

Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Argentina, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Belize, Benin, Bolivia, Botswana, Brazil, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Central African Republic, Chad, Chile, China, Christmas Island, Cocos Island, Colombia, Comoros Islands, Congo (Brazzaville), Congo (Democratic Republic, Kinshasha), Costa Rica, Cote d’Ivoire, Cuba, Djibouti, Ecuador, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Fiji, Gabon, Gambia, Ghana, Guatemala, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Guyana, Haiti, India, Indonesia, Iraq, Ivory Coast, Jordan, Kenya, Kuwait, Laos, Lebanon, Lesotho, Liberia, Libya, Macau, Madagascar, Malawi, Malaysia, Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mauritania, Mauritius, Morocco, Mozambique, Myanmar, Nambia, Nauru, Nepal, Niger, Nigeria, Norfolk Island, Oman, Pakistan, Palau Islands, Panama, Papua New guinea, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Puerto Rico, Qatar, Russia, Rwanda, Sao Tome and Principe, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, Seychelles, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Solomon Islands, Somalia, South Africa, South Sudan, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Sumatra, Suriname, Swaziland, Syria, Taiwan, Tanzania, Thailand, timor, Togo, Trinidad, Tobago, Tunesia, Turkey, Uganda, Ukraine, Uraguay, Vanuatu, Venezuela, Vietnam, Wallis and Futuna, Yemen, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.

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What disease are you talking about? Covid? Surely not

I am talking about Covid......and don’t call me Shirley.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

It's standard presently, to require a negative covid test, almost everywhere.

I'm quite aware.

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So far as vaccine, the only vaccine presently required in international travel is yellow fever. I compiled a list and posted in a different thread, though it may not be complete. The countries currently requiring proof of vaccination are:

Well, I flew to South Africa in 2015 with my wife and don't recall ever providing any proof of any vaccination.

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Originally posted by bogeyman:

I am talking about Covid......and don’t call me Shirley.

Appreciate the laugh.

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Originally posted by jljones:
Hey, I have an idea? How about a tattoo. You know, like a bar code. Everybody can get it on their forearm. You know, to show you care. Just one small sacrifice to keep others safe.

I wear long sleeves, how about a patch I can sew on my clothing?

The tattoo and patch are for those who DON'T get vaccinated.

Well, good news. In a final effort to sabotage the incoming admin, trump attempted to lift travel restrictions from the most heavily infected areas (Brazil, etc). Protecting his sheep to the end.

Fortunately, that won't fly. And neither will people from those locations, without a negative test.

It goes both ways. Get the negative test, to be allowed entry.

It has zero, zilch, nada, nothing, zippo, to do with American airlines.

A negative test is required by various US states, for entry, too. Go figure.

A negative test means you were clean up to the test. Maybe you got infected leaving the testing site? Vaccine lasts how long? Is it 100% effective?
This is all uncharted territory.

I can't believe so many otherwise intelligent people are so brainwashed. Patriots who would normally question everything deny the seriousness of a deadly pandemic. Why? Because the president won't wear a mask? Who are the sheep? Look in a mirror. Griping because their vacation plans were disrupted? Geez.

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Originally posted by Flash-LB:
Here's why it doesn't violate HIPPA:

The HIPAA Privacy Rule permits providers to share immunization records with public health officials for public health purposes as otherwise authorized by law. Under the VFC statute, at 42 U.S.C.

American Airlines is neither a "provider" (of medical services) nor a "public health official" so that exemption does not apply.

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Originally posted by jljones:
Hey, I have an idea? How about a tattoo. You know, like a bar code. Everybody can get it on their forearm. You know, to show you care. Just one small sacrifice to keep others safe.

I want mine on my head, like in Hitman....

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Originally posted by cne32507:
I can't believe so many otherwise intelligent people are so brainwashed. Patriots who would normally question everything deny the seriousness of a deadly pandemic. Why? Because the president won't wear a mask? Who are the sheep? Look in a mirror. Griping because their vacation plans were disrupted? Geez.

Do you require proof of anything in your life? One, just provide me with one peer reviewed study that gives us any substantial evidence that wearing these ridiculous tablecloth or t-shirt masks accomplishes anything? You can't because there aren't any. And forgive me if I'm unwilling to accept the conjecture of people like Fauci and others, you know, the exulted 'experts, when they've been wrong virtually 100% of the time on this virus. I'd also note there is growing empirical evidence from areas around the country that have been draconian about enforcing mask mandates (Ex. LA) that indicates the spread rate is every bit as high as areas that did not impose or enforce a mask mandates. Face it, this virus is very aggressive and is continuing to spread even in the face of these 'placebo' mask orders.

It's exactly the intelligent people who want to know that what we're being asked to do is actually accomplishing anything, or if it's just more government BS. And to this point we've been provided with exactly nothing that would answer that question for us, just a big "It science" and "Comply". Though the sheep are good with that approach, it's not a very good way to handle intelligent people.