https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...-appeals-court-rules

A $10 billion lawsuit by Mexico against U.S. gunmakers, alleging that the companies “deliberately” enabled firearms trafficking into the country, can move forward, an appeals court has ruled.

The lawsuit, filed by the Mexican government against seven American manufacturers and a distributor in 2021, alleged that the companies “deliberately facilitate gun trafficking” into Mexico, according to the Jan. 22 ruling issued by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 1st Circuit.

The complaint was initially filed at the federal district court in Massachusetts, which dismissed the lawsuit after deciding that U.S. gun companies were protected by the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) against Mexican claims.

The PLCAA prohibits certain lawsuits against gun manufacturers and sellers in U.S. federal and state courts. The appeals court agreed that “PLCAA’s limitations on the types of lawsuits that may be maintained in the United States apply to lawsuits initiated by foreign governments for harm suffered outside the United States.”

However, the appeals court observed that Mexico’s complaint potentially alleges a type of claim that could be “statutorily exempt” from PLCAA rules.

“We therefore reverse the district court’s holding that the PLCAA bars Mexico’s common law claims, and we remand for further proceedings,” the court stated.

“We conclude that the complaint adequately alleges that defendants aided and abetted the knowingly unlawful downstream trafficking of their guns into Mexico.”

The lawsuit seeks $10 billion in compensation.

Jonathan Lowy, president of Global Action on Gun Violence and co-counsel for the Mexican government in the case, welcomed the appeals court decision.

“Today’s ruling is a huge step forward in holding the gun industry accountable for its contribution to gun violence, and in stopping the flood of trafficked guns to the cartels,” he said in a Jan. 22 statement.

“Not only did the Court recognize the right of another country to sue U.S. gun companies, it also pierced the unfair legal shield that gun companies have been hiding behind since 2005.”

Texas-based litigator Steve Shadowen said the court ruling “marks an important step forward in holding the gun industry accountable for its role in transnational arms trafficking and in obtaining justice for the victims of their unlawful business practices, the people of Mexico.”

Arkansas Attorney General Tim Griffin told The Epoch Times in May 2023 that the lawsuit was “part of a broad strategy by anti-gun activists to try to shut down firearms manufacturing” in the United States.

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Mexico is a failed narco state run by Hunter Biden clones. Change my mind.

We need to sue Mexico for a Trillion or two for all the illegals they push through to us.

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Arkansas Attorney General Tim Griffin told The Epoch Times in May 2023 that the lawsuit was “part of a broad strategy by anti-gun activists to try to shut down firearms manufacturing” in the United States.

Bet if these companies moved manufacturing to Mexico the lawsuit would disappear...

Does anybody else remember those ads for ludicrously over-adorned 1911-pattern pistols in .38 Super in American Rifleman back in the day? .38 Super because .45 ACP was (is?) illegal in Mexico.

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Originally posted by architect:
Does anybody else remember those ads for ludicrously over-adorned 1911-pattern pistols in .38 Super in American Rifleman back in the day? .38 Super because .45 ACP was (is?) illegal in Mexico.

I did the import paperwork on a bunch of those guns from Mexico. 1982.

Declare war on Mexico. They are as big a threat to the US as China.

Is this action really sponsored by the cartels?

Maybe if Mexico would get rid of the cartels, guns would be a mute point. But for the cartels, how much gun usage would there be?

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
Declare war on Mexico. They are as big a threat to the US as China.

I've said it here several times, we need to annex Mexico. I've given a few forum members the vapors with that statement, but honestly, it's the right thing to do.

The appeals court isn't saying that Mexico's suit has merit, only that the specific claims in the suit aren't barred by PLCAA.

The irony of the Government of Mexico complaining about what a big problem trafficking is won't be lost.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
Declare war on Mexico. They are as big a threat to the US as China.

I've said it here several times, we need to annex Mexico. I've given a few forum members the vapors with that statement, but honestly, it's the right thing to do.

don't we have enough third world shitholes in the US already?

why would we want them, and all their problems - just put a minefield along the border and the problem is resolved

we don't want their people, we don't want their drugs, and we certainly don't want a country of welfare recipients all of a sudden our responsibility

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don't we have enough third world shitholes in the US already?

Maybe. But I'm talking a hypothetical that already assumes our government has it's priorities in order with us, the people, at the top of the list. In other words, I know it's pure fantasy. Our budget should be balanced and our borders should be secure... and our southern border should be with Guatemala.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
why would we want them, and all their problems - just put a minefield along the border and the problem is resolved

We've been playing empire games around the whole globe since WWII, but we ignore what's on our doorstep. We have, as best I can determine in my searching, over 750 military bases globally, in over 80 nations. You know how many of those are in Mexico? Again, from what I can find, there's zero. Imagine what we could accomplish in terms of raw materials, resources and commodities, import/exports, defense and more had we put even half of the work we put into say, Germany. Mexico's problems routinely get dumped on us anyway.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
we don't want their people, we don't want their drugs, and we certainly don't want a country of welfare recipients all of a sudden our responsibility

Let's be real: We already have their people, and we're paying for all the ones here, who in turn, send money back home to Mexico. This is in addition to the billions in aid we've sent Mexico directly. All their drugs already come here anyway, and we can't, or won't do much to actually interdict it. My father was Border Patrol for both the Cuban Crisis and the rise of the narco wars with Pablo Escobar, Pablo Acosta, and that whole fun. This is a massive problem that shares a chain link fence with us, and sometimes not even that. If we'd spent the last twenty years playing desert guerrilla games here on our continent instead of the other side of the world, I truly believe we'd be better off, but instead, we let the CIA send some of our tier 1 guys down there to train those assholes because they like funding their pet projects with black money from drugs. It will require military action at some point.

All that being off topic, I think we should tell Mexico to stuff their lawsuit up their ass, or maybe deduct whatever damages they think they've won from the aid package we send them yearly because they can't manage to run a country in a manner where for decades, people don't try to escape almost as fast as they can reproduce.

I have always idly wondered why we didn't annex the whole of Mexico back in 1848. That would have been a good time. But no, we actually reimbursed them partially for the southwestern states, and purchased additional land on the Arizona border (the Gadsden Purchase). It's Polk's fault!

The gun manufacturer's should file a motion to have the BATFE added as a defendent as they intentionally ran guns to Mexico w/o tracking. That'd allow the gun industry to subpoena BATFE records and depose a bunch of shitstains. I'd donate money to that legal strategy.

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Originally posted by smschulz:
We need to sue Mexico for a Trillion or two for all the illegals they push through to us.

^^^ This!!!

And send every fuckin’ illegal right back over the border!

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alleging that the companies “deliberately” enabled firearms trafficking into the country

Nooo...that was the US government doing that at the time.

They already got free guns from BATFELGBQdFGHJI, twice. Now what else do you want? Fuggoff

I was thinking about this a little further.

"Death by a thousand cuts"

I said this when they allowed the lawsuit against the manufacturer after one of the school shootings out east.

If the fuckin' liberals cant shut down the gun industry right now, they'll do it incrementally. Cut by cut, blow by blow. Over the course of years...