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I was under a general today for 3.5 hours and I feel like...

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November 09, 2022, 10:19 PM
wrightd
I was under a general today for 3.5 hours and I feel like...
I was under general anesthesia today for sinus surgery for about 3.5 hrs, and now I feel like shit. Is it the gas that makes you sick, or just the stress of surgery in general that makes you feel bad ? Or the post-op drugs, or all of it. What is the science behind those different factors ?




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November 09, 2022, 10:22 PM
pedropcola
Tough to say. The worst anesthesia I ever felt was when they kept pushing propofal (sp). It is apparently supposed to be for short durations and my procedure was taking longer and when I woke up it was like the worst hangover ever. I believe this is the stuff that killed Prince and Michael Jackson. When used properly you wake up feeling fantastic. Like post colonoscopy fantastic, best sleep ever.
November 09, 2022, 10:31 PM
wrightd
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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Tough to say. The worst anesthesia I ever felt was when they kept pushing propofal (sp). It is apparently supposed to be for short durations and my procedure was taking longer and when I woke up it was like the worst hangover ever. I believe this is the stuff that killed Prince and Michael Jackson. When used properly you wake up feeling fantastic. Like post colonoscopy fantastic, best sleep ever.

That's interesting. I asked about that this morning before my surgery since I was going under a general, they said the former is for short-duration procedures, because it soaks into your tissues so much that recovery can cause problems. Case in point I guess being Michael Jackson I suppose. As opposed to a gas general, which they said goes in and comes out quickly compared to propofol, negating post-op risks.




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November 09, 2022, 10:33 PM
2PAK
I was under recently for about 60 minutes and I remember telling my wife I haven't slept that good in years. I think the Ox also gave me the ultimate clear head mind for about a couple of days. Then, back to the same ol, same ol,.,.
November 09, 2022, 10:37 PM
wrightd
quote:
Originally posted by 2PAK:
I was under recently for about 60 minutes and I remember telling my wife I haven't slept that good in years. I think the Ox also gave me the ultimate clear head mind for about a couple of days. Then, back to the same ol, same ol,.,.

I would agree with that. The propafol I get for upper and lower scope jobs is a good sleep w/out negative affects that I can tell, short of driving of course.




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November 09, 2022, 10:40 PM
Beancooker
I’ve been knocked out quite a few times of late.
The best I felt was when they used propofol, and fentanyl. More common is propofol, fentanyl, and versed.

I have been knocked out with Sevoflurane and it’s terrible.

Your discharge papers should tell you exactly what they used. What did they dope you up with?

ETA, Sevoflurane has always been given to me as an inhalant. Fucking shitty pillow they inflate in the back of my throat. Pump in Sevoflurane and oxygen. Wake up with a horrid sore throat, and the worst tasting spit for hours. (The bad tasting spit is due to the scent in the Sevoflurane so if it’s leaking in the room, the doctors smell it).

***Edited a lot to the original post I made.

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November 09, 2022, 10:52 PM
pedropcola
Because of location of my cancer I get put out on a regular basis. Propofol has always been delivered in a short stubby syringe directly into my IV. Milky white and they start a sentence that I can only assume is “we are going to put you to sleep now” but I’ve never heard the entire sentence. Lol. Wake up normally with zero effects.
November 10, 2022, 06:54 AM
Beancooker
I was incorrect in my original post.

Looking back at discharge papers, propofol was always nice to be put under with.

Sevoflurane is awful. It’s the one with the bad taste and terrible hangover.



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November 10, 2022, 07:17 AM
parabellum
Light exercise- walking and the like- will help you feel a bit better.
November 10, 2022, 08:31 AM
Pipe Smoker
Sinus surgery sounds like a grim ordeal. I have no helpful advice to offer, but I hope and pray that you’re better soon.



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November 10, 2022, 08:35 AM
sigseller2000
After waking up may times 2 hours later than I was supposed to and puking my guts out, I now refuse fentanyl and versed. I'm a big guy and they always overload me then wonder why it is taking so long for me to come out of it, no matter how much I bitch at them to go easy. Now it is only propofol and it is fantastic. These are for quick endoscopy's which I get every other year, so not quite apples to apples. May just be your metabolism with what they gave you.
November 10, 2022, 09:17 AM
P220 Smudge
Do you know what it is that they used on you? My first time under was for a tonsillectomy. They had to admit me because they couldn't get me to come out of it. I finally started to come to some ten or twelve hours after the surgery, alone and in a hospital bed in the middle of the night in a room by myself. Very unsettling. I have no idea what they used, but there hasn't been a repeat since. Felt awful for a day or two after.

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Originally posted by wrightd:
quote:
Originally posted by 2PAK:
I was under recently for about 60 minutes and I remember telling my wife I haven't slept that good in years. I think the Ox also gave me the ultimate clear head mind for about a couple of days. Then, back to the same ol, same ol,.,.

I would agree with that. The propafol I get for upper and lower scope jobs is a good sleep w/out negative affects that I can tell, short of driving of course.


With you guys there. I was really nervous for my first scope, but I woke up feeling really rested. I've had three in the last two years, and I don't mind them now. I feel pretty good after... unless they get the bite block in weird and then I feel like I've been punched in the mouth. Since that first one, I mention it and they're more careful. Haven't left with a split lip since. Big Grin


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November 10, 2022, 11:46 AM
Kevbo
What Para said. I’ve been under general more times than I can remember. I’ve had 28 major surgeries in the last 30 years. The longest for more than 10 hours. Then throw in short things like colonoscopies etc and you could say I’m probably a subject matter expert

If you’re nauseous have them give you IV phenergin next time…when I first started surgery escapades I was always violently ill coming out of general and that cleared it right up

Drink a lot of water and move around if you can. It will help move it through your system

It also may be the pre and post surgery drugs you have an adverse reaction to (versed). But the solution is the same…hydrate and move around.


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November 10, 2022, 02:34 PM
cparktd
I have been under several times, 3 times for longer duration procedures and it's fantastic! Great dream free sound sleep. Never had any bad results from it... perhaps from the procedure it's self though...



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November 10, 2022, 02:45 PM
NavyGuy
When I had my major surgery, I experienced emergence delirium. It doesn't hurt but it was like being on LSD for a few hours. Not that I know exactly how that is, but I've read about it Wink



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November 10, 2022, 02:59 PM
erj_pilot
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November 10, 2022, 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
I'll take "Click Bait" for $200, Alex...

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November 10, 2022, 04:17 PM
erj_pilot
quote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
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"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
November 11, 2022, 06:14 AM
John Steed
Just for the record, Prince died from an overdose of fentanyl.



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November 11, 2022, 08:09 AM
SIGnified
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Originally posted by John Steed:
Just for the record, Prince died from an overdose of fentanyl.


No he didn’t.

Plain old pharmaceutical hydrocodone that you would get from the dentist. They landed the private plane and went to a Walgreens to pick it up.

If you really care about the details, you would know that it was a classic case of someone who had quit, who starts using again, taking what they think they need to get high, but underestimating what their limbic system could handle.

This is how most traditional overdoses with opiates happen; it was until illicit fentanyl from China/Mexico made it into the USA in such huge quantities.

Other people around him had buprenorphine available for him to take instead, which would’ve saved his life likely.





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