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IF you live in WA state, you should join the 2A Foundation, I'm a lifetime member, they are the ones
taking the fight to the states over these things, or you can donate at the link to help them with the
costs, right now they have 8 lawsuits going against states over bans...



Will I be inundated with additional please for more money, junk email etc?


That hasn't been my experience. They come occasionally but not at an REI level by any stretch.


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Posts: 6598 | Location: Washington | Registered: November 06, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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IF you live in WA state, you should join the 2A Foundation...



Will I be inundated with additional please for more money, junk email etc?


That hasn't been my experience…


Same.

But even if they do send you emails and letters, isn’t that a relatively small price to pay in order to support an organization that is fighting for all of our rights?




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IF you live in WA state, you should join the 2A Foundation, I'm a lifetime member, they are the ones
taking the fight to the states over these things, or you can donate at the link to help them with the
costs, right now they have 8 lawsuits going against states over bans...



Will I be inundated with additional please for more money, junk email etc?


I get their emails as I subscribed, you can opt out, but they are not daily emails and I get one piece of mail a month or every other month, they don't solicit hard.

You can simply donate without joining if you like, but the information they send out is pretty good and it's not like the NRA.

If you live in any of the 8 states they have joined into the lawsuits with, JMO it's worth supporting during this AR ban period of leftist governance....
 
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Originally posted by HRK:

IF you live in WA state, you should join the 2A Foundation, I'm a lifetime member, they are the ones
taking the fight to the states over these things, or you can donate at the link to help them with the
costs, right now they have 8 lawsuits going against states over bans...
Will I be inundated with additional please for more money, junk email etc?
I have found a good method for contributing to organizations like this, without getting on a mailing list.

I have some checks that are printed with just my name, no address. So instead of contributing via the website, I just mail a check. Without my address on the check, there's no easy way for them to add me to a mailing list.



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They tried to pull this shit in Colorado just recently. I didn't work out for the gun grabbing assholes this time. But it will be attempted again. They did manage to sneak through some other anti gun laws though.


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Told cops where to go for over 29 years…
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They tried to pull this shit in Colorado just recently. I didn't work out for the gun grabbing assholes this time. But it will be attempted again. They did manage to sneak through some other anti gun laws though.


Yup, they just keep doing it over and over until they get the result they want






What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


 
Posts: 11463 | Location: Western WA state for just a few more years... | Registered: February 17, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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They tried to pull this shit in Colorado just recently. I didn't work out for the gun grabbing assholes this time. But it will be attempted again. They did manage to sneak through some other anti gun laws though.


Yup, they just keep doing it over and over until they get the result they want


And these people won't listen.

I told my state level legislator that a proposed bill was clearly unconstitutional, and he barked back at me: "Well, we don't know if it's unconstitutional until it goes through the courts."

sad that this is how they think.


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Ordered a set of roll punches for AR a few days ago just before the WA gov signed the bill. During the transit, since the signing, my order got delayed twice for no apparent reason. At the end, was delivered today. Am thinking that the blessing it the description for the punches were for gunsmiths, automotive and watch making.

Don't know, but maybe the vague description worked in my favor.
 
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I'll be making another contribution to 2A Foundation. I'd like to think a short term and then long term injunction will be granted but have doubts. We're probably stuck with this bill for a good 1-5 years depending on your outlook for how things will progress for us despite impediments or set backs along the way.
 
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Originally posted by sandman76:
They tried to pull this shit in Colorado just recently. I didn't work out for the gun grabbing assholes this time. But it will be attempted again. They did manage to sneak through some other anti gun laws though.


Yup, they just keep doing it over and over until they get the result they want


And these people won't listen.

I told my state level legislator that a proposed bill was clearly unconstitutional, and he barked back at me: "Well, we don't know if it's unconstitutional until it goes through the courts."

sad that this is how they think.
My response would have been "I do know that it's unconstitutional and you should, too. Why should we be subject to an unconstitutional law for the time it takes to go through the courts? You are a disgrace."

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[QUOTE]My response would have been "I do know that it's unconstitutional and you should, too. Why should we be subject to an unconstitutional law for the time it takes to go through the courts? You are a disgrace."

flashguy

While I do agree with what you say it's a waste of time to engage these people in such conversation. They certainly don't weigh any of these issues on legality or if they are constitutional or not. They have an agenda and marching orders from their bosses and that's all that matters to them.
They are the enemy. Nothing more.
 
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It could take months or years for lawsuits ... until then, still screwed.
 
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If a legislator doesn't know what is or is not Constitutional then they have no basis to legislate. They take an oath to uphold the Constitution. They have a moral obligation to have a competent understanding of the Constitution.

If a law is so close to the line that it isn't clear that it is Constitutional, then it should not be passed. After all, the prime directive for a legislator is to uphold the Constitution!
 
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If a legislator doesn't know what is or is not Constitutional then they have no basis to legislate. They take an oath to uphold the Constitution. They have a moral obligation to have a competent understanding of the Constitution.

If a law is so close to the line that it isn't clear that it is Constitutional, then it should not be passed. After all, the prime directive for a legislator is to uphold the Constitution!


I agree. But at the end of the day, I am still screwed.
 
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After all, the prime directive for a legislator is to make you believe that they uphold the Constitution!
 
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I wonder when each state will decide on what kind of freedom of press or speech they will deem lawful.
 
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And these people won't listen.

I told my state level legislator that a proposed bill was clearly unconstitutional, and he barked back at me: "Well, we don't know if it's unconstitutional until it goes through the courts."

sad that this is how they think.


That's what a couple of ours said too when asked about the constitutionality of this law with regards to Bruen, "it's not our job to worry if it's constitutional or not." Da fuq? That's like half your job, write laws that will stand up to constitutional scrutiny. Bunch of fucking clowns



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Update: Judge rejects attempt to block new Washington state gun restrictions

SEATTLE (AP) — A federal judge on Tuesday rejected a request to block a new Washington state law banning the sale of certain semi-automatic rifles, one of three measures recently signed by Democratic Gov. Jay Inslee in an effort to reduce gun violence.

The law, which took effect immediately when Inslee signed it in April, prohibits the sale, distribution, manufacture and importation of more than 50 types of guns, including AR- and AK-style rifles. The measure does not bar the possession of such weapons by people who already have them.

It drew a quick legal challenge from two gun-rights advocacy groups — the Second Amendment Foundation, based in Bellevue, and the Firearms Policy Coalition, based in Sacramento, California — as well as individual gun owners and a dealer. They sought a court order blocking the law pending a trial on the merits of their claim that it violated their constitutional right to bear arms.

“Considering the exceptional dangerousness of these weapons, the public interest in their regulation by the State outweighs the Plaintiffs’ desire to purchase more assault weapons,” U.S. District Judge Robert Bryan in Tacoma. “In light of recent mass deaths caused by assailants using assault weapons, it is appropriate for governmental bodies to find ways to protect the public from dangerous weapons, within the limits of the Second Amendment.”

A U.S. Supreme Court decision last June expanded gun rights, dividing judges and sowing confusion over what restrictions can remain on the books. It made more explicit that gun laws must be consistent with the “historical tradition of firearm regulation.”

Bryan found that the state's ban does fit in with the nation's long history of regulating dangerous weapons, including colonial-era bans on “trap guns” that could be fired without the owner present. Other historical targets of regulation have included long-bladed Bowie knives and the Thompson submachine gun, or Tommy gun, popular with gangsters in the years after World War I.

Inslee and state Attorney General Bob Ferguson, both Democrats, pushed for the Democratic-controlled Legislature to pass the ban on many semi-automatic weapons this session after years of failed attempts, making Washington the 10th state to enact such a law.

The U.S. is setting a record pace for mass killings this year, according to a database maintained by The Associated Press, USA Today and Northeastern University. All of this year’s mass killings have involved firearms.

The two other laws signed by Inslee imposed a 10-day waiting period for firearms purchases and cleared the way for lawsuits against gun makers or sellers in certain cases.

A federal trial is underway in Oregon on a challenge to a voter-approved measure there that requires residents to undergo safety training and a background check to obtain a permit to buy a gun.

Voters narrowly passed it last November. The legislation also bans the sale, transfer or import of gun magazines with more than 10 rounds unless they are owned by a member of law enforcement or the military or were owned before the measure’s passage.

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U.S. District Judge Robert Bryan was appointed by Ronald Reagan in 1986

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Holy shit. It’s not about desires, judge, it’s about rights. Mad


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“Considering the exceptional dangerousness of these weapons, the public interest in their regulation by the State outweighs the Plaintiffs’ desire to purchase more assault weapons,” U.S. District Judge Robert Bryan in Tacoma. “In light of recent mass deaths caused by assailants using assault weapons, it is appropriate for governmental bodies to find ways to protect the public from dangerous weapons, within the limits of the Second Amendment.”


Good grief. Roll Eyes


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