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Originally posted by TigerDore:
I hope the guy was fired.

Odds are he will be more careful then most in the future.

I would have taken the fact that I hadn’t gotten shot as an auspicious event, and purchased the French Model 10 with the ugly-ass grips.

I was at my LGS and asked to see a pistol in the display case. A counter man in his 60s removed the gun without pointing it at me or anyone else, racked the slide to check that it was unloaded, and then handed me the gun. I then racked the slide to check to see if it was loaded. He laughed and said it had been years since anyone double checked to see that the gun was unloaded. I said, that is a shame, and he replied, I couldn't agree more.
Rod

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Originally posted by gjgalligan:

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Originally posted by TigerDore:
I hope the guy was fired.

Odds are he will be more careful then most in the future.

If he has any sense, you would hope that is the case, but he picked a gun out of a box and pulled the trigger. That was senseless in every literal use of the word.



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I would have asked for the free pistol they owed you for your hearing damage.

I inherited a pepperbox revolver after my father passed in 1980. Never did anything with the gun until some 20+ years later when a friend wanted to see it. Lo and behold half the cylinder chambers were loaded with black powder and a bullet. AFAIK, my father never fired it so I’m guessing it had probably been loaded for decades before I ever got hold of it. Would have needed a flint to set it off, but that was definitely a surprise.

My one and only ND occurred when I was 11 or 12. I let loose a .357 magnum round in my parents' kitchen. I shot my mother's brand new Kenmore dishwasher (Avocado Green, which was all the rage in 1973). Blew Tupperware into next week.

Needless to say, I have been extremely careful with firearms since that time.

My one and only ND was also with a .357 mag and blew a hole in the glass block window. Never again and always careful - more so.

Few years ago traded for a .357 from an LEO, one chamber had a live round.

Maybe I should stay away from .357 mag.

When I worked in a gun shop a few years ago about 10% of the guns customers brought in to sell us or have work done to them were loaded.
We would go to check to make sure they were unloaded and the customer would say "it's not loaded" and lo and behold a round would come flying out of the chamber.
They would always say they thought it was unloaded. I would always say that is why we check them.
We once had a lady walk in the store with a baby in one hand and a AK pistol in the other. She wanted to sell it. As we went to check it she said it was not loaded. Guess what, a round came flying out. Her exact words were she did not know it was loaded. Then why tell me it is not loaded. We always checked the guns regardless of whet the customer would say.

Wouldn’t have been a bit of shame in an immediate poop discharge. Glad no one was hurt!

glad no one was hurt

at least it was pointed in a 'safe direction' either knowingly or not

the rules do complement each other nicely so one saves you even if you disregard another

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
A woman shot her husband at a local range about 5 years ago. She accidentally placed a Glock with a chambered round in the case. The case had a post through the trigger well and as she placed the weapon in the case it depressed the trigger discharging the round. It was all on camera, her hands no where near the trigger. The husband survived.

Did the marriage?

I haven't had an ND to date, but I did have an UD (Unintentional Discharge) when I closed the bolt on a .22 rifle that I had knowingly loaded during a hunting trip. The bolt itself was determined to be defective and was found to repeatedly discharge upon closing. Nothing was damaged or anyone harmed, because the rifle was pointed safely downrange at the time. While the defective bolt was an easily remedied issue, the incident reinforced what I'd been taught about EVERY firearm that I pick up:

Never point firearms at anything you're not willing to destroy (loaded or unloaded)!!!

I had an ND when I was 16 years old. I was deer hunting with my dad (different blind) on a friends farm. I had a Remington 1100 20 ga loaded with slugs. I was on a treeline against a tree overlooking a rolling cut corn field.

A deer had been wandering around the treeline behind me making a lot of noise, snorting, but not coming out. At one point I had shouldered the shotgun and taken the safety off thinking he was going to walk out right past me. Eventually he snorted and went crashing back into the woods and wetland behind me. I laid the shotgun across my lap, laid my hands down on it to rest. When I turned to check behind me again my gloved finger was hooked in the trigger guard and depressed the trigger. The shotgun discharged, buried the slug in the tree 5 yards to my right, and I was almost hit in the face with the ejecting shell. You guessed it, forgot to reengage the safety. Fortunately I had followed the other rules and the muzzle was pointed in a safe direction.

I kept that shell in my pocket every time I went hunting or shooting for years. One day it just disappeared. Pretty well set firearm safety in my DNA after that day.

I have witnessed two NDs at gun shows. One of them was a guy at the front door placing the zip tie after checking for empty guns, he put a round through the palm of his hand.

I've mostly been exposed to supposedly unloaded firearms at gunshows. I always checked anything handed across the table to possibly buy and have had to unload a few of those. We also try to check any of our guns a customer has handled just in case they're some smartass slipping a round into one. Even with the zipties on them you never know.

One ND at a show and couldn't believe how fast so many folks hit the floor. It was an older dealer I knew and never would have believed it possible of him. He was barred for life from that promoter's shows and word got out and no one else would have him either. He died a few year's later and his son told me the experience hastened his demise.

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Originally posted by GregY:

I actually want one of those Smiths, specifically for wax bullet shooting. Been trying to talk myself out of it.

I am thinking about ordering two and keeping the nicer one and have by FFL buddy sell the other one.

As for the ugly ass Trausch grips, I've seen people on other boards looking to buy just the grips so don't let that keep anyone from buying one of these Model 10s.

The owner of a gun shop recounted unpacking a brand new Remington 700 and finding a round in the chamber.

I'm glad you were not shot. On the other hand, I looked at those model 10s o. Line a couple times. Overlooking shots fired, do you think those pistoleros would make a good project gun? Clean it up, Cerakote and put different grips on it? By the way, i ordered a rifle from Buds last week and it was finally shipped out yesterday. You could almost say, my rifle was near you when you got shot at!

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Originally posted by parabellum:
I shot my mother's brand new Kenmore dishwasher (Avocado Green, which was all the rage in 1973). Blew Tupperware into next week.

That friends, is when Tupperware first became known as ahead of it's time.

Sounds like you make the same rounds I do when in that area. Those Model 10’s have caught my eye as well. Can’t say I’m surprised about the NG , although I will be thinking about it if my wife and daughters want to go in with me. My oldest enjoys the laser trainer.
Folks spend enough time around weapons they’ll get relaxed and some become too complacent. Glad you didn’t get hit.