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Look out Jeep! Watch your back Bronco. The Land Cruiser is BACK BABY!!!

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August 07, 2023, 07:09 PM
trapper189
Look out Jeep! Watch your back Bronco. The Land Cruiser is BACK BABY!!!
If they made one without all the electronic doodads, I would be interested. Part of the fun of the original Jeeps, Broncos, Scouts, and Land Cruisers was hosing them off including the inside. Another part of the fun was being able to fix what you broke with a basic set of tools.
August 07, 2023, 07:37 PM
Voshterkoff
That 4 cylinder nonsense is gayer than jizz on a mustache.
August 07, 2023, 07:40 PM
cas
Isn't that just a Toyota grill photoshopped onto an existing vehicle? lol



No matter, it will be 90% more than I'm willing to pay and have none of the reasons I'd want to buy a Land Cruiser. Same reason I have no interest in new Jeeps. (or "Broncos")
August 07, 2023, 07:48 PM
Johnny 3eagles
Call me when they bring back the International Scout.





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August 07, 2023, 07:49 PM
stickman428
You guys know it’s ok to not be negative all the time.

I bet if you actually drove a new turbo hybrid Toyota it would shock the shit out of you. Smile


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August 07, 2023, 08:07 PM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by Voshterkoff:
That 4 cylinder nonsense is gayer than jizz on a mustache.

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August 07, 2023, 08:16 PM
kr350psd
quote:
I bet if you actually drove a new turbo hybrid Toyota it would shock the shit out of you. Smile


Your right I haven't driven one.
How would you compare it to the old 3.5 Sienna's.
Do you think the hybrid will still be hanging in there at 200k?


August 07, 2023, 08:16 PM
x0225095
Nope. Land Cruiser is dead to me. I’m a former FJ40 owner.

This thing is made for getting groceries and is a Land Cruiser is name only. IMO, it is a weak “re-introduction” of a classic that only a marketing department could love.


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August 07, 2023, 08:21 PM
Voshterkoff
quote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
You guys know it’s ok to not be negative all the time.

I bet if you actually drove a new turbo hybrid Toyota it would shock the shit out of you. Smile


I care about two things, reliability and ability to tow a medium sized boat. No hybrid is shocking me.
August 07, 2023, 08:22 PM
Skins2881
I'll be the one person who doesn't shit on your thread. I like it!



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August 07, 2023, 08:30 PM
FishOn
quote:
Originally posted by Pyker:
That's not a Land Cruiser, This is a Land Cruiser!



Yup. My first LC was almost identical to this one.


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August 07, 2023, 08:31 PM
.38supersig
From what I understand, you'll have to be quick if you want the round headlamps with decent options.

They will start off that way (first edition?), but the later version will have the square lights so it will look like an uninspired driving appliance with the fancy trim options.

Doesn't matter as some will buy anything blessed by Saint Kiichiro and it will make them happy. If it does, more power to 'em.

Not sure if they'll decide to play engine noises over the radio so it will sound better like Ford. Possibly a firewall diaphragm like the Benz? Haven't heard.

I like that they are bringing the LC back, but I can't look at it and not think of an X-Terra with a Bronco front clip.



August 07, 2023, 08:43 PM
kr350psd
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
Not sure if they'll decide to play engine noises over the radio so it will sound better like Ford.


The new Tundras with the twin turbo V6 do the same thing.


August 07, 2023, 09:04 PM
lyman
the modern LC FC or whatever that was disco'ed was basically a Tacoma


the Toyota Land Cruiser turned into a Luxo Barge, not that that was a bad thing, but it was more Lexus than Land Cruiser


and thanks (read that sarcasticly with a good smile) for the reminder,
I need to upgrade from a Civic to a SUV for my business, and was looking at RAV4's,, now, I may need to go test drive some Japanese market stuff

https://www.japaneseclassics.c...3-land-cruiser-vx-l/



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August 07, 2023, 09:05 PM
lyman
quote:
Originally posted by kr350psd:
quote:
Originally posted by .38supersig:
Not sure if they'll decide to play engine noises over the radio so it will sound better like Ford.


The new Tundras with the twin turbo V6 do the same thing.


Mini Cooper did the same as well



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August 07, 2023, 09:06 PM
stickman428
This turbo 4 hybrid can tow 2500 lbs more than my 3.5L V6 Sienna.

I bitched about the hybrid Sienna until I drove one. I was wrong about it and it surprised the hell out of me. It is MUCH faster than my Sienna and considerably better on gas too.

The 6,000 lb towing capacity of this is better than our Highlander limited by 1,000 lbs. A new boat is the priority but I could definitely see this replacing our Highlander. Cool


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August 07, 2023, 09:46 PM
1s1k
quote:
Originally posted by FishOn:
I've owned multiple LCs and love them. But I have no interest in a 4 cylinder hybrid LC. They need to offer the twin-turbo 6 cylinder gas option for the US market. See below.

https://global.toyota/en/newsr...toyota/35758437.html
I’m with you. No thanks on a turbo four in a heavy brick shaped vehicle. Sure if you mash the throttle it will do great but rear work fuel economy will be terrible.
August 07, 2023, 10:02 PM
x0225095
Jeep has never stopped doing it.

Ford just showed you how to do it.

Toyota misses the penalty kick into an open net wide right. LOL. It’s an iconic brand and they do THIS? Great relaunch Toyota. Really great.

I don’t think Jeep or Bronco will be watching anything except their sales going up up and up.


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August 07, 2023, 10:13 PM
selogic
Excuse my ignorance , but I have a question . Is there any advantage to having a turbo when you're chugging along a muddy trail in the boonies ?
August 07, 2023, 11:04 PM
stickman428
Are you serious?

How would you make acceptable power and torque with increasing emission regulations?

Do you think Toyota is making turbo hybrids for the hell of it?


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