Why Do Liberals Act Like They Hate America?


The idea of American exceptionalism has been embedded in our collective DNA for generations. It is the faith-based belief that, as Ronald Reagan put it, America is a "shining city on a hill."

Do modern liberals believe that?

I almost never try to get into the other side's head or ascribe ill motives to those on the left. They are, I've always believed, misguided, not malign.

But I'm having second thoughts after listening to Barack Obama's defense of communism/socialism when he was in Argentina. He advised young people to get behind "what works" economically -- as if there is some deep mystery here.

Obama didn't misspeak. The modern left in America really has come to believe that communism, socialism, Marxism and totalitarianism -- or other terms for the monopolization of power into the hands of a ruling elite -- are superior to free-market capitalism.

The president of the United States is supposed to be the global spokesman for free enterprise. But, instead of traveling to Cuba to point out to the world the decades of stagnation, deprivation and dehumanization at the hands of the Castros, and instead of using this moment in history to showcase the triumph of capitalism 90 miles away, Obama praises Cuba's health care and education systems.

He might as well have been praising Mussolini for making the trains run on time. Even more unbelievable: The media applauded.

How far the Democratic Party has fallen. Can anyone imagine Obama, Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders having the gumption or wisdom to tell Mikhail Gorbachev to "tear down this wall"?

It wasn't so long ago that leading Democrats -- JFK, Harry Truman and even the AFL CIO -- were staunch enemies of communism. Today, there is no place for such beliefs within the progressive Democratic Party. If it involves ceding power to the state, the left is all for it -- as evidenced by the rise of Bernie Sanders.

But for every action, there is a reaction, and the left's lunacy has given momentum to the tumultuous uprising on the right this year. Millions of voters who support Donald Trump want our government to put America first and focus on our own mounting problems at home, then worry about Europe, Israel, the melting ice caps, AIDS in Africa and so on. If your house is burning down, you put out that fire and save your own children trapped on the second floor, before you go down the street and put the fire out at your neighbors' house.

Here's just one observational data point that, admittedly, is anecdotal but speaks volumes about the left-right divide in America. At a typical Donald Trump or Ted Cruz rally, you will see American flags waving everywhere. These are patriotic gatherings. At Sanders events, you will see some flags, but not many -- because if you are a leftist, it's not cool to love America. What is much cooler is wearing a Che Guevera T-shirt.

At a Republican rally, you typically meet many veterans who served our country with honor and valor. Some who protest at Trump rallies detest those who are wearing military uniforms and call them fascists and give the Nazi salute. I've seen it happen. I want to grab these brats and shout at them like Jack Nicholson did in "A Few Good Men": "I would rather you just said 'thank you' and went on your way."

Trump voters see America losing both the economic and cultural wars vital to national survival. We have a $19 trillion national debt that has doubled in the past decade. We have wages flat or falling for most Americans. We have a political class that is actively trying to destroy whole industries -- coal production, oil and gas, community banks and so many others.

We have a president (along with the intellectual class) pushing a radical climate change agenda that will cost the middle class millions of jobs, but won't change the global temperature by a hundredth of a degree. Trade deals seem to be drafted to benefit foreign workers and businesses over our own. America pays far more than its share for programs like the United Nations and NATO. Our public schools put teachers first, not kids, and they often don't adequately educate.

We have courts overturning the will of the people in state after state on issues such as gay marriage. We have speech police. We have illegal immigrants who work here and live here and then wave the Mexican flag at rallies, as if to be intentionally offensive. (And I'm in favor of immigration.) Then they wonder why Americans want a wall.

We have the TSA searching the underwear of infants but letting certain adults pass through without inspection because we wouldn't want to be accused of profiling. We have a Justice Department thinking about prosecuting people for questioning the climate change "consensus."

This is the same crowd that seems to prefer the economic systems in Sweden and Greece and Cuba over America's. They preach human rights, but they don't seem to understand that economic freedom is a core human right.

https://www.investors.com/poli...e-they-hate-america/

They're not acting.

The premise of the article is not wrong but it’s from 9 years ago.

Because they do...They hate America, AND they hate Americans!

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Originally posted by PR64:
The premise of the article is not wrong but it’s from 9 years ago.

I felt the date was irrelevant, and I don't think anyone could argue that anything has changed since then.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
They're not acting.

Yup, the article is wrong.

They want a Democracy and can't stand that they live in a Republic.

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Originally posted by downtownv:

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Originally posted by PR64:
The premise of the article is not wrong but it’s from 9 years ago.

I felt the date was irrelevant, and I don't think anyone could argue that anything has changed since then.

It’s all good my friend…

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:
Because they do...They hate America, AND they hate Americans!

They only like America when there’s free stuff.
But when they have to pay for it, or put some skin in the game, then they hate America.

Free speech is good! Yayyy!
Wait, I don’t like what you’re saying, Im going to stop that!
What do you mean Im going to jail? This place sucks!

Free healthcare is good! Yayyy!
Wait, these doctors suck! My surgery is messed up!
What do you mean I have to pay for a good surgeon? This place sucks!

Free college is good! Yayyy!
Wait, I can’t get a job, because no one taught me HOW to think!
What do you mean I have to dig ditches for a living because my women’s studies degree isn’t getting me a job? This place sucks!

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Originally posted by john crusher:
They want a Democracy and can't stand that they live in a Republic.

No, they want Utopia. They want a system in which the “educated” tell everyone else how to live because they believe they know better, are benevolent, and believe they belong to the elite who will guide all others to paradise. This concept is ancient; Marxism, Communism and Socialism are the latest iterations of the idea. Democracy is only useful to them of the masses vote as they are told.

Attempts at Utopia whether by religious cults, political parties, nation states, etc. have always failed. The main reason is that it ignores human nature and can never truly contend with free thinkers. True democracies are rare in history since they can only work in very small communities or where the voting members are limited to a few. They do hate republics since they have proven to be the most successful systems.

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Originally posted by john crusher:
They want a Democracy and can't stand that they live in a Republic.

They do not want a democracy. They want a totalitarian state where conservatives will be loaded into cattle cars reminiscent of Nazi Germany.

It’s because the left is composed of intolerant elitist garbage that lives by the “do as I say, not as I do” mantra. The left is peopled by hypocrites.

Tards in the yard.

Who says they are acting....

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Why Do Liberals Act Like They Hate America?

The idea of American exceptionalism has been embedded in our collective DNA for generations. It is the faith-based belief that, as Ronald Reagan put it, America is a "shining city on a hill."

Do modern liberals believe that?

I almost never try to get into the other side's head or ascribe ill motives to those on the left. They are, I've always believed, misguided, not malign.

Not all liberals are the same. Broadly I put them into 3 groups.

The first group is a growing minority, who are true believers in some version of Marxism. They believe a pleasant Utopia can be created if collectivism is imposed. These are the Useful Idiots who will engage in activism of some form to promote progressive liberalism. This group can be violent but believe it is justified. Some may be powerful individuals.

The second group are the larger majority of liberals. They self-identify as "Liberal" without really thinking much about it or even being informed about it. Their families have always been JFK Democrats, or they are in a demographic that historically has been predominately D, so they assume that supporting modern liberalism is the moral thing to do. These people have good intentions but are misguided and ignorant.

The most dangerous group, though, are those who probably have no true ideological beliefs but use the mantle of liberalism to attain personal power and wealth. (Truthfully, the RINOs in Congress are the mirror image, who use the mantle of conservatism to gain personal power and wealth). These are the powerful elite. They instigate and fund the Useful Idiots. They use their power for personal gain without any regard for suffering they cause. Schiff, Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, Gates, etc. I think we may erroneously ascribe true believer status to them because they strongly push the progressive agenda, but their motives are purely selfish.

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Originally posted by john crusher:
They want a Democracy and can't stand that they live in a Republic.

No! They abhor any form of Govt. that is intended to be equally applied. What they want is anything but a Democracy or a Republic. What they want is to be on top of a system that rewards the partisan that can shout the loudest and/or show the most outrage. The last thing they want is for their voice to be equal to some shlub like me. They want to dominate and have their way on every contentious issue whether most of the populace agree or not.

Many people conflate political and economic philosophies. It appears to me that the Democrats are far more anti-Capitalism than they are anti-universal franchise whether implemented as a Democracy or a Republic. I think it can be argued that you can't have one without the other, but they are hardly the same.

ETA: Had another thought...

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Why Do Liberals Act Like They Hate America?

Because we refuse to be their slaves.

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They hate themselves and they hate the Judeo-Christian values this Republic was founded on and want to tear it all down and start over.

Many were taught to hate America, and we helped pay for the instruction.

As has been said before, they aren't acting.

So many spot-on comments. Remember, however much we hate them, they hate us more. Their blind hatred is an Achilles Heel.