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Kindle Owners and Amazon's Cancellation of a Conservative Nation
March 04, 2021, 05:45 PM
ScoutmasterKindle Owners and Amazon's Cancellation of a Conservative Nation
quote:
Originally posted by sjtill:
I've said before here that I wasn't going to cut off my nose to spite my face.
However, Amazon continues to go woker and woker.
At the very least I will try to find alternative sources to buy things, even if more inconvenient, or have to pay postage.
My wife is repeatedly addressing the question of whether we want to continue patronizing Amazon.
It's a hard one, 'cause they got ya.
Maybe it comes down to money/convenience. Or, principles. Choose one or the other?
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ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
Does Amazon have the ability to delete the book from your Kindle?
Yes, they do. (Though see my response to
Hobbs.) They've done it before.
quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
If they do delete the book, what recourse does the buyer have?
Don't know. I imagine they'd be required to issue a refund. That's what they've had to do in the past.
I "own" maybe a dozen Kindle e-books. Most of them very inexpensive. I will not be "buying" any more.
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Originally posted by Hobbs:
If you've downloaded the book to your Kindle, they can't delete from your Kindle.
Perhaps they cannot physically delete it, but they can remove the licensing, which would have the same effect, because it'd no longer be accessible.
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Originally posted by IntrepidTraveler:
I recall reading that when you "buy" digital content, you aren't really buying it, but licensing it, much like software.
Exactly like software, in fact. What you are purchasing is a revocable Right To Use (RTU) license. If the license is revoked: No more access to the content you "bought."
I said after Barnes & Noble screwed me "Never again with e-books." Did it, again, anyway, with Amazon. Now I'm regretting it.
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RightwireI have not, nor will I ever, buy anything from Amazon.
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There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. March 04, 2021, 06:06 PM
Hobbs, quite apparently you missed my last post on the previous page, so here is my post quoted. If you follow the link I provided in the quote, read what you want to read
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Originally posted by Hobbs:
I stand corrected. I guess they can delete books for someones personal Kindle. They apparently did so in 2009. A lawsuit has been brought that is expected to be settled out of court and even Jeff Bezos has already admitted the company's actions were "stupid, thoughtless and painfully out of line with our principles." ... but Amazon likely still possesses the ability to "send a signal" to a Kindle to do whatever they think they can get away with. Here's an article ...
https://www.legalzoom.com/arti...oks-from-your-kindle
March 04, 2021, 06:24 PM
bcereussquote:
Originally posted by Jimbo54:
I just googled the book and nothing showed up. So much for the 1st amendment.
Jim
I’ll be that guy. Not really a 1st amendment issue.
March 04, 2021, 07:06 PM
ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by Hobbs:
ensigmatic, quite apparently you missed my last post on the previous page, ...
Apparently so. Sorry about that.
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Originally posted by bcereuss:
quote:
Originally posted by Jimbo54:
I just googled the book and nothing showed up. So much for the 1st amendment.
I’ll be that guy. Not really a 1st amendment issue.
True, but, as I pointed out before: When those in control of all the media exercise the censorship, what's the practical difference?
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher March 04, 2021, 09:55 PM
f2The only time I sync my kindle is when it's brand new - to register it (stays it in airplane mode). So anything I borrow from the library never expires. Anything I buy and sneaker net there stays there (and on my hard drive with usb drive backup).
March 05, 2021, 07:49 AM
Pipe Smokerquote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
All, let's say you own a Kindle and buy a book which later, Amazon decides it is too truthful and/or conservative for their liking and delete the book from their sales.
Does Amazon have the ability to delete the book from your Kindle?
If they do delete the book, what recourse does the buyer have?
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Re: “Does Amazon have the ability to delete the book from your Kindle?”
Amazon certainly can’t (successfully) delete any of my Kindle books – I’d just restore it from a Time Machine backup. My Kindle is the gen 1 Paperwhite (I’ve been waiting, for years, for a new Paperwhite with a USB-C connector).
Once a day I connect my Kindle to my MacBook and wait until it “mounts” (becomes visible on the Mac Desktop). The Kindle is then just another unix directory (/Volumes/Kindle/). Then I do a Time Machine backup, which backs up the MacBook
and the Kindle data.
Serious about crackers. March 05, 2021, 08:26 AM
BBMWAmazon, being a private entity, is not bound by the 1st Amendment. Only governmental entities are.
This isn't relevant to the issue of Amazon trying to pull content already downloaded to a Kindle (there may be civil liabilities there.) But it would be relevant to what books Amazon lists.
quote:
Originally posted by Jimbo54:
I just googled the book and nothing showed up. So much for the 1st amendment.
Jim