My opinion is fixed wired cameras for the bulk of it. Much prefer them over IP cameras for a number of reasons. I run a combo of fixed, IP, and wifi cameras currently.

Alarm, I use a monitoring company and it goes over cellular. It’s hidden, has battery backup, etc.

Gate, I need to learn as I want an electric gate on my rural property.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
My opinion is fixed wired cameras for the bulk of it. Much prefer them over IP cameras for a number of reasons.

Huh???

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Originally posted by PHPaul:
I'm thinking I'm going to pass on this opportunity.

I think that would be wise.

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Originally posted by PHPaul:
I see more problems than benefits on my end.

Beyond that: You're talking about a fairly involved project.

Just putting in a WiFi network with a cellular Internet connection for one of my best friends, on his rural property, cost me at least a man-week of labor up front (in discussion, planning, design, equipment and materials research and acquisition, testing, pre-configuration), plus another man-week in travel and on-site work.

And I started out more or less knowing what I was doing

What your new acquaintance wants is significantly more involved than that.

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
My opinion is fixed wired cameras for the bulk of it. Much prefer them over IP cameras for a number of reasons.

I sense a huge amount of negativity on most of these posts. On the specific issue of camera's I think if you are a competent IP person (i.e. you know what an IPaddress is, what a subnet mask is, how to configure a router to work, DHCP etc.) and understand basic PC functionality its not a very hard project. I've installed dozens of cameras at my farm in a variety of locations with not many issues and the system would certainly meet the needs of 99+% of people IMO.
I can't imagine in today's world running anything but IP cameras, but that's just my view of the technology situation.

Edited to add something somewhat in response to ensigmatic post above. Knowing what I know now (meaning I'm familiar with the configuration of the equipment) I could replicate my current 15 camera system which has cellular, wireless, landline, cable and microwave extension components as well as dedicated IR lighting and a dedicated PC based recording system in a day or two, not counting the physical wire plant install which is labor intensive, but brain dead work. Its not labor intensive at that level.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
I sense a huge amount of negativity on most of these posts. On the specific issue of camera's I think if you are a competent IP IT person (i.e. you know what an IPaddress is, what a subnet mask is, how to configure a router to work, DHCP etc.) and understand basic PC functionality its not a very hard project. I've installed dozens of cameras at my farm in a variety of locations with not many issues and the system would certainly meet the needs of 99+% of people IMO.
I can't imagine in today's world running anything but IP cameras, but that's just my view of the technology situation.

Edited to add something somewhat in response to ensigmatic post above. Knowing what I know now (meaning I'm familiar with the configuration of the equipment) I could replicate my current 15 camera system which has cellular, wireless, landline, cable and microwave extension components as well as dedicated IR lighting and a dedicated PC based recording system in a day or two, not counting the physical wire plant install which is labor intensive, but brain dead work. Its not labor intensive at that level.

I can tell you are not in this business.
Hard is not an accurate attribute as this, if done correctly, is a very comprehensive project that requires a plethora of view other than simply knowing what an "IP address" is.

Nope not in the business. But PHPaul asked about a video surveillance system for a home. And I can tell you that is not very hard to do for someone competent in the technology. What a comprehensive security system would encompass and need I have no idea. But I don't think that was the basic question.

Dunning–Kruger Technologies™

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Dunning–Kruger Technologies

If somehow you are directing that at me personally FU> I'm reporting on my personal experience and its accurate and responsive to the OP.

Your own admission is, that it is not your profession (nope, not in the business), while I had been in "the business" from the late 1970s, until I finally kicked the can down the road in 2020.

From military weapons development, DARPA, and the private sector for nearly 50 years, I know a 1 or 10.

Your reply proves my prior post.


" ... I bet you think this song is about you... "

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Greater than any "learning curve" or physical hurdles of the property, your full concern should be on your liability, either real or imagined, by your "friend", when (not if) something goes wrong with anything you can be associated with the day morning after.

...not even with two, eleven foot poles.

Woah! That's a very good take on "what could go wrong." Even if I knew how to do it, this would have persuaded me not to.

If money is no object, then I recall the elements of security from a book I read a long time ago b Massa Ayoob, I think the basics are always good to be covered.

1) Hardened entry doors.
2) At least one dog, optimally a bull mastif or whatever scooby dooby's breed is. They were bred to knock down a man in armor and in court remind people of the cute scooby dooby.
3) Alarm system
4) Lethal protection
5) defensive plan based on the layout of the house
6) safe room.
7) exterior lighting

8) I don't think cameras for homes were much in used when the book came out, but from my nephew who is a cop: He said he's seen a lot of surveilance camera footage and most cameras are set too high so that you can't see the face. Also, people know to look for cameras facing them from the house but they aren't used to look for cameras positioned to look toward the house.

9) there's a gate security mentioned. I'm reminded of the recent incident where a California CCW person had to use his gun to keep from people who attacked him from doing a home invasion. In the video, you can see he even had a automatic gate. Very nice. Except one of the perps just easily jumped over the wall. It seemed to me it was barely more than waist high. So if you are going to have a fence, make it a real fence.

I did what I can and recognize the weak points of my security. But I have remote locks on all house exterior doors that I can check the status. I have every window and door alarmed plus additional detectors inside the house. I have exterior and interior cameras. I can easily add the interior cameras myself. And I have my two killer attack dog mini poodles who will rip anyone's jugular.

My goal is to make my house more trouble than it's worth compared to my neighbors.

Picture of the vicious killer attack dogs.

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Originally posted by hrcjon:
Nope not in the business. But PHPaul asked about a video surveillance system for a home. And I can tell you that is not very hard to do for someone competent in the technology. What a comprehensive security system would encompass and need I have no idea. But I don't think that was the basic question.

First, it was a threefold question: cameras, security system, gate control all integrated.

Second, setting up security cameras for yourself on your own property is one thing. Getting paid to do it on someone else’s property is a different ball game.

I would point him to a professional Alarm.Com dealer. The three separate systems become an integrated platform accessible through any web-connected device. No reason for the video, intrusion and access to be disparate systems. Reasonable camera options with analytics that fit 90% of residential applications. Intrusion can be a mix of hardwired and wireless devices based on accessibility and preference. The DSC Neo is a solid intrusion control.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Dunning–Kruger Technologies™

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Getting paid to do it on someone else’s property is a different ball game.

Even if you're not getting paid for it: If you do it, you own it.

That networking installation I did for my buddy up in the north woods? I'll own that for the rest of my days. I knew that going in. That's one reason I made certain to get it right.