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State is Michigan. Buyer has no CPL. What is the legal procedure?
 
Posts: 1195 | Location: Southern ,Mi. | Registered: October 17, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Cash, gun, complete.
 
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If purchaser has no CPL, then I believe he needs to go to his local PD for a Purchase Permit.


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Not so, according to one source.

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Source: Pew Pew Tactical

Private Sales

Buying from a private seller has some benefits, but there are also more hoops to jump through to do so.

To buy a handgun from a private seller, you must:

Be at least 18 years old; and
Have a License to Purchase.

Those two requirements can be deceiving though, as getting the License to Purchase is actually a pretty big hassle. You must obtain a license to purchase from the Chief of Police of the city you live in, or the county, if you are in an area without its own police department.

When you actually make the purchase, you’ll need to fill out 3 copies of the license, making sure the license includes a description of the handgun that is sold, with the signatures of both the buyer and the seller. Each person keeps one copy of the License to Purchase.

The buyer has to then take the third copy of the license, along with the (unloaded!) handgun that was purchased, to the local police station within 30 days of the sale so they can register the handgun to the new owner.

One thing to keep in mind is that the License to Purchase expires in 30 days, so you should make sure you can agree on the terms of the sale, or you may still be trying to settle on a price with the seller when the license expires, and have to apply for a new one all over again.

The good news is that if you have a Michigan CCW permit, you can skip all the licensing hassle when buying through a private sale.





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http://www.legislature.mi.gov/...cations/firearms.pdf

28.422 License to purchase, carry, possess, or transport pistol; issuance; qualifications; applications; sale
of pistol; exemptions; transfer of ownership to heir or devisee; nonresident; active duty status; forging
application as felony; implementation during business hours.
Sec. 2. (1) Except as otherwise provided in this act, a person shall not purchase, carry, possess, or transport
a pistol in this state without first having obtained a license for the pistol as prescribed in this section.
(2) A person who brings a pistol into this state who is on leave from active duty with the armed forces of the United States or
who has been discharged from active duty with the armed forces of the United States shall obtain a license for the pistol within
30 days after his or her arrival in this state.
(3) The commissioner or chief of police of a city, township, or village police department that issues licenses to purchase,
carry, possess, or transport pistols, or his or her duly authorized deputy, or the sheriff or his or her duly authorized deputy, in the
parts of a county not included within a city, township, or village having an organized police department, in discharging the duty
to issue licenses shall with due speed and diligence issue licenses to purchase, carry, possess, or transport pistols to qualified
applicants unless he or she has probable cause to believe that the applicant would be a threat to himself or herself or to other
individuals, or would commit an offense with the pistol that would violate a law of this or another state or of the United States.
upon forms provided by the director of the department of state police and shall be signed by the licensing authority. Three
copies of the license shall be delivered to the applicant by the licensing authority. A license is void unless used within 30 days
after the date it is issued.
(5) If an individual purchases or otherwise acquires a pistol, the seller shall fill out the license forms describing the pistol,
together with the date of sale or acquisition, and sign his or her name in ink indicating that the pistol was sold to or otherwise
acquired by the purchaser. The purchaser shall also sign his or her name in ink indicating the purchase or other acquisition of
the pistol from the seller. The seller may retain a copy of the license as a record of the transaction. The purchaser shall receive
2 copies of the license. The purchaser shall return 1 copy of the license to the licensing authority within 10 days after the date
the pistol is purchased or acquired. The return of the copy to the licensing authority may be made in person or may be made
by first-class mail or certified mail sent within the 10-day period to the proper address of the licensing authority. A purchaser
who fails to comply with the requirements of this subsection is responsible for a state civil infraction and may be fined not
more than $250.00. If a purchaser is found responsible for a state civil infraction under this subsection, the court shall notify
the department of state police of that determination.
(6) Within 10 days after receiving the license copy returned under subsection (5), the licensing authority shall electronically
enter the information into the pistol entry database as required by the department of state police if it has the ability to electronically
enter that information. If the licensing authority does not have that ability, the licensing authority shall provide that information
to the department of state police in a manner otherwise required by the department of state police. Any licensing authority that
provided pistol descriptions to the department of state police under former section 9 of this act shall continue to provide pistol
descriptions to the department of state police under this subsection. Within 48 hours after entering or otherwise providing the
information on the license copy returned under subsection (5) to the department of state police, the licensing authority shall
forward the copy of the license to the department of state police. The purchaser has the right to obtain a copy of the information
placed in the pistol entry database under this subsection to verify the accuracy of that information. The licensing authority may
charge a fee not to exceed $1.00 for the cost of providing the copy. The licensee may carry, use, possess, and transport the
pistol for 30 days beginning on the date of purchase or acquisition only while he or she is in possession of his or her copy of
the license. However, the person is not required to have the license in his or her possession while carrying, using, possessing,
or transporting the pistol after this period.
(7) This section does not apply to the purchase of pistols from wholesalers by dealers regularly engaged in the business of
selling pistols at retail, or to the sale, barter, or exchange of pistols kept as relics or curios not made for modern ammunition or
permanently deactivated.
 
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Originally posted by Warhorse:
If purchaser has no CPL, then I believe he needs to go to his local PD for a Purchase Permit.

That is correct. Or county, if [s]he has no local PD.

Either way: The three-part Pistol Sales Record is filled-out, just as at an FFL. One copy is retained by the seller, one by the purchaser, and one is turned in "... to the city, village, or township police department where the purchaser resides, or to the country sheriff."



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Glad I live where I can just take his money and shake his hand.




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Originally posted by 9mmnut:
State is Michigan. Buyer has no CPL. What is the legal procedure?


Since this varies from state to state, I'd ask my local friendly gun shop owner.




 
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Glad I live where I can just take his money and shake his hand.


Yes. That’s a bunch of bullshit to go through, in Michigan. I guess there’s no crime as a result, though, so worth it.
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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
Cash, gun, complete.


Let's skip incorrect answers to these threads please. Help other members.


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Like said above. If in a town, go to local Police Department for a purchase permit, then it needs to be filled out and signed by a Notary Public and returned to the department where you received the permit from.
 
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Originally posted by hvyhawler:
Like said above. If in a town, go to local Police Department for a purchase permit, then it needs to be filled out and signed by a Notary Public and returned to the department where you received the permit from.

Notary Public? Been a while since I needed a permit to purchase, but I do not recall needing a Notary Public.



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My son had to when I gifted him a couple of pistols.
 
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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
....and one is turned in "... to the city, village, or township police department where the purchaser resides, or to the country sheriff."
Isn't that essentially defacto gun registration?
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Originally posted by hvyhawler:
My son had to when I gifted him a couple of pistols.
Glad I don't live in Michigan because there is zero way I'd ever comply with the law when handing off firearms to a family members. Wow, that is just insane.


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Originally posted by bigdeal:
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
....and one is turned in "... to the city, village, or township police department where the purchaser resides, or to the country sheriff."
Isn't that essentially defacto gun registration?

Yes. And, yes: It sucks.



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