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June 04, 2026, 07:19 AM
6guns
Data Centers are the Devil
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfr...dkt_nbr=010104m05ixo

China Spending Billions to Stop AI, Data Centers in U.S.

While China has been pouring billions into its own AI infrastructure and expansion, it may also be funding an equally expensive influence campaign here in the U.S. to oppose the building of data centers — critical to advancing the technology.

The stakes in the AI are incredibly high, so high that Interior Secretary Doug Burgum recently said whoever dominates in the field of artificial intelligence is "going to control the world."

While China is massively expanding their AI industry growing evidence indicates they are pushing misinformation campaigns in the U.S. with the goal of stopping or delaying the build out of data centers.

These centers are massive computing factories with significant energy and water needs that are key to running AI systems like Grok, ChatGPT, Google's Gemini, and others.

The data centers have become a focal point for supporters and opponents of the new technology.

In April Sen. Bernie Sanders convened his own panel on Capitol Hill to discuss "the existential threat of AI," claiming "the richest, most powerful people in the world are now building a runaway train with no brakes."

Sanders did not hide China’s interest in stopping U.S. AI development. He asked two senior Chinese officials to host the panel with him.

The pair from China — Zeng Yi, dean of the Beijing Institute of AI Safety and Governance, and Xue Lan, a Tsinghua University professor and Counselor to China’s State Council — used their Capitol podium to downplay the U.S.-China AI race.

The far left is unequivocally seeking to completely stop U.S. advancement.

Earlier this year Sanders, along with fellow Democrat Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, introduced the Artificial Intelligence Data Center Moratorium Act. The bill would freeze all new U.S. construction of AI datacenters.

President Donald Trump and others have been counterpunching in what they see an undue foreign influence over a critical technology for U.S. security and economic interests.

On Monday, Trump signed a slew of Executive Orders that aim to combat security risks posed by foreign adversaries.

Last year he signed an Executive Order that streamlined the permitting process for data centers and provided loans and tax incentives for their construction.

In December he reinforced his earlier Order with another one that shields federal permitting from state and local rules.

In May a sweeping new 17-page report from the Bitcoin Policy Institute raised real concerns about China’s efforts to back efforts to sow distrust of data centers and effectively block AI programs in the U.S.

The Institute’s report — "Foreign Influence in the Campaign Against American AI" — details what it calls a multi-year influence operation backed by China targeting U.S. AI data centers and programs.

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June 04, 2026, 11:13 AM
Skins2881
It's all about data/AI supremacy. This is the new space race + industrial revolution. You can side with US supremacy or allow China to win. Patriotism should win over hatred of ugly buildings.

Next time you come across an X, reddit, or Facebook post with an anti-AI message, please do that Google reverse image search and see if you really like, what you're liking.

I'm unable to upload pictures to this site any longer, but reverse image this links:

https://www.facebook.com/61553...tid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

https://x.com/DanRShafer/status/2061466053268373641

https://x.com/DJMM32Mcclain/st.../2056898235038302655

There's hundreds of them, all identical, but slightly modified to each state. It's being done by someone for some reason. Organic pushback would not create identical AI BS. If I could post pics I would, just do that reverse image search on these or ones you come across.



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Sic Semper Tyrannis
June 04, 2026, 11:37 AM
egregore
quote:
You can side with US supremacy or allow China to win.


All of human history has been entities of one kind or another seeking supremacy or dominance over others. Better US than them.
June 04, 2026, 01:40 PM
Mutiny
Data centers have changed a ton in the past decade or so. From about 1994-2010 I personally was involved in the location and engineering design of almost every or perhaps every data center on the East coast. Many were in Northern Virginia. Most of my clients in the 90’s were either .gov or companies like AOL and Worldcomm. Those data centers were mostly large buildings filled with server racks, batteries and generators with armored fiber banks coming in and out. Most people probably didn’t realize it, but they were everywhere even back then, sometimes even defunct big box stores in strip malls were converted to data centers. The data centers back then could be cooled mostly by large high efficiency air conditioning and minimal closed circuit liquid cooling for the chips.
I’ve been out of the data center game for 10-15 years now, and don’t follow the trends very closely, but I know today’s data centers need much higher cooling capabilities and all chips seemingly need liquid evaporative cooling as well as significantly higher power consumption involved.

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June 04, 2026, 04:00 PM
Patriot
Good gravy, lawn signs popping up like crazy here.

Dem data centers are the debil!


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June 04, 2026, 05:34 PM
FenderBender
quote:
Originally posted by Mutiny:
Data centers have changed a ton in the past decade or so. From about 1994-2010 I personally was involved in the location and engineering design of almost every or perhaps every data center on the East coast. Many were in Northern Virginia. Most of my clients in the 90’s were either .gov or companies like AOL and Worlcomm. Those data centers were mostly large buildings filled with server racks, batteries and generators with armored fiber banks coming in and out. Most people probably didn’t realize it, but they were everywhere even back then, sometimes even defunct big box stores in strip malls were converted to data centers. The data centers back then could be cooled mostly by large high efficiency air conditioning and minimal closed circuit liquid cooling for the chips.
I’ve been out of the data center game for 10-15 years now, and don’t follow the trends very closely, but I know today’s data centers need much higher cooling capabilities and all chips seemingly need liquid evaporative cooling as well as significantly higher power consumption involved.


Rob Roy changed the entire design for thermal management with Switch.


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June 04, 2026, 06:24 PM
old rugged cross
Call me a skeptic.



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